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27/10/2012 17:25Posted by SarastraszaIt obsoletes the old one.
It obsoletes the old one.
That is just plain stupid and naive, and very arrogant to say when you have gear above 2 billion gold. It misleads entry level players without the experience of what discipline does for you.
As I've said many times before, the "legacy is better" versus the "the new nats is superior" is a stupid and pointless conflict, which neither helps nor informs players who seek either.
Both sets have their pro's and con's. Legacy has an ability which really is amazing, the 2 disc regen is nothing less, and those who claim otherwise either lie or speak against their better judgement. New Nat's (we really need a new name for this, or am I the only one who thinks that lol) approaches discipline by a bulk size you can use from, then having to refreshing it one way or the other.
In terms of stats even good mid-range rolled gear is on par with good low-even new Nat's, so you gain a significant higher dps from new nat's. In terms of cost, high-end rolls Legacy is twice and upwards in cost.
In terms of discipline, new nat's have a +20 discipline bonus, and while discipline is important, you can use various approaches to gain it. Some players, especially those dual wielding, have great experiences using Night Stalker, others use Multishot Supressing Fire, others bulk up using +10 on chest/quiver. Then again some players chose to ignore the 4 set bonus of new nats, using either Andariel or Mempo, and get disc from quiver/chest/SoJ. When it comes to discipline, it is not a straight simple answer, as it comes down to your dps, what MP level you want to play on, how you play to begin with and how you prefer to play, etc, etc.
In terms of dps, it is my experience that legacy (I have both sets), both medium-rolled Legacy vs new nat's, as high-end rolled, is 20-25% lower in dps (in average), and that the things that really boost your dps isn't so much the set, as it is mainly weapon, then quiver/ring/gloves/bracers....the kitchen sink.
There is no straight answer to which set is best. It depends on many things. Only two things are certain: Low end items of either set really won't help anyone and are cheap, high end-roll items of both sets can help anyone but are very very expensive.
Spend a few millions of a medium set new nats and find your approach to how you use discipline and how you like to play DH.
the fact remains, if you have ~60 disc then you can permanently gloom with nothing but prep, and "new nats" does have a name, Solace, "legacy" has one too, Wrath, why not use those!
I would say Wrath has the edge in the low-mid budget, with rares winning the bottom end and Solace being the clear, no questions asked (except mempo perhaps) winner in the high-high end.
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