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4h Demon Invasions Experience Hotfix Updated 20/08: As many of you have already noticed - this hotfix has been pushed live. Thanks for all of your feedback, and please let us know if you encounter any issues! —————————— During the past few days, we were able to investigate and identify that there were a few issues with the way XP rewards were being handed out during the Demon Invasions. We’re working on a hotfix that will correct the following issues: Fixed a bug that could reduce the amount of XP a player received when more than 6 players were attacking it. Fixed a bug that could reduce the amount of XP a player received from creatures that scale with the number of attackers. Once these fixes are live, please let us know how things feel. Again, our intention is for Demon Invasions to feel lucrative as long as players are actively participating in the event, and we believe that, once the correct amount of XP is being rewarded for killing creatures, that will once again be the case.Bradanvar64 4h
9h Post if you want to make some in-game friends My original thread reached its posting limit. Therefore I'm redoing it. Firstly, please, when posting your info, press the "REQUEST STICKY" button towards the top right side of the page. If it gets enough hits, it will then be considered by the moderators to be pinned to the front page as a sticky. Generally, when a thread moves off the 1st page, it is harder for other people to notice it. So by pressing that button you are being courteous to others (maybe even absolute beginners to WoW) who may wish to use this thread at a later date than today to try and find in-game friends themselves. Thank-you. Let's face it, we all need friends in-game, whether it is to try for mutual achievements, valor cap HC's, LFR, PVP etc, or to ask someone if they can lend a hand with a problem, or even just to say hello to someone and chat once in a while. So if you'd like to make new friends, simply post in the same format as below. (Note, DON'T list which sex you are as it could lead to unwanted attention, likewise, DON'T give out your email address). About me: Age: 30+ Personality: Laid back and mature Side: Horde only Chars: Rogue: (DPS) Spec: Combat only (I do have an Alliance rogue as well, but its sole purpose doesn’t involve gameplay) Playing time: (at the moment) Mon: 12.30pm – 4.30 pm, Tue 12.30 pm – 7 pm, Wed and Thu 12.30pm – 4.30 pm, Fri 12.30 pm – 7 pm, Sat and Sun, most of the day. I do play in the evenings Mon-Fri too, but I simply never know just how much Russian-English translation work I need to do until I receive it, so evening playing time is very erratic. Up for: Helping you out if required and it's in my character's ability to do so, HC’s for cap, LFR, ach’s (inc Raids (new and old), HC and PVP) etc. Other interests: Many. Battletag: LadySylvanas#2676 (To add a battletag and request being friends with a person, either A: In the Battlenet client, left click on the blue person icon at the top right, it will then open up a sub column. In the top left, click on 'add friend', it will then prompt you to type (or paste in) the battletag of the person you want to be friend's with. Then click on 'send request' at the bottom left. B: In-game, left click on the yellow 'social' icon towards the bottom left of your screen. It will bring up a sub screen. Enter (or paste in) the battletag and press 'add friend'.Lswindrunner462 9h
15h Cross-Realm Functionality on RP Realms Patch 7.0 included some server-side changes to the way our cross-realm and sharding technologies work. While these changes were made to improve system and server performance, they inadvertently affected Role Playing realms and communities in a way we did not intend. We recognize the issue this has caused for the role playing community, and have been hard at work on some improvements to our tech that will allow us to disable it entirely in certain areas on RP servers. In those designated areas, players on RP realms will not be automatically mixed with players from other realms, nor will they be split into multiple “shards”. In other words, if you’re on an RP server, you won’t have trouble finding other people from your realm in these areas, and shouldn’t see very many (if any) players from other realms. Additionally, it’s worth clarifying that our previous rules which prevented RP realms from being automatically CRZ’ed with non-RP realms have not changed, even outside of these designated areas. However, please be aware that our party-based cross-realm tech is still in place, so if someone from another realm groups up with someone on your realm, you might see them. We’re currently applying these changes to Stormwind and Orgrimmar, and North American realms should be starting to see their effects. Realms in other regions will pick the changes up with their next restarts. Once we’ve had some time to see how these changes are working out in action, we’ll begin applying them to other common social hubs (such as other capital cities, Elwynn Forest, etc.), with the goal to eventually roll this out to the vast majority of the game world. The only exceptions will be a few very specific locations where sharding is needed to prevent major performance issues, particularly with the upcoming expansion launch. Again, our goal was never to disrupt the role playing community, and we apologize for any distress or confusion this has caused those players.Lore112 15h
