Diablo® III

MF + High DPS Glass Cannon Wizard

Same here my build runs great on any pacs...but the reflect is a pain:( and geting a good woapon +life on hit is only if i get it for myself witch is kinde of wining to lotery with i didnt lol.
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Arcane orb is what hurts most with reflects in normal cases.
I'm running the same build as the OP, just with Blur and Astral Presence instead of GW and CM.
With 70k dmg, 30k HP, 900-ish all res, 3.7k armor, all buffed with prismatic and enchantress.
By the way, what's the point in using critical mass with arcane orb to trigger it only?
As you have that high damage, why not use e.g. Electrocute?


Arcane orb does not hurt that much if you are kiting as you can then normally separate out the packs. I need to kite reflect dmg mobs as I have no resists. Also GW is good because I can keep archon going for a long while and without GW my energy armor may fall off (especially when I am not paying attention) so that helps.

I hate swapping of any kind :). I have one set of gear and run with that set of gear so I don't have an alternative set.
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07/08/2012 12:58Posted by PhoenixScar
Dr. Jam how much MF and dps do you have?


Here is my profile: https://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DrJam-1189/hero/5161723

Got over 55k dps buffed today (new shoes and a new ring, does not seem to show yet).

Today I was happy archoning my way through A3 solo until I hit a pack of reflect damage, shielding Phase Beasts down in the Tower of the Cursed. Tried to separate them and dps one down quick in a face to face fight but they would always put on shield after losing half HP and then others came from half across map... Could not get them off my back to skip them, always ran into more phasebeasts and soul lashers. There was nowhere to "park" them. After going from full repair to red, I gave up. I am very sure I would have beaten them with arcane orb (was using disintegrate) and illusionist. Oh well, did not want to reset my NV, so I just quit.

Anyway, add me and we can group up when the time is right :o).

Oh and - nice gloves. Let me know when you upgrade, might be interested in buying ;o).
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Hi fellow Wizards, here is another old gamer. Compared to OP I am still a boy only 35 years old.

I have also come to same result for my wizard that this MF + "semi" glass cannon is way to go. (I do have some AR so that I won't need hp so much and it's easy to regen)

Here is my wizard: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Retsnam-2458/hero/6522093

I have much better helm and amulet in my stash that would boost my dps greatly but I have noticed that MF actually works (I farmed a lot with 0%). Amulet + helm is where you get it easy. I just reasently started to change my gear to more MF and by now I am at ~150%+75%+10% still looking to replace some items with MF gear. I don't want to lose too much dps so it takes some time to find improvements at fair price.

Lots of you guys are using archon. I haven't use it too much so far. So I guess I need to give it a try today. Maybe it'll get even more easier and I get bored
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07/08/2012 22:25Posted by DrJam
Dr. Jam how much MF and dps do you have?

Here is my profile: https://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/DrJam-1189/hero/5161723


Your profile shows a total of 27 AP on crit and you still keep Astral Presence as passive.
What's the point, ain't the AP on crit enough to keep spamming arcane orbs?
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Yeah I don't use AP as long as I use tap the source and I just have 10 AP per crit. But AO does not proc CM as much as one would hope, I think it is a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 chance per crit, don't remember the exact number. If I didn't use tap the source then I would need AP

Dr. Jam may have just been playing with his build when the snapshot was taken, right now the profiles are taken once every 24 hours.
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07/08/2012 22:25Posted by DrJam
Oh and - nice gloves. Let me know when you upgrade, might be interested in buying ;o).


Yeah I was surprised when no-one bid against me for these gloves. I put up my earlier pair earlier today that has
70 int
6 AS
30 Crit Dmg
8.5 Crit Chance
17 MF

The buyout is 15 million. Don't want to turn this into a WTS thread though :)
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08/08/2012 10:14Posted by Retsnam
Hi fellow Wizards, here is another old gamer. Compared to OP I am still a boy only 35 years old.


Yeah your a kid :P

08/08/2012 10:14Posted by Retsnam
Lots of you guys are using archon. I haven't use it too much so far. So I guess I need to give it a try today. Maybe it'll get even more easier and I get bored


Yeah with lower dps it helps to burn down some adds, and is in general fantastic for quickly going through trash. At my dps levels I can take entire packs easily provided they don't have shielding and extra health and even then depending on the mob one archon burst is enough.

Keep Level 2 with archon is so much fun.

As I keep coming back to, Reflect DMG makes this grown man cry.


I have much better helm and amulet in my stash that would boost my dps greatly but I have noticed that MF actually works (I farmed a lot with 0%).


