Diablo® III

Heya fellow monks.

Anyway I wanted to make this thread for all people that are struggling to get some gear improvements and have atleast 50m to spend, cause I have been in that position few days ago..

Why budget monk in title? Well as I geared my monk I wanted to avoid ALL stats that are ultra expensive on AH (LoH / Life steal / crit dmg + socket on same weapon etc) and I wanted to make a beast monk for under 50m gold with 100k DPS and I managed to do just that..

I had 53 mil gold (sold 2* wiz offhand and barb helm,all rares) and I wanted to boost my DPS and clear time in Act 3 but at the time I didnt see any improvement that could boost my DPS from 55k unbuffed to 78k unbuffed (now). But than I took some time and searched through AH and I found some interesting cheap gear that got me where I am now..

So first I will tell you price of my gear / drops :

Head + Main Hand + Amulet + Bracers + Hands + Rings = drop (I would say those are all 65m)

BUDGET PART:
Legs = 28m
Offhand = 7m ( very important later on)
Chest + Boots + Belt + Shoulders = 10m

= Alltogether 65m drops + 45m AH (110m gold)

Now I know alot of you don't have even 50m gold, but you just need 1 lucky run to get 1 set item / legendary so you can sell it on AH and re-gear you monk for 50-70m depends on your gear that you have..

1) Anyway try to avoid 900+ offhands with double crit dmg since those are 30+ m (cause you rly WANT 850+ dps ECHOING FURY with socket and high dex and 0.23+ attack/sec atleast wich will cost you around 7-10m)

2) Drop resistance to 500 alltogether ( u rly don't need more)

3) Drop HP to 30k and buff your dex to atleast 2100 (2 innas will help in that)

4) Get 1 item with PICKUP RADIUS (this stat is A MUST!!! ) so you can get heals from health globes

5) Get 21-24% movement speed on gear (Innas pants / boots or Innas pants / tyriels might - my suggestion) and take 10% speed from passive

6) Have atleast 500 life per second (so you can regen HP while walking over maps) + if you dont feel confident with just that and helth globes take mantra of healing with boon of inspiration for more life per second and LOH)

7) Enjoy farming act 3 in 1h with 0 LOH / 0 life steal for max 100m while only dieing 1-3 times (this includes picking up all yellows and killing every single mob in act 3 except "Bridge to Korsikk" atleast for me)

Hopefully I helped someone to get rid of LOH / life steal and achieve 100k+ DPS with less than 100m (most of the ppl that have 100k DPS gear payed 200+m for it no doubt)
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My stats (with enchantress):
28k HP
6800 armor
500 All resist
2280 dex
77.700 unbuffed DPS
110.800 dps all the time - mantra + blazing wrath
195.000 dps sweeping winds (230.000 dps after I activate mantra) - blazing wrath + faith in the light

as i had seen the title i was impressed and highly interested, because i am quite firm on building monks on 50m budget and to get +100dps with 50m total might be possible, but would be require intense snipescouting for around 1 week.
but you just pumped additional 50m into a +50k dps monk. (your unbuffed dps now is 75 btw, enchantress is somewhat of a walking buff).

cheapest inna helm atm (no matter the stats): 15m+ (cheapest with adding vit and fireresist 30m {no value entered on vit/FR})
cheapest similar amulet (+130 dex, +8cc, +45cd, no resist): 30m
cheapest similar gloves (+100dex, +7cc, +30cd, +4IAS): 9m
cheapest skysplitter with socket +950 dps: 8m (cheapest +1k dps 15m)
cheapest strongarms +150dex and vitroll (30ish): 2,9m

i think your calculation is off there. =)

1) ye, echoing fury +0.2X attacks is very hard to outperform, an axe with 211 dex, socket and 523-1054 dmg (for less than 5m atm on AH) is just 1k unbuffed dps less than your echo fury.

2) gl with that on playerX in 105

3) see 2)

4) TOTALLY agree

5) hell ye, once you get that you will never wanna go back

6) life per second is totally underrated, good advice, get it when you can.

7) ye, that "max 100m" part might not really apply here, at least not on a short pricecheck on your profile

nonetheless, great stuff =)

While I respect the intent of this thread Im tending to disagree with some aspects of it. You're suggesting people push for 100k dps at the cost of resists and LOH/lifesteal.