2d Legion Pre-Patch - Reset Timer Changes As of the pre-patch for Legion, reset timers for recurring in-game activities such as daily/weekly quests and raid/dungeon lockouts will be updated to a single unified lockout time of 07:00:00 UTC for all European realms. This change will make it more convenient for players, as you will only need to keep track of one reset time. Weekly resets will occur on Wednesdays at this time. Aerythlea111 2d
2d Appearance Unlock Clarifications We’ve been seeing some confusion regarding the restrictions on what appearances a given character can unlock, so we wanted to take a moment to clarify what those restrictions are, and why they are in place. In order to unlock an item’s appearance, it must: Be permanently bound to your character Be equippable by the character that looted it Be of that character’s primary armor type (e.g. Cloth, Leather, Mail, Plate) Additionally, if a piece of gear drops while you are in a raid or dungeon, the item’s appearance will be removed from your collection if you trade it to another party member (in the brief period where that’s allowed). We require items to be bound to your character because we want only one player to unlock an appearance per item. We don’t want to create situations where, say, a group of players passes a BoE item around to everyone, or a raid group has everyone pick up the shiny new sword before the Warrior can have it. The restrictions by class, level, and armor type are in place for several reasons, the biggest of which is to make sure that all classes are on a relatively even playing field when it comes to collecting appearances. We don’t want everyone who’s interested in collecting appearances to feel like they need to roll a Warrior, for example, because they can technically equip all four armor types. If you want to unlock appearances for your Priest, you should always feel like your Priest is the best character to do it on. In the end, our goal with this system is to make it easier to fill out your transmog collection without incentivizing unusual or disruptive play habits. As with any system we add to the game, we’re planning to keep iterating on this as time goes on, so thanks as always for your feedback. Aerythlea112 2d
17 Aug Broken Shore, Demon Hunters, and Invasions, Arrive August 10th! Following Wednesday morning’s maintenance, the Burning Legion’s incursion on Azeroth will get underway—here’s what you can expect: All current level-98 and above characters will receive a quest to go to the Broken Shore, a new Scenario that takes you to the front lines of the Legion's assault. Demon invasions will begin across Azeroth, and all charcters level 10 and higher can participate in the resistance. If you've pre-purchased World of Warcraft: Legion digitally, you can create your Demon Hunter and play through the new class's starting experience in Mardum and the Vault of the Wardens. Once you complete the Demon Hunter starting experience, you'll be sent to your faction's capital city. From there, your Demon Hunter is ready to join your allies and defend Azeroth against the invading Burning Legion. --- We have more for you in our Demon Invasions preview, our Demon Hunter guide, and our Legion digital comic series. We’ll see you at the defense of Azeroth! Aerythlea26 17 Aug
12 Aug Updates from @WarcraftDevs Patch 7.0.3 A new patch means a new bunch of tweets from the World of Warcraft development team! This thread is an archive of @WarcraftDevs tweets regarding patch 7.0.3. For tweets regarding the World of Warcraft: Legion Beta Test, please click here. ---- @WarcraftDevs is an official World of Warcraft Twitter account offering design insight and information directly from the World of Warcraft Development Team. For past updates, please refer to Updates from @WarcraftDevs - Patch 6.2.3/6.2.4. Aerythlea14 12 Aug
08 Aug Gamescom Legion Contest Official Rules NO PURCHASE NECESSARY TO ENTER OR WIN 1. Eligibility. BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT SAS, A FRENCH COMPANY (referred to herein as "SPONSOR") IS THE SPONSOR OF THIS CONTEST. THIS CONTEST IS OPEN ONLY TO RESIDENTS OF AUSTRIA, BELARUS, BELGIUM, BULGARIA, CROATIA, CZECH REPUBLIC, ESTONIA, FINLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, GREECE, HUNGARY, IRELAND, ITALY, LATVIA, LITHUANIA, LUXEMBURG, NORWAY, POLAND, PORTUGAL, ROMANIA, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, SERBIA, SLOVAKIA, SLOVENIA, SOUTH AFRICA, SPAIN, SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, THE UNITED KINGDOM, TURKEY, UKRAINE, WHICH ARE OVER THE AGE OF MAJORITY IN THEIR COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE ON THE DATE REFERENCED BELOW AS THE START DATE FOR THE CONTEST. 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Responsibility. In case of circumstances outside Sponsor’s control, in a fortuitous case, or under exceptional circumstances (fire, flood, natural disaster, malevolent intrusion in the IT system, strike, jeopardize of the financial and technical viability of the competition etc.), even in the case of its own responsibility (subject to its good faith), Sponsor retains the right to cancel the whole or part of the Contest. The present Contest will be cancelled in case circumstances outside Sponsor’s control, without the entrants or winners being able to claim any form of compensation. Sponsor retains the right to exclude entry to the present Contest any individual having cheated, deceived, faked or disturbed the operations stated in this Official Rules.Nidrorian0 08 Aug
