PvE trinkets in duels
They don't work in BGs or arenas so can you make their effects not work in duels or world pvp? They're all so overpowered and it's unfair towards those who do not feel like killing dragons. Thanks.
Why is this game so healer dependent
Title is the thread. The question is simple but you know - some people don't like to play healer spec. What are we supposed to do when the enemy team have more of those godlike figures and we have 0? You made them so important that without them you have no other way to heal so what are we supposed to do ?
Rogues are insanely overpowered
..... Just like vanilla days. Too much CC too much damage. !@#$ you blizzard
Experinces of World PvP whilst leveling
World PvP whilst leveling doesn't seem to be much fun. I'd be interested to hear other's experiences since mine have been mostly negative so far and I'm wondering if it's worth persevering. I've just returned to the game after a long break. To me, PvP is the best part of the game (based on bgs and arena). So I decided to start fresh on a PvP server to increase chances of finding guilds and friends who like the same. But leveling has been a nightmare. The three most common scenarios seem to be: 1. Level 100s running around leveling zones senselessly killing lowbies with a single attack. This just wastes my time - it's no fun for me as there is zero counterplay (can't even hide because nameplates are visible). Maybe they find it fun, but that pleasure is comparable to bullying (deriving pleasure from dominance with no chance of reprisal). 2. Getting killed in collateral by random aoe or accidental tab-targetting of level 100s who are farming in the same area. It's like I'm playing as a critter... Surely no fun for either party? 3. Having a good fight against a level appropriate enemy only for a level 100 to swoop in like superman to an amateur boxing match. "I'm helping right?" No. You just ruined an otherwise fun PvP experience. So does it get better? Or is world PvP mostly pointless? It seems to me a lot of this could be resolved by reintroducing dishonourable kills, or by automatically scaling players down to the level of the zone. Wouldn't that just make for a more fun world PvP experience?
LF LEGION WORST PVP CLASS
Hello! My name is Haydan and im looking for the worst Dueling/2s/WPvP on 110 LvL. As an expierenced PvP player im looking for a challenge on the new expansion. as im playing Dueling/2s/wpvp only i would LOVE to know what you guys think is the WORST class for it. i would like to get rekt so bad that i will want to rip my eyes off and eat them. PREFERENCES: -a class that can be rekt so easily and hard like shrek did with this gnome fag in last Shrek video GO HAM GUYS I WANNA CRY!
Russian doping ban for PVP?
yeah, that's right, lets get all Russians banned from BG's... I don't even lose from them that much seeing as I block out both 40 man BG's. when ever I play against them though, all they do is ignore obj and farm GY. I personally think they should be banned, but not all of them, just the ones that are exploiting (pre-made) yea, pre making a 40 man group is exploiting... well of course it is... if it was not exploiting there would be an option to que up as a 40 man group in PVP? I even had this confirmed from a GM, want me to quote the transcript? as is stands, Russians have brought it upon themselves giving them a bad name. I hate them and want this crap exploit removed. 5 man group limits are there for a reason. this reason is for balancing. thanks regards Dappy #bantherussians
The Kings of World PvP
5 years we have ruled the EU for the Alliance in name of the King Destinite,From our first video to our last we will continue to support blizzard entertainment in the latest expansion! http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17612041293 Latest recruitment video done by Destinite Productions LTD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OwYW_JVrVc
Healers, out of curiosity...
What's your favourite healing spec this patch so far? I'm struggling to find a new main for Legion because disc/holy just doesn't cut it for me personally. I've tried druid and shammy and have taken a liking to both, especially the former.
PVE vs PVP gear (Pre patch)
So.. if im correct, Baleful 705 (upgraded) pve gear are curently on live also more powerful in pvp than the 700 pvp gear. Beacause as i understand it, pvp 700 gear dont scale up to 730 anymore. Thus 705 gear gets ur gear overall up. Does it work this way?
pvp gear vendors are missing neck rings trinkets.
is this intended? I decided to try out 3rd spec as a druid, wanted to buy agility rings, neck and trinket for guardian, but I can't. I can buy an agi cape though. also - primal gear vendor does not have neck,rings, tirnkets either, same story with wild gear vendor. I think someone decided this gear has only transmog value, and neck rings trinkets dont tranmog hence they forgot to include them at vendors. so this is weird, and I hope it gets fixed soon.
