Diablo® III

Zombiebears useless as of 1.0.5 ?

I tried to get yesterday on PTR server but i went to sleep before it went on.
Today i saw a Video with a Barbarian how Monsterlvl 10 is.

The Healthpool of monsters is x20 bigger as of now and the damage is increased as well (not x20 but ppl say x2-x4)

Normaly with zombiebears i have to kill the monsters fast in order to get mana back from the corpses. I am sure that to some of u it happened that you went out of mana and at that point we are totaly useless.

Thats my 2 cents, what do you think ?
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Well i never run low on mana, and i have only 1 item with mana-regen on.......i find it difficult to actually die in any act of Inferno , so making the monsters alot more difficult is great for me, = more challange.
I have tried with double and triple elite packs on me and still doable with Bears etc.
I do however play solo which is easy, whatever my follower.

I think the only nerf for the WD i see is the 20% down to 5% bonus from Jungle Fortitude.
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i know its very easy, but when i play in a grp and run out of mana without any mobs around i get pretty useless.
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Wow this is critical informtion Pavel, thank you. I didnt know that about the HP pools. I expected maximum 5x Hp pools. So I believe we should stack more tanky stuff. Bears can be fully spammable when combined with a 2hander. But imo the most important thing here is we have to balance our resistance/life steal+life on hit so carefully, thus we can endure an endless combat. I think we should be okay with an average of these stats ( for bears I am talking ). 1 attack speed, 750ish resist, 50kish hp, 70kish dps.
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the damage is also increased on ML10.
They say its about same as the original Inferno so i guess doubled.
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With my 4 zuni set and thing of the deep with greusome fast and mana from dogs I was doing yesterday ptr at level 10 and I could spam bear non stop.

No problem jou just need the gear
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Which mana from dogs ?
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Probably using Sacrifice with "Pride"-rune.
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but he doesnt have any cooldowns, so every 45 seconds 3 dogs have a 10% chance to drop HG ?

I dont think thats enough for manaregen.

He has about 30 manaregen/sec, i have 22/sec. I really cant see how he can spam bears all the time when there are no mobs around dieing
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Sacrifice with "Pride"-rune gives 294 mana per each dog. He has three dogs, so around +900 mana. The cooldown of Summon Zombie Dogs decreases every time he kills an enemy as well.
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Well nvm. i will test it when PTR comes online and report :)
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everytime when I kil I have 30% on a new dog ( 41 radius+12 from skill ) And also every kil -1sec on cd. Trust me you will see dogs non stop spawning.
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why not just spirit walk with mana regen instead of sac ?
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As of now there is no point playing MP, it would be much faster and more xp doing the standard inferno. So bears will be fine.
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I think the only nerf for the WD i see is the 20% down to 5% bonus from Jungle Fortitude.


It is 20% to 15%, not to 5%. Not too significant, but it will mean people spec out of JF before now.
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Anyone tested bearz on Ptr ??? how much monster power is Ok for decent farm speed ?
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Zombie bears + Blood Ritual + Spiritual Attunement

If you got some gear with +max mana and mana regen this works fine, almost infinite bear spam. If you don't have +max mana gear then you could switch Spiritual Attunement for Vision Quest.

Diablo Monster level 10 - Zombie bears build
http://www.twitch.tv/twelveday/b/333374515
Edited by Usling#2125 on 25/09/2012 10:11 BST
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I tested it today myself

Made 3 Videos with 00 05 and 10 in my Topic
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5435723643?page=1#0

Basically M00 is faceroll, you can kill Elites with Acid Bomb spam

M10, well like you see in the Video it takes forever, i dont have now the best dps because i play a tankdoctor but nevertheless it takes ages to kill them and they also do significantly more damage.
I am sure many can farm it but will have problems with certain kombinations or Monstertypes (Phasebeast,Mages, Soullasher, etc). I dont think farming M10 is effective, only if you want to show off.

I tried as the last one M05 which is perfect for me, i get +125%Mf extra , Killspeed is good allthough some Elites are a little challenging or take longer like Extra Health. I guess i will stick to it since its the best time:MF:kill ratio for me atleast.

I am sure if would play around with Skills maybe M06 would also be valiable to farm for me.

But everyone has to find his own ML which depends on gear,playstyle and Skills used.
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With zunimassa 4pcs bonus I dont even need use Vision quest skill to have decent availability to use bears. There is some better items I need to save money for but even with my set and skills I can farm act III/IV easy with not many deaths.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Smellylion-2121/hero/190718

With Gruesome Feast and Soul harvest I can double my inteligence often to have great dmg and great resists.
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played a little on PTR tonight, could manage M05 ok but a bit slower than normal, M06 i think was too slow to be worth farming for me. Played with M10 too, need some major dps for that, took about 15-20mins to kill 1 elite pack(didn't help it was illusionist), and about the same to kill warden.
Overall the dmg increase from monsters was not too much of an issue, i could still out heal most stuff up to M06, the health increase they get is the biggest problem so i just need to increase my dps more.
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