13 May Legion Pre-Purchase versus Pre-Order As two options are available for those who’d like to guarantee their copy of World of Warcraft: Legion, we wanted to take a moment to explain the difference between pre-purchasing and pre-ordering the game. Pre-purchasing can be done directly through the Shop or at select retailers, and involves paying for the expansion in full in advance. Pre-purchasing through will automatically grant your account the instant Level 100 Character Boost, as well as early access to the new Demon Hunter hero class before the game’s release. If you pre-purchase through retail, you’ll receive a digital game key (usually in the form of a PIN on receipt) that you can apply to your account to receive the pre-purchase perks. Pre-ordering involves reserving a physical copy of the game at retail, with either a small deposit or no advance payment, which won’t grant you the pre-purchase perks. Collector’s Edition copies of Legion are only available for pre-order, and not pre-purchase. We know that many of you are interested in getting your character boost now and early access to the new Demon Hunter before launch, and that many of you are also planning to get the Collector’s Edition of Legion as well. To help you do both, we’ve set up a process similar to the one for Warlords of Draenor to receive a replacement Legion game key once you upgrade to the Collector’s Edition. Just follow these steps: 1. Pre-purchase a digital version of Legion now and begin using the included character boost immediately. 2. Pick up your Collector’s Edition pre-order once Legion releases. 3. Enter your Collector’s Edition key on your Account Management page. 4. Contact Blizzard Customer Support for a replacement of your original Standard or Digital Deluxe Edition Key. 5. Give the new digital key to a friend! Aerythlea0 13 May
24 Apr 2014 Social Media & Fansites (Updated: 28/07/2016) Blizzard on Social Media You already know that you can find World of Warcraft news right here on the official community site, but make sure you keep an eye on Blizzard's social networking pages. These sites feature World of Warcraft news, visual media, contests, player-created content, career opportunities, customer support, and much more. Check out what we have to offer, interact with your peers in the community, and share the latest updates with your friends. Official Facebook Pages World of Warcraft Blizzard Entertainment Other Blizzard Franchises Diablo Hearthstone Heroes of the Storm Overwatch StarCraft Official Twitter Feeds @Warcraft @WarcraftDevs (Design Insight & Info) @BlizzardCSEU_EN (Customer Support) @BlizzardCareers (Careers, Recruiting & University Relations) @BlizzCon Other Blizzard Franchises @Diablo @PlayHearthstone @BlizzHeroes @PlayOverwatch @StarCraft Official Google+ Pages Other Blizzard Franchises Hearthstone Official YouTube Channels World of Warcraft Customer Support Blizzard Entertainment Other Blizzard Franchises Diablo Hearthstone Heroes of the Storm Overwatch StarCraft World of Warcraft on Reddit /r/WoW (not owned or operated by Blizzard)Vaneras2 24 Apr 2014
3m Followers... Will you miss them? Most of them have a back story except the ones we recruit via Inn and we make a bond with them throughout expansion so will you miss any of them? I for sure will especially my faithful VivianneYamonjin31 3m
4m To the WoW Community - We wanted to let you know that we’ve been closely following the Nostalrius discussion and we appreciate your constructive thoughts and suggestions. Our silence on this subject definitely doesn’t reflect our level of engagement and passion around this topic. We hear you. Many of us across Blizzard and the WoW Dev team have been passionate players ever since classic WoW. In fact, I personally work at Blizzard because of my love for classic WoW. We have been discussing classic servers for years - it’s a topic every BlizzCon - and especially over the past few weeks. From active internal team discussions to after-hours meetings with leadership, this subject has been highly debated. Some of our current thoughts: Why not just let Nostalrius continue the way it was? The honest answer is, failure to protect against intellectual property infringement would damage Blizzard’s rights. This applies to anything that uses WoW’s IP, including unofficial servers. And while we’ve looked into the possibility – there is not a clear legal path to protect Blizzard’s IP and grant an operating license to a pirate server. We explored options for developing classic servers and none could be executed without great difficulty. If we could push a button and all of this would be created, we would. However, there are tremendous operational challenges to integrating classic servers, not to mention the ongoing support of multiple live versions for every aspect of WoW. So what can we do to capture that nostalgia of when WoW first launched? Over the years we have talked about a “pristine realm”. In essence that would turn off all leveling acceleration including character transfers, heirloom gear, character boosts, Recruit-A-Friend bonuses, WoW Token, and access to cross realm zones, as well as group finder. We aren’t sure whether this version of a clean slate is something that would appeal to the community and it’s still an open topic of discussion. One other note - we’ve recently been in contact with some of the folks who operated Nostalrius. They obviously care deeply about the game, and we look forward to more conversations with them in the coming weeks. You, the Blizzard community, are the most dedicated, passionate players out there. We thank you for your constructive thoughts and suggestions. We are listening. J. Allen BrackNethaera3555 4m