Yeah as I keep coming back to MF works and having a lot of it helps. With 5 NV stack my MF is now 312 with no gear swapping. Yesterday I got 2 more crappy legendaries one from an elite pack and one from trash.
Edited by PhoenixScar#1449 on 08/08/2012 13:46 BST
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Your profile shows a total of 27 AP on crit and you still keep Astral Presence as passive. What's the point, ain't the AP on crit enough to keep spamming arcane orbs?


Good one, was wondering that myself. With AO (btw CM multiplier is 0.33 for Tap the Source), the extra AP practically meant more dps, cause of 2-3 extra orbs. With disintegrate, it does not make much sense. I think I will try illusionist instead and change archon rune to teleport...

The buyout is 15 million. Don't want to turn this into a WTS thread though :)
Damn, too bad I won't be able to hit AH today. I will run it through dps calculator later for sure.

Have you guys tried using disintegrate? I think it is by far the most powerful dps ability for overgeared content, second to archon only. Or are you permanently in archon due to CM and high crit?
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08/08/2012 17:08Posted by DrJam
The buyout is 15 million. Don't want to turn this into a WTS thread though :)


It already sold a little while after I mentioned it was on the AH. I should probably talk more about my older gear that is on the AH in this thread :P

08/08/2012 17:08Posted by DrJam
Have you guys tried using disintegrate? I think it is by far the most powerful dps ability for overgeared content, second to archon only. Or are you permanently in archon due to CM and high crit?


No only place I can stay perm in archon is Keep level 2 if things go well. I have used SP - Piercing Orb, Electrocute- Forked Lighting, Disintegrate - Volatility, and My personal favourite alternative which is Ray of Frost- Cold Blood. But I still prefer Arcane Orb the most, cause when I am not in archon form, kiting is the norm and it is easiest to do for me with AO. Might just be habit though.

When I do ACT 1 runs for the variety I now use disintegrate. In Act 1 it feels exactly like archon.
Edited by PhoenixScar#1449 on 08/08/2012 17:59 BST
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08/08/2012 17:57Posted by PhoenixScar
It already sold a little while after I mentioned it was on the AH. I should probably talk more about my older gear that is on the AH in this thread :P


Nevermind that, put them into DPS calculator and only 800 dps above my current ones. Good they sold so quickly! 15m looked like a bargain.

08/08/2012 10:14Posted by Retsnam
Hi fellow Wizards, here is another old gamer. Compared to OP I am still a boy only 35 years old.


Hello there! If 35 makes you a boy, what does being 27 make me?

08/08/2012 10:14Posted by Retsnam
I have also come to same result for my wizard that this MF + "semi" glass cannon is way to go. (I do have some AR so that I won't need hp so much and it's easy to regen)


I agree with having lower HP and higher resist is better than just stacking HP, especially on wizard. Probably has to do something with EHP, which I have not bothered to understand fully yet. It sure makes all healing more effective, that is why I am trying (and failing) to stay below 20k hp at the moment.

08/08/2012 10:14Posted by Retsnam
I have much better helm and amulet in my stash that would boost my dps greatly but I have noticed that MF actually works (I farmed a lot with 0%). Amulet + helm is where you get it easy. I just reasently started to change my gear to more MF and by now I am at ~150%+75%+10% still looking to replace some items with MF gear. I don't want to lose too much dps so it takes some time to find improvements at fair price.


I think the amulet of yours should be easy to replace. I might still have my old amulet lying around somewhere that had 107 Int, 33 MF, 200ish hp/s regen, 7 % crit chance, 90 dex and some minor stat. Would part with for cheap.

08/08/2012 10:14Posted by Retsnam
Lots of you guys are using archon. I haven't use it too much so far. So I guess I need to give it a try today. Maybe it'll get even more easier and I get bored


Archon boring? Naaa... Even though this is a matter of personal preference, I find melting a full screen of demons within a few seconds quite entertaining. That's why I am fond of disintegrate too.. feels almost like archon and procs CM rather well, so I can archon again soon.
Edited by DrJam#1189 on 08/08/2012 20:45 BST
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Hi fellow Wizards, here is another old gamer. Compared to OP I am still a boy only 35 years old.

I have also come to same result for my wizard that this MF + "semi" glass cannon is way to go. (I do have some AR so that I won't need hp so much and it's easy to regen)

Here is my wizard: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Retsnam-2458/hero/6522093

I have much better helm and amulet in my stash that would boost my dps greatly but I have noticed that MF actually works (I farmed a lot with 0%). Amulet + helm is where you get it easy. I just reasently started to change my gear to more MF and by now I am at ~150%+75%+10% still looking to replace some items with MF gear. I don't want to lose too much dps so it takes some time to find improvements at fair price.