Will people who follow your advice be able to play the higher difficulties post patch 1.05. Of course it's different if they don't want to.

But if they do will they need to spend another 50m to regear?

I would advise people to build a more balanced monk who can handle all content. 50k plus DPS esp if that includes a WKL of more than 20% lightning skills dmg is more than enough DPS. I still think resists should be aimed around 700 and LOH around 700 as well. There was a time when inferno wasn't the faceroll it is now and those times may well be coming back esp with the STI and resolve nerfs.

@gReMLin

Hey again buddy ;) I guess you are right for my gear that dropped (tho before it wasnt worth 100m for sure :/ ), I didn't really check it but I assumed its not that expensive :)

As for resists/hp/armor I do agree that playerx will be much harder and you won't be able to play it like this - but I aim that players that still struggle in act 3 or that don't have good efficient clear time in act 3 : ) So after 1.0.5. they will be able to buy this gear for less than 80m I guess (since new better items will arrive) and therefore they will be able to maximize their efficiency in act 3 "normal inferno mod"...

As for playerx or harder inferno mod I do have offhand (dropped few days ago) with massive LOH / life steal / vita and I will get mass survivability after I sacrifice 8k dps, wich wont be a big deal..

And as we both agree,31-34% speed and echoing fury (budget but imba weapon) is something every monk really wants ; )

@Soujiro

Well ye there is a problem ofc :) In "higher difficulty" this may not work maybe, but you won't need to regear.Only thing u will need to maintain survivability is either amulet with huge LOH or offhand with very good LOH and life steal,but than again u will progress slowly and therefore you can remove movement speed on passive and put also some defensive passive skill..

But IMO I think post patch, it will be better to farm "normal inferno act 3" since it will receive nerf and I guess you will be able to do full act 3 run with this gear in 50 mins or so and u can still get some awesome items,while new mode will be more focused on ppl that already have 150k dps unbuffed with great survivability (since they will probably farm new difficulty without any problems,and they will maintain their farming speed :) ) But that is a different story since those ppl invested atleast 200+m in gold or they used RMAH

My goal was to point few things out (atleast for act 3 inferno "normal mod" now and post patch):

1) movement speed + dps >> survivability
2) u can rly only rely on health globes (ditch LOH / Lifesteal for "normal" inferno mod)
3) echoing fury is currently BEST BUY weapon that will boost your dps/spirit regen
4) u can rly get 110+k selfbuff for under 60m (assuming you have atleast few items that are worth 50m)

;)

I don't quite understand people obsession with DPS increase... You simply need enough DPS to kill mobs quickly. Have more DPS and it would not increase your farming speed. With my current DPS, no elite on A3 lives longer than 15 seconds, and most go down in just few seconds. On simple mobs I often avoid using either sweeping wind or MoC aura because when I have them both they die too damn fast (one hit on the mob and they are dead) and I don't manage even to recover my spirit. Even without MoC aura most simple mobs are dying instantly and require only one-two hits.
I can easily put my DPS at 120k unbuffed (put emeralds in weapons, take one ring from my DH and witching belt without resistances from my chest), but I simply don't see any reason for increasing my dps right now. I find that being able to jump in the middle of big pack and immediately drag them all in the second pack... collecting 3-4 elites killing them all at once gives huge bonus on experience.
I did actually tried to do that (increase DPS to 120k+ unbuffed) and found that I didn't gain any farming speed compared to my current setup... That is A3 in 1h for me is when I go slowly and pick up all the gold drops on the way....

One note about my DPS: it appears that FireWalkers boots are much under-appreciated when it concerns to DPS boost they are giving. DPS increase from them isn't shown on the char and only works on melee (the ground stops burning too fast after you run from it, so they useless for kiting). It is affected by Dexterity (on Monks) and all % increase from dexterity increases tick damage from the boots. They add AoE damage to all mobs around in mellee range and do 3 ticks per second. With my current Dexterity and MoC aura active ticks are from 4.9k to 5.6k. For the first 3 seconds after applying MoC aura, ticks are to 6k+. After I actually found out what FireWalkers give in "hidden" DPS, I sold my Natalya boots and don't even think of changing them to anything else (you can't get 14+K DPS increase from any of the boots, not even from two pieces of Natalya give you that much).