6m Is anyone else still stuck on finding a main? The new expansion comes out in two days and I still don't have a main... Is anyone else in my position? I can't decide between Paladin, Hunter and Demon Hunter. I'm looking for something that can easily progress through world content and doesn't have a boring class fantasy.Osmosys5 6m
6m Whats that about? I logged in for the first time since pre patch. The cinematic showed varian and sylvanas being chums, so that put me in a less than expectant mood. Then i sit at the log in screen and...... the music is even worse than pandaland. This music is what greets us after a hard day at work, or a weekend away. two fundamentals, not met - 1) The alliance and Horde are enemies. 2) the music is deep, dark and warlike. I still haven't logged in... I shant bother for another month in all likelihood. You REALLY need to get this right. You have people whining about legacy servers for a reason. Many want the old flavour, which you seem keen to keep diluting. JUST GO BACK TO THE OLD FLAVOUR, WITH NEW FEATURES! Off to a private server i go. Cant stomach it.Valomir7 6m
8m Which class will you play in Legion? I currently play a hunter, but i'm seriously considering to play one of my other toons . Making choices can be tough. Which class will you play and is/will be fun?Bullywully66 8m
16m Create Jack and the Beanstalk raid. So everyone have heard of Jack and the Beanstalk story. How awesome a raid it could it be to climb a giant beanstalk, storm the huge castle, defeat the huge giant and get a pure golden chicken mount, golden goose pet and a toy that summons a mini beanstalk on the the ground where a small mini raid runs up through.Icemeltsfire20 16m
21m I always ask this question... ...because I can never remember: do I have to log off and log back in at launch or can I stay in game and the content will unlock by itself? Thank you.Oblivivm2 21m
22m CHINA Ping-Latency WTF i'm getting 200 stable ping from china without vpn i remember a year ago where without vpn the average ping was 2k o.o what happened?Dyo6 22m
56m I'll be playing Horde for a 1st time in years I personally consider myself a huge Alliance fan. I've played mostly Alliance during the course of Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria, sympathetic with the Alliance losses against the Horde. But now I find myself in a very interesting situation. For a first time in years I will start with playing Horde as a first character and will probably keep it in the long term as a main. Reasons: 1. I love demon hunters, but they look only good on blood elves. Many people will disagree with me on this point. I know many of you will roll a night elf (male) demon hunter just to look like Illidan. However, Illidan is not my favourite lore figure. On the other side, a female blood elf with a rough eye bandage looks sinister :) This is my preferred class for now, especially in the terms of mobility (hunters aspect of the Cheetah is badly nerfed) 2. In Legion it won't matter much if you'll be Alliance or Horde. Out of the five zones on the Broken isles, only Stormheim is different for Ally and Horde. And I already did it for Ally on beta. I'll be in hurry to do it on Horde. Moreover, the towns and cities in Legion are shared between Alliance and Horde. Dalaran. The Class hall. The tauren city in Highmountain. The gilnean city in Val'Sharah. 3. Sylvanas as a Warchief. Isn't that just cool. Lore-wise it will be more interesting to play in a faction led by Sylvanas rather than a faction led by the peacful hippie Anduin Wrynn. Yes, the Horde commited a lot of crimes during Garroshes reign and this was what made me choose Alliance. But the Alliance was led by Varian. And now Anduin... hm... On the other side, Greymane. He's cool 4. Roleplaying opportunities. It is easier to roleplay a night elf demon hunter. On the other side blood elf DH is more challenging and more interesting to roleplay. You need to develop a sound story for your character - why he/she chose to follow Illidan to a point to become one. There are unique storylines that may have affected you. Sunwell's destruction. Garithos. Were you there when they happened? What's your opinion? What about recent events you weren't there - like when Garrosh oppressed the Blood Elves. What about Sylvanas? She leads the Horde- and she was part of your people? So these are my reasons ;)Yongnian18 56m
58m So in the end Mythic dungeon are mandatory i was looking into the new pathfinder achievement for legion and i found out that to complete the suraman part of it you need to do the two mythic only dungeons otherwise it won't unlock. So we have already jumped from totally optional to mandatory in order to unlock flying i wonder if even karazhan in 7.1 will be part of pathfinder. This is an insane way of gating flying, not only the longgrind now even forced to mythic content.Kromdar229 58m
58m Rate the transmog above you! Armory works again, no more silhouettes! Could not find the last part, so starting fresh.Caradin52 58m
1h Rate the transmogrification above you part 8 Continued because the last one reached its limit. :)Snowywhite279 1h