Lots of you guys are using archon. I haven't use it too much so far. So I guess I need to give it a try today. Maybe it'll get even more easier and I get bored


Hi i'm als thinking about semi-cannon MF wizard but i was wondering can you handle act 3 efficiently with that build? How many times you die for example?
Edited by toshi#2319 on 11/08/2012 14:31 BST
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how do you get 1mil on items daily O.O
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11/08/2012 14:31Posted by toshi
Hi i'm als thinking about semi-cannon MF wizard but i was wondering can you handle act 3 efficiently with that build? How many times you die for example?


Define efficiently, I can clear most trash in a blink of an eye with 95K dps and I do die often to some packs but almost nothing prevents me from moving on. I never ever lose money on a run, have not lost money in ACT 3 since I hit 65K dps, but was not running archon then, and had more defensive skills. As I mentioned in the post Reflect DMG hurts me the most.

11/08/2012 15:24Posted by WinterDevils
how do you get 1mil on items daily O.O

Understand 1 million is a bare minimum, I make much more than that normally, through drops and selling my old gear. MF not only affects the number of rares/legendaries that you get but also the quality of the rares in terms of affixes. So longer runs yield quite a few good items that sell from anywhere from 10K, to 20-30 million. I have never got an absolute uber drop of 50 million or more, but I get so many good drops that I don't care. Since I wrote this topic I have made over 20 million in sales and gotten 3 more legendaries and a couple of more BS plans. The only thing that does not drop for me are Jeweler plans of which only 1 has ever dropped. :(
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Hi i'm als thinking about semi-cannon MF wizard but i was wondering can you handle act 3 efficiently with that build? How many times you die for example?


Define efficiently, I can clear most trash in a blink of an eye with 95K dps and I do die often to some packs but almost nothing prevents me from moving on. I never ever lose money on a run, have not lost money in ACT 3 since I hit 65K dps, but was not running archon then, and had more defensive skills. As I mentioned in the post Reflect DMG hurts me the most.


I was referring to the semi-glass cannon build. But glad to see using glass cannon build and still make profit at each run.

Now i cannot decide whether go with full glass cannon forget all res armor but hit 80k dps or build semi-glass and get some res ~500-600 maybe and some armor but 50k dps.

It's expensive to find int+vit+all res and on top of that some MF.
Edited by toshi#2319 on 11/08/2012 20:03 BST
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I was referring to the semi-glass cannon build. But glad to see using glass cannon build and still make profit at each run.

Now i cannot decide whether go with full glass cannon forget all res armor but hit 80k dps or build semi-glass and get some res ~500-600 maybe and some armor but 50k dps.

It's expensive to find int+vit+all res and on top of that some MF.


With archon I started at around 75k DPS but died a lot more then. Strategy was to burn down 1 or 2 of the elites in a pack and then kite around with Arcane Hydra and Temporal Flux. I loved that build with illusionist. I still think illusionist with decent HP is one of the best passives that mages have, though I don't use it any more since my build is centered around remaining in archon form as much as possible now.

With 500-600 res your survivability will be better no question, but at 50K dps I woudn't recommend using archon. My personal opinion when I had lower dps was that archon was not worth it, it shines with higher dps.

As for the gear yeah you will have to make/spend a fortune to get gear that includes int+vit+all res+mf. You may be able to find some gear that has int + all res + mF and no vit cheap though. And get a couple of pieces of gear with high vit.
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11/08/2012 19:12Posted by PhoenixScar
The only thing that does not drop for me are Jeweler plans of which only 1 has ever dropped. :(


I really need to write more posts, seems like it is good luck for me. I just got the recipe for a radiant star emerald !
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Phoenix u are my Idol ! Love your gear and general build/aproach ! Would love if maybe u have some time ingame or out to give me a few pointers. Reaching around 200MF with INT let alone some other sweet stat ( CC/AR/VIT) is really expensive though. What to do ? I farm act1 (bc i'm comfy with it) and do act 2 goblin runs but still no luck. only have about 7 mil. What should i get first ?
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MF glass cannon here too.

Using more legendaries here, and their low durability is a pain.
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farming act 3 without at least 350 all resist is a bad idea and not worth it because you will die and run all over the map which is huge waste of time. you will get more high rares per hour in act 2.

also archon in act 3 = fail:
vortex into firechains/molten/arcane? gg
teleporter phasebeasts? gg
reflect without loh/lifesteal? gg
immune minions? gg

if you want to farm efficiently i recommend to focus on all resist+crit chance+mf. high int wont give you anything really...
Edited by WatchMeBlink#2555 on 13/08/2012 02:34 BST
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