But I'm already at the point that the mobs and elites on A3 inferno are dying too fast and any DPS increase is quite meaningless for solo farming (just waiting on PlayerX in 105 :)

I agree with you 100% . As I stated before in other posts I dont understand why someone would go to 260k dps unbuffed, since you can get the job done with 120k unbuffed in same time. But ofc there is a difference btw 80k unbuffed and 120k unbuffed, since with 120k unbffed literary every pack in act 3 dies within 4 secs max, while with 80k thats not the case..

My personal goal is to reach atleast 100k UNBUFFED, maintain my MF on gear and test some other builds (since with 100k unbuffed u can actually afford ourself build diversity)

Btw u have awesome gear and nice paragon level :) But since I cannot afford myself LOH / Lifesteal gear that will yield me atleast 70k unbuffed DPS I must reach for 100k dps without LOH / Life steal so I can melt packs in 4-5 secs

well u dont need any resist or life on hit if u have 170k+ dps unbuffed.

That might be true (didnt test it tho only range mobs could be a problem I guess :) ) but than again u wont be able to play player x since you will need to get some or all of your resist / vita gear back :D

21/09/2012 01:13Posted by MuratÜlkümen

well u dont need any resist or life on hit if u have 170k+ dps unbuffed.

If you want to play glass-cannon - you should have choosen DH or wizard.
... or say hello to A3 bloodmoon shamans elites (or whatever they called - these fat bastards that put a shield on eachother that absorbs 80% of damage and run as hell from you whenever you get close to them) with Shielding, Molten, Plague (or arcane)... Add extra health for even more fun...
For what it worth - I did play with 120k+ DPS unbuffed (easily acheived with my gears). But the funny part is that the kill speed now isn't much different now than what I had on 120k+. Even now I'm killing most of elites in 3-4 seconds and when I had 120k+ dps on char sheet - I was also killing most of elites in 3-4 seconds. However now I can collect several packs together for bigger experience bonus.
Some elites can't be killed in 3-4 seconds even with 300k DPS however.
And best of luck to your glass cannon in infernal machine or playerX in 105....

Btw Nephelem I wanted to ask you, how do you manage to get more exp bonus when you kill more packs together oO ? I don't see where is the difference if you kill lets say 1 pack now and 2. after 1 minute or kill them all in same time ?

nah dude that is too easy, you just need to get that luck to get the right drop, of the right set, with the right resistance, and that luck to get that main hand with almost 500life/sec, than you just need 50mil and is everything so easy.
Well im not one of thes that complain on how hard is etc, im doing fine, but dude dont write !@#$ when you got so much luck, im trying to get the right light rez inna helm, but is not so cheap like you say lol... as long i mtrying to get atleast 2set frmo inna, and 2 set (boots+ring) from hd set.
But realy you got so much luck there lol...

Well its not all in luck :) you actually need to farm a lot to actually get something.. In lets say 100 runs of act 3 I got only 5-6 good drops :)

Anyway what I wanted to point out is how to get best buy items that will actually be beastly upgrades for your monk if you have atleast 50k dps unbuffed (since from that point onwards every upgrade will be atleast 5-10m but on some upgrades u might not get as much DPS as you would like but you would spend 10+m)... Following few easy steps you can get very very good improvements for around 50m (pants,chest,shoulders,belt,boots,offhand).

Most ppl will buy OP offhand for 50m but than they wont upgrade their armor,and all in all they will spend their hardly earned gold on nothing much ; )

belive me you got luck ;) we have like the same time spent farming

i'm a bit like you bobane ≈ 11m elites killed, but still i'm struggling with act3 while facerolling act2.

21/09/2012 16:10Posted by Kachuna

Btw Nephelem I wanted to ask you, how do you manage to get more exp bonus when you kill more packs together oO ? I don't see where is the difference if you kill lets say 1 pack now and 2. after 1 minute or kill them all in same time ?

whenever you kill about 12+ mobs and you get this "massacre" and experience bonus. The more experience you have per mob killed in massacre - the bigger is the bonus (easy to check - go to the start of A3 and kill a lots of mobs with including climbing stormtroppers and check what you get as massacre bonus, and after go to some other part and kill the same amount of mobs in massacre and check that your bonus is much bigger, next kill 12 elites and minions and check that you have the highest experience bonus). Since elites gives biggest massacre bonus and you add 75+31% of bonus experience to that - you will see the point.