1h Funfact: male BE DH suffer from bone diseases Hi Readers of the necleted european Forums! Warning - Dont read further if you dont criticism and strong language: im making this thread to draw the attention to something that seems to really go down under the hype for legion. We got a new class, and the animation for male bloodelves are ... actually not implemented yet. This topic makes me angry, cause even if it is only an aesthetical flaw, it is ugly and they wont wont fix it, simply cause they can until enough people care. They even dared to implement this !@#$, after promising that exactly this wont happen. In an Interview a Developer of Legion was asked why there would be no other races to choose as demonhunters. His answer was (a pisstake) that they did not want to break the lore and want to work really carefully on the animations and costumization, hence they could not do it for more races. - I could be nidpicking on the fact that bloodelve demonhunters are already lore breaking (I know the Kael Thats explanation, but look for BE-DH in the new ingame videos for example) and if you can train bloodelves - you can also train other races, but for the sake of giving also hordeplayers the chance to play the heroeclass - let's ignore it. - I can also live with the fact that choosing between 6 awfully located Horns on Bloodelves, and about 5 tatoos with about 5 colours are considered rich costumization in blizzards departement. - But what the %^-*ing !@#$ is this: My male demonhunter... 1. wiggling his %^- while running as if his hip is dislocated, He has movement in his booty i tell you. 2. ...also suffers from a distorted spine. I did not know that the lore requires Bloodelves to suffer from scoliosis to become demonhunters. 3. ...runs around with a retarded superman posture wiggling his *!@ and distorted spine after holstering his weapons . Make an own male BE -DH and give it carefull look ingame, if you dont see it on the picture.Armazhka0 1h
1h Dalaran is not Alliance city. Dalaran is neutral city,Kirin Tor proclaimed themselves neutral in the conflict between the Horde and the Alliance Lorewise originally Dalaran belonged to "Alliance of Lordaeron" but most of those people are Forsaken now. (Gameplaywise pre WOTLK it was just a giant purple dome. You could never get into it and you couldn't see inside it.) In theory Jaina ruled Dalaran during MOP but for real she is not in charge. And Sunreavers represent only part of Horde and not whole Horde. Khadgar led an expedition to the alternate Draenor, establishing his mage tower in Zangarra. Jaina ordered Khadgar to not allow the Horde to step foot on Kirin Tor grounds. Despite this warning, Khadgar worked with both the Alliance and the Horde to accomplish his goals on Draenor. Another factor to consider is that many Forsaken and blood elves were formerly citizens and even rulers of Dalaran.Isabellethea14 1h
1h I like the class changes Never has the term 'less is more' been used to such great effect. The class changes did remove a lot from their respective classes and specs but what we gained in the longrun, to me, feels a lot less clunky. I'm not going to beat around the bush here, I'm slow minded, I'm Min Dimwind shouting for his Cart on the Wandering Isle. I'm Dumass in Hillsbrad heading North when I'm told to go Southeast. Hi! HI! HELP! So yes, I still like my Feral Druid, perhaps even more. My Rotation hasn't changed much save for a few skills that are gone but my role of stacking bleed debuffs is maintained and I'm happy. I also have skills I find useful and will use, I hated some of the skills that were purely circumstantial. Less skills but more useful utility. Less is more... Am I wrong? Let me know what you thinkClennam5 1h
1h Why can we not transmog cloth to cloth etc. ...On characters that can equip it, but for whom it is not their primary armour type? For clarity's sake (since people always seem to get their wires crossed with the confusing nature of the new transmog system!) I am *not* talking about transmogging your primary armour type into something else. If, for example, a paladin equips a cloth robe, they cannot transmog it to look like a different cloth robe, even if they have other cloth appearances unlocked on their account -- or even physical cloth items in their bank/void storage. This would mainly be for RP reasons and general fashion. It doesn't seem to make much sense that plate/mail/leather classes can wear these items, but are unable to use the appearances already unlocked on your account for them. In order for Lirena here to use any of the cloth, mail, or leather sets I've unlocked, I have to go and farm them all over again, and equip them manually every time. For something that would only be used in RP or for showing off in cities, it seems like a rather needless limitation. As a roleplayer it's definitely curtailed a lot of possibilities for me.Lirena14 1h
1h Demon hunters. Why only two races? Just as the title says, why only two? Because it fits with the 'fantasy' of the class? I can tell you straight from the off, a lot of Horde characters will stick two fingers up to a class that's locked to only one race on the faction, the 'pretty' race and I can guarantee that a lot of folk on the Alliance will follow suit. I want to play a Worgen demon hunter, or a Tauren, Troll or Orc one, not some done up Elf with horns. We get it, Illidan was one and his disciples were one, but times have changed. Nowadays very few classes are blocked off of racial selections, and to do this just feels backwards. Anyone else feel the same?Zhenren418 1h
2h Personal Loot - Improvement? I have always hated personal loot, and i know i am not the only one. You would go through five bosses, waiting for the one you really needed something from, get loot off the two bosses before and the one after, but not the one you need. Or, you would get nothing at all, get to the boss you wanted something from, and it would roll loot...and then give you the same item it did last time that you already hae three of and were never any good to start with. Or, you got loot off everything, nothing any use, and then nothing off the bosses you actually wanted... Its just -so- bad. I get why its there, it eliminates so many arguements that can come out of masterlooter, but surely theres a better way? So i sat and i wondered, what if personal loot still did what it does (completely random chance of getting something) but instead of actual loot, it dropped a loot token. The token would have an ilvl, and you could then exchange that (through a special vendor manybe found out the front of an instance or something) for an item of loot from a specific boss within that instance. The idea of the token having an ilvl would mean you could only use it against bosses of the same ilvl (so you couldnt get a token off the first boss and roll it for the final boss). The loot would still be random (using the current loot specialisations to give a list of items from that boss's loot table that are applicable) So you wouldnt just be picking the items you want. You would only be able to select a boss to redeem it against once you had defeated that boss (perhaps that week, the basically your raid lock out would dictate who you could redeem loot tokens against). Just wondered what other people thought, i was trying to think of a way to keep the RNG in, but make it a little less chaotic and actually relevant. I was trying to find a way that the system would have more meaning, if this makes it a little too easy to get perfect items (it would improve the chances of you getting the item you really want) then perhaps you could reduce the drop chance a little to counter that. But the loot would still be more worthwhile in my mind, even if a little harder to get the drop.Azastral1 2h
3h LEgion Invasion End Date When do the legion invasions end at at what time?Humanoid2 3h
3h What the actual F? So after a bit of thought, I pre-ordered legion (it is looking sweeet) and boosted up a Human Monk to level 100. I do the pre-patch quest line and everything hyped me up more. Little did I know, apparently if you use a boosted character you are not entitled to the full pre-patch experience as a BIG scenario is left out for you - the entire Broken Shore experience, which even provides you with an ilvl 700 ring, which would go along quite nicely to the unique equipped invasion ring you can't wear 2 off!!! My first thought was of course that something bugged out, I contacted a GM and he confirms that this is by design and everything works as intended. I furthermore ask for the logic behind it, and he himself actually aren't aware of the reasoning, and that he personally thinks it sucks. So yeah, could someone shred some light on this? I really can't think of any logical explanation behind this odd choice to let people who pre-order and boost their character so miss some of the LEGION content they actually PURCHASED ?Joley24 3h
3h Max camera distance reduced (now live) - Update: As of July 20th, this change is now live on EU realms - - Update #2: <outdated, as of Augush 10th this functionality has been hotfixed out of the game> An addon is out that uses the WoW API to re-enable a much more generous level of zoom. It is uncertain whether the developers will allow this functionality to remain, but for the time being it seems like a functional, game-legal workaround that makes no use of third party methods: - Update #3: The devs have now commented on the issue, and are taking steps in the right direction, but there are still no plans to fully revert the change: - Update #4: A new CVAR is in game that allows an extension of the camera distance to 39 yards, higher than the new default maximum, but still only 4-5 yards more than the old default camera allowed. The command is: /console SET cameraDistanceMaxFactor 2.6 You can use addons like Maxcam or FasterCamera to enable this by default. --- There was recently a blue post on the US forums about how the current max camera distance is going to be significantly reduced in Legion via the removal of the console option that allowed it to be increased (which many players have been using for years). You can find the full blue post here: The viewpoint of the devs is that parity is important, and that they prefer how the game looks with a more tightly zoomed camera. I cannot disagree more with this reasoning, as is stems from the "one size fits all" approach that has led to a huge number of WoW's more detrimental design decisions over the years. Everyone likes playing the game in different ways, and the removal of options like this is only going to result in unhappy players. I enjoy having my camera zoomed in all the way when I'm running about town, doing dungeons, or roleplaying, but when I'm dealing with enormous room-sized bosses, gazing out over huge landscapes, or dealing with complex and spread-out raid groups, the increased camera distance is an absolute godsend, making the game much more enjoyable to play. I actually find it horribly uncomfortable when games have enormous enemies that get all up in my camera, and I've always been grateful that WoW has the option to circumvent this with a very generous level of camera zoom. I'd implore the devs to reconsider this change, since it is a huge decrease in quality of life that is only going to result in many players being unhappy and frustrated with the loss of a great feature they've enjoyed for many years now. In a game played by millions of people with diverse tastes, the removal of options and flexibility (especially when it comes to things like the visual look of the game) is rarely ever a good thing. This has notable similarities to the issue Overwatch faced during development when the FoV was initially locked to a very narrow viewpoint, resulting in a lot of players being unhappy with the lack of flexibility in how they viewed the game. The reasoning via the devs was based on the same argument of creating parity between user experiences, but thankfully they saw sense and changed their minds prior to launch, resulting in a lot of very happy players. Screenshots showcasing the change, and some of the issues it creates for both raiding and regular gameplay: And a couple of albums I've been putting together myself to illustrate how poorly some of the game is designed around this new zoom: A look at how the "ideal" level of camera zoom is entirely dependent on the scene at hand: Edit - Really touching post by someone on the US forums who suffers from a host of serious medical issues, scared that this change will take away the refuge WoW gives them by making the game unplayable due to headaches and nausea. These are the people I really feel for, not just those of us who'll be frustrated and annoyed by the camera distance reduction. If I were a developer, making a change that has this kind of an impact on my players would not be something I'd ever consider unless the upsides were tremendous. I can only hope the people at Blizzard read these posts and seriously reconsider whether their ideas are worth it. Edit 2 - It's also worth adding that this change actually reduces parity between player experiences in a much worse way than the console command ever allowed, since the way WoW works means that having a larger monitor effectively increases your field of view similar to how zooming out would. What this means is that the barrier between players who see less of the surrounding area and those who see more is now purely financial, as opposed to being mitigated via a console command. People with very large, or multi-monitor setups will see significantly more of the world around them than those with smaller monitors. You can see the difference illustrated on a basic single-monitor setup here: 3h
4h Class fantasy vs gameplay Hi guys. Would you rather play a class that has the most appealing class fantasy (paladin for me) but not that exciting gameplay, or rather a class that has class fantasy that you don't like (monk) but absolutely awesome gameplay? I'm so stuck on this. I enjoy playing monk so much but I'm really not a massive fan for it's class fantasy. What would you do?Macc13 4h
4h How about Subraces? So after Legion, in future expansion: How about subraces? We have more than enough races with about 13, but a bit lore and appearance versatility would be nice. So Why not bring in some subraces like: Humans: Normal, Vyrkul, Southsee Dwarfs: Ironforge, Wildhammer, Irden, Dark Iron Gnomes: Mecha Gnomes, Lepa Gnomes, Normal Gnomes Dranei: Broken, Normal Nightelf: Kaldorei, Nigthfallen Worgen: ...nothing new Orcs: Dreanor, Normal Green, Fel (red orcs) Tauren: Moose Tauren, normal Tauren, Taunka, Trolls: Darkspeer, Zandalari, Goblins: Those Under Water Gobos, Normal ones Undead: Forsaken, Vanghuls, Dark Elfes Bloodelfes: Highborn, Bloodelfs Would love your feedback (edit some typos)Rondine15 4h
4h Rate Character name above you As the title says: Rate the character name above you. Depending on class / name combo that suits great. Score from 0 (bad) to max 10 (great)Wärmachine256 4h
4h Will demon hunter keep getting nerfed? Just to make everyone aware I am and have been playing demon hunter on the beta servers at 110 for a fair time now, so all of this is based of 110 pvp and from the latest patch. This last patch really hit demon hunters hard the mastery nerf has effected us in the following areas. Our chaos damage is lower so we so less damage base,Chaos blades talent is also been nerfed because it goes by our mastery that took an 10% hit. The class is suppose to be hyper mobile but the mastery nerf again reduced our mobility because our mastery gives us speed. I am concerned that the class that I want to main in legion, the class I have been practising for months now is going to keep getting nerfed for no good reason really. Compare Demon Hunters to rogues who has survive long? Who can self heal more? Who can do more damage? Outlaw damage is insane and it can heal and survive for ages yet these nerfs hit us :(Simeroth12 4h
4h Should you set a maximum foreground FPS ? Hi guys after finally fixing my spike lagg/low fps problem i'm truly enjoying the game again, but i was wondering if you should set a maximum foreground FPS in the WoW system settings ? when in pvp/raiding i usually get around 140-190 fps, when in city's like orgrimmar it's up to 250-300..Niroxidu13 4h
4h fire mage nerfs? and thougts I wrote to a GM today, and was complaining him about the new nerf, they did on fire mage and could not really understand them. He answered very fast with this answer "Greetings Frederik, I hope you are having a fantastic final weekend of WoD:) I've taken a look for you and the big reason fire feels weak right now is dur to the artifact weapons not being in game yet :). As it stands right now fire mages feel weaker " I hope he is right about that. Greetings from me and enjoy your last days of WODGóingrànkone23 4h