Sooo, where are those templates?
I entered one BG, and I have 532k HP. I switch my head for a lvl80 one, and my HP goes down to 527k. I go naked and I have 58k HP. So what am I missing?
Honorable Kills Bugged - 1-99 BGs
http://i.imgur.com/AyA3Z1V.jpg This isnt one of those "end of the world bugs" but it still is a "bug" for now. I play very actively in low lvl brackets as a twink. Ever since the pre-patch hit and they merged us twinks back into the leveling bracket i've noticed that as lvl 29 I do not get credit for a kill (honorable kill) that I normally would have been. For example a lvl 20 is grey marked while a 21 is green marked. Meaning the 20 wont reward me honor or a honorable kill when I kill this person. This has resulted that i've had 15 minute battlegrounds where i've had 30+ killing blows with 5-10 honorable kills to my name. I'm a person that favors farming HKs on my twinks. What i'd like to know is if this change is intentional or not. I have a strong memory from back in wrath before they added the 10-14, 15-19 brackets and so on that you would get a honorable kill to your name when killing a lvl 10 in a bg while you being 19.
Marks of Honour
Just a little suggestion / ask but could you possibly add a 'fragment' system to the pvp boxes at the end of matches? It gets a little tiring having to win a match or practically receive nothing rewarding, so I was thinking something along the lines of a Bronze chest gives 1 'fragment' and a silver gives 2, combine 5 or so to make a Mark. Hopefully this will just make it feel like you're constantly progressing instead of hitting walls due to terrible random BG RNG and the ever useful people within (yes sarcasm) :P
why gank level 1's
dont get me wrong i do that too if i see them but why go out of your way to attack a lvl 1-10 area 1. your wasting your time in a zone you shouldn't be in why cross half the world to gank people in a lvl 1 area and gives no honor im no i hate wpvp player but this boggles my mind
Honour System -- Broken
So unless I'm entirely misunderstanding things... you can spend up to an hour in a BG, lose and gain absolute nothing useful for your efforts. Used to be that even if you lost, you'd at least get something towards your goal(a small amount of honour is better than none!). So what gives? I understand the principle of creating a sense of importance and encouraging play-to-win attitudes, but the reality of the matter is that there will always be people that a) simply don't care, b) are just terrible, c) AFK most of the fight or d) bots. There's far too many variables that can't be dismissed as justifiable considerations in this scheme.
Most warlocks = win
So the BGs comes down to who has the most warlocks win. It's so !@#$ing stupid. Nice and balanced game you have here, blizzard. Good luck with the esport dreams.
Welcome to PvP Hell
Yes before you say anything i know its a pre-patch BUT there is no hope in it and it generally sucks. Locks are raid-bosses, rogues can heal and are getting to full life while stealthed, hunters became white lions (war online reference), warriors became the most squishy class atm BY FAR, and the hell continues! I was expecting to ADD things but instead you started removing and you are keep doing classes so simple and boring with so much less spells and i dont even know why you are keep moving to that direction. I really really hope all that mess is only the pre-patch because things will go downhill much faster than WoD did. God, i am starting to miss Ghostcrawler each new expanion more and more! You have nice ideas but you just cant hit the point, i was so hyped for Legion but, god what a let down.. i havent pre-ordered the Legion yet and i am afraid to do it. Please, please fix the god damn classes and the PvP i really wanna enjoy the new expansion and i want to enjoy it with my warrior class something thats not gonna happen at all if you continue this way. Peace.
choose for specific bg, get no rewards after win
seems like if you que for specific bg and you win, you don't get a crate and so no mark of honor, pls change that!
Alot of things have changed....except the russians...