5h The REAL reason why World of Warcraft s*cks I used to love WoW....I used to be addicted to Wow...but not any more. The desire to play has all but evaporated and I find myself asking...why? Is it because I'm a bit older now? A bit jaded? Seen everything there is to see? Maybe, but am still getting the urge to play other games and old classics I still love. So what is it? Stripped back... World of Warcraft is really just about gear, bragging rights...playing hours after hours to get that shiny piece of metal to impress your friends and dominate your enemies with. Ofcourse there's a lot more to it, but this is a fundamental part of the game really. Yet they have taken this part of the game away. Pure and simple. Cast your mind back to Vanilla WoW, or even more recent times - you saw this Sword which you craved. If you had it, it would not just be cool, but if you stepped into PvP with it you could decimate people. Not any more. Now you rock into a battleground with this Sword you spent ages dreaming about, and the wooden sword the guy has next to you is just as good. Actually I'm joking, you stopped dreaming about items like this long ago. People who play Pokemon don't complain that a level 100 charizard that someone has worked towards for such a long time can easily beat a lvl 10 caterpie. See my point? The game is gone. At best, it is a transmog game now. That is what I believe the real reason for WoW's decline to be. Even if you were a hardcore pve'er and rarely did pvp...there is always a small part of you that knows that after all your work you used to be able to step into a BG as a player. That does not mean to say I don't want the game to be balanced, but for the top tier! WoTLK was probably the best for this, giving enough balance to bring people in but still keep the desire for more in tact. Now the desire for more is gone, and I honestly tried hard to rekindle it, but sadly can't. Thanks for the game blizzard, but this is no longer World of Warcraft as it once was. It seems so stupid to me that a game about gear, turns all gear the same.Xerés26 5h
5h EU Legion 30th or 31st? As you all know, we EU servers are a day behind NAs patch as our reset day is one day later. For the release of Legion, Blizzard states that it would be released on the 30th. Would this mean for EU servers Legion would be available on the 31st or same day as NA servers which is 30th?Rarchimonde14 5h
5h Duels should reset CD's It has been requestes multiple times and I'm going to request it one more time. HOW many times did you waited for additional 3-5 minutes before you could duel again with your friend or random players in front of Orgrimar or Stormwind? How many times you had to say "w8 3 min cd's". Perhaps Blizzard is afraid this could be abused in some nasty way but if designed well it could be so much fun actually.Murtysh14 5h
5h At what time will Legion start? The Burning Legion is upon us, but what time (CEST) will it start? Will it be as usual, with the reset 09:00 at tuesday 30st? Or 01:00 (00:00 BST)?Kliché16 5h
5h TCG loot Any one know if they'll introduce any more TCG loot drop packs in legion ?Roadrunt10 5h
5h At what point will invasions go away? is it on the 30th? at 00:00 or when Legion officially airs? Some other time? I want to plan out how much time I have left to level up my alts.Hypotenous0 5h
5h Why max gathering professions? Thought I had created a thread already, basically I just want to know why would someone want to max a gathering profession? Before it used to be that you had to have a certain level to be able to gather in certain zones and the higher level the better things you could craft. But now I can pick anything anywhere it seems. Cheers loveBelfia9 5h
5h bug with haste buffs? so during my leveling on the beta down in helheim where u get the stacking buff with haste i noticed that my dots and spells does not get affected by it? the same applies for the frostfire ridge 100% haste buff it proccs but spells are not affected by it im going to guess this is not intended?Pawnd0 5h
6h Just asking I've been wondering this time to time for years. It's a minor thing and maybe its not ''needed'' or anything BUT: Why... Why we cannot see trough windows?Vimpäri2 6h
6h Email from Blizzard. I know that this will be a troll magnet but meh. (Not the race, love you guys). I got an email from Blizzard this morning saying "In light of some recent activity on your World of Warcraft account, we'd like make sure you're aware of the negative impact that buying gold from third-party companies has on the World of Warcraft community, as well as the potential consequences for players who are found to be using such services." But I've not been using them. It's probably because I sold some Pocket Fel Spreaders on the AH which increased my gold a lot since I've been floating under 10k for a ages. But I wanted to get a second opinion on it :)Melchior17 6h
6h Items for Artifact power OK, so I've read that it's useless to stockpile artifact power items because knowledge increased after obtaining those items will not increase their power. But there is a question then - does it mean that it's better not to collect those items until you have a decent artifact knowledge?Sandalf13 6h