Russians warping in big groups on top of me all of a sudden. Laggy. Out of range while being perfectly in range. Dying from hits while they are not on me. Premades. Kickbot. Yep, some things will never change anymore. Such a shame.
WHY ARE HORDE SO BAD IN EVERY BG?!
9/10 times I get into a random battleground the majority of the team is made up of bots, noobs and people that don't care about winning. The noobs have no clue of what to do in the battleground and then when you tell them what to do they call YOU the noob and completely ignore what you say. The people that don't care about winning go around getting honour kills and tell you to "!@#$ you're 1500" implying that 1500 rating people don't what to do in a random battleground, also they blame you when you lose the battle ground "it's you're fault we lost" "you're bad that's why we lost" IT'S A TEAM GAME FFS IT'S THE TEAMS FAULT NOT ONE PERSON FFS Gtfo out of random battlegrounds if you're like that you're cancer in the community.
..what da FUQ hahahaha .. we bein' trolled right?
Why am I constantly facing premade Russians?
Is there something wrong with my settings? Pretty sure I play on an EU realm
Hack and Slash
Maybe I'm missing something, but PvP at the moment is just Hack N Slash, the total lack of utility means PvP is just mashing a couple of buttons. This teamed with the fact stats are all squished makes classes feel very weak and very slow. I've loved PvP since the day I started playing, but right now I can't bare to play it. Does it improve at lvl 110? I haven't played the beta so all i can judge on is live.
Please Blizzard, you just changed Chaman heals to be more effective in pvp. So nerf a bit locks and especially Affliction one in pvp. I know that's it's prepatch and that it's probably gonna be balanced at lvl 110 but this prepatch gonna last still one month. And for those who loves BG those affli locks are the worst. They have great damage, incredible hp and absorbs and they almost don't have to cast so you can't interrupt them. I don't know if it's possible but can't you nerf them in pvp, at least during prepatch? :s
Alterac valley in Pre-patch. Its beautiful.
Please learn from whats happening atm, blizzard. If you are watching. The guards are so high lvl they can almost 1 shot you. THe boss is insane to take down. THIS...encourages actual PVP ...in a PVP battleground and thats how it is supposed to be. I've been leading in AV, pvp style. Recapping and farming casual, random groups several times. And because the focus is not on the god damn PVE anymore... people listen. People enjoy the PVP. people love to farm, to dominate the scoreboard. The SEE ONLY RED:.. on the top. Its fantastic to see True Pvp in alterac valley again. And all this because the PVE element is made difficult and annoying. WHICH IS FANTASTIC. Because were supposed to PVP in battlegrounds blizzard. and Many of us really want to again. Please learn from whats happening in AV atm. The PVP in AV:..in pre-patch. Is some of the best PVP I've ever had in a very very long time in casual mode AV. People want to pvp. To work together. To fight for the Horde with friends and badasses alike so we turn from Casual, into a bloody premade from 1 second to the other, simply because.... of PVP spirit...and most importantly...INCENTIVE:..to pvp over the bloody Race to Win PVE that has destroyed AV entirely. Please. give us back old AV or make the guards higher lvl and hitting a helluva lot harder alike Ashran is atm. WE NEED IT. AV is awful otherwise and its sad because its the best damn Battleground in this entire game for those of us who remember its glory days. Please read this, blizzard. and please do something about this, Holinka. We love PVP, so let us PVP. Enough of this PVE already.
set bonus work again?
I noticed today that my pve set bonuses and probably the pvp ones as well work again in battleground. As my hunter i had my instant aimed shot back again. Anyone else noticed it?
Right now between 90-95% of all "random" BG's we join are Twin Peaks. We got AV and IoC disabled. anyone got the same experience? it's obvious something is broken.
DoTs got to get nerfed
Hi there Imagine i am playing Affliction Warlock, and im currently doing a BG and things looks for the worse. well, we are about to lose a base & the enemy team have no healers. I am currently now just applying Corruption to any enemy in the area, it will last 1 minute(because it needed a duration buff) but as well as that, it also then stops you from doing the objectives of a battleground. So, if i was to plant a bomb in Strands of the Ancients, a Warlock would only have to give me a corruption, bugger off for a minute come back and re-apply it. With the nerf to healers, Bg no longer have healers in them, so getting dispels if you intend to Q up solo is pretty much impossible unless you A: either play healer yourself or B: have a Shadowpriest on your team to mass dispel you or C: Play the shadow priest yourself. Please for the love of god, either nerf the duration of DoTs or remove the "DoTs will ensure you cant do the objectives in BGs"
Healer in bgs
If you are balancing the gear Make sure you Balance the healers in bgs 0 vs 3 not fun
PvP feels unbalanced now
I don`t know, how many posts there are with people crying about PvP and i don`t want to know. But the majority of those Posts don´t really explain what is wrong. Let`s start from the beginning, shall we? So, when i heard that the Gear is being "normalized" i was somewhat happy about it and suspicious. Now i haven`t really played WoW for a long time, but the one thing i noticed in PvP was that it was a lot about Tactics and a lot about luck. I`ll be taking a Warrior in Ashran as example now. One time in Ashran a warrior obtained the artifact, he was like "oh great i`m op now" -> Ran into horde, died, 30 minutes of winning for Horde. One or two days later (we were loosing hard!) again a Warrior obtained the artifact - i was starting to fear the worst, was mentally prepared for rage quitting when the Warrior suddenly spammed /rw "All on skull" - "All on skull" - We stealthed, ran into the Horde as one and wiped their entire Team with that warrior wielding his blades at the healers first. So this day i was lucky and managed to obtain some Gear for my Hunter and that`s how PvP was all the time. To give another example we`ll just to the Island. "All on Docks" - "All on Docks" - is literally the first thing you see in chat when you join in. Now people with the Intelligence Buff would go Docks, make sure it is secured and then defend the gleves while the rest hops in and uses Bombs. Everyone without the Buff would be getting wrecked at mid... Okay okay, what has all this got to do with "unbalanced PvP"? It`s fairly simple, while you maybe had 3 Hunters being ridiculously under geared, you maybe had the advantage of a fully geared mage who actually knows what he was doing. That kinda balanced everything out. You didn`t had to worry about your team, as "the good players" were making up with gear and skills on what "the bad players" lacked. Now we jump to the Pre- patch....... First of all - Frost DK`s are absolutely useless in PvP, as they just do auto hits in 50% of the time, while Anti Magic Shell keeps them up long enough to do 10k dps (if even) - But that`s not the point i`m on about. Now while before the mage was making up for the hunters - they all got "scaled" to some sorta the same level. At least so the theory. But the proven fact is, that now you haven`t got those "pro players" anymore, since they`re lacking equipment. So if you now get a hunter in your Team, that has no clue what to do - You have to live with it. You can either sit there half an hour explaining to him or you just go auto follow afk. I`m not saying, that the "good players" are helping the "bad ones", because in most cases they felt like they`re the kings and if somebody didn`t know what to do they just flamed him and his mother. But still they were keeping everything on a certain level on balance. You might had the Luck to have 3 or more of those good ones in a team and then win the random battleground (which was very rare as alliance player) and of course there is those players on the other team aswell (even tho their team seems to be 90% rogues most of the times) - but (and i`m not sure about this) : The way those stats get calculated was different to the way your team stats were calculated. I know i know, tell me i`m wrong - that`s fine... But when i see an enemy Mage with 500k life, while our team get`s scaled down to say 300k Life that`s ridiculous. We need 3 players that know their rotation to actually hit him down and they barely walk out alive. About the classes and rotations etc... Now all of the Mentioned classes are just ment to show an example, to help you understand better why PvP feels unbalanced now. I`m very aware of the fact, that some classes / rotations lack damage and or resources to do damage, but that`s not the point of this Post as things get changed all the times and if enough babies cry about their classes they will eventually be powered up. Another HUGE difference is the majority of classes in PvP. Now this is again "how it feels" and this should not stand as an argumentation foundation: Whenever i join random Battleground i see most of my Team is a DD. Yeah you always get like 1 healer in your Team, but never more then that and most of the Time you don`t have a Tank, while the enemy team always seem to have 2 - 4 Healers and at least one Tank. Now i don`t know exactly how the teams are thrown together, but what i know fer sure is that somebody didn`t put much affords in that. Just to put it all together once more: All in all the lack of the "OP Gear" (i know, i know - but that`s how i want to call it right now) makes things worse and not better. Okay i have cried a lot, but how to solve this issue? I`m very sure, that somebody out there who feels the same has put some big thoughts into this and they might come up with a brilliant Idea. But to be honest i haven`t got one. The only thing i can suggest is to put the same amount of Healers, Tanks and DD`s in both teams. Maybe this can be Link with the Achievement for Victory's or something, but i didn`t manage to find a good solution yet that i could share. Oh and the last thing i got to say is: FOR THE ALLIANCE! and ofc have a nice day and a nice time reading this small book.
Gear is utterly useless for PvPers now?!
I leveled a DK the last few days. When he hit lvl100 he had 160k HP and ilvl540. I queued for a BG and saw that i have 621k HP and around 18% crit, 4x% mastery etc. After a few BGs i equipped the ilvl710 weapon and joined a BG...nothing changed statwise. Same crit, haste, mastery etc. Same after a few more new items. So why exactly should i farm gear as a PvP-player now?
3 hours Ashran Queue?
beside the Ashran map is not working and both factions have around 3 hours queue. what is going on? when this will be fixed.. and whats with the weird HP scale of the Faction boss in Ashran? is this a bug or working as intended?
The Every-Expansion Warlock Issue:Or can Blizzard math?
http://prntscr.com/bwrbym Why are warlocks healing almost as much, or more than, dedicated healing specializations? The druid was being pressured hard all that WSG match and healing almost non-stop when not blinking and sprinting out of range.
How to wait till 110 for balance
Its not fun playing vs rogue. I don't know if I can wait till 110 only to find rogue cannot be beaten without being a tank. Legion beta duelling videos show that rogue is clearly stronger vs all DPS classes including Demon Hunter. Assassination trumps all. What is there to look forward to for those who want to play something else.
Healer/dps matchmaking in bg
Can you please make it so an equal number of healers (say 3) and dps (say 7) join a bg instead of having it total random? At the moment bgs are heavily dependent on the amount of healers a team has. Just 2 resto druids are enough to keep the entire raid alive, and if the other team has none, it turns to a very unbalanced and unpleasant match. Couple that with current affliction locks survivability, and a team composed of afflies and rdruids will become the most cancerous thing you can encounter. Moreover sometimes it gets extremely retarded, and we have bgs where 7/10 are healers. Don't believe it? Here's the screen: http://imgur.com/a/D82Vs 5 mistweaver monks, 1 resto shaman, 1 holy pala. It was impossible to kill anything in that bg, they just camped cartels because well, they can't die, you can't pull monks off with their insane mobility either, so they just camped it to the end. If anyone got low on hp? Oh well, they have a total of 6 bubbles, so they can save anyone. In order to avoid situations as those, could you please make it so no more than 3 healers can join a bg? I would be happy even if it increased queue time, anything is better than 15 min cancer bg against a team with 70% healers that can't die. Thank you for your attention PS: that, or either reduce the importance of healers in bgs. Still, playing on even grounds would be preferred.
please for the love of green jesus ban the bots
i know i know it was probably posted here many times already but its so annoying you log in to do a bg for funziz and u get !@#$ing bots in your team,and it boggles my mind wow is the biggest mmo in the market,has a sub fee,blizzard is supposed to be a serious company WTF is going on? anyone botting in BGs should be perma banned,i understand you might lose a sub here but you will lose a hell of lot more subs who are %^-*ing tired of seeing this !@#$ and feel like blizz just dont give a rats %^- about it
SKIRMISH JOIN IN COMBAT NERF IT
There are a lot people that love WPVP but now is being arruined by some cowards that when they gonna die they join skirmish making us to LOST our HK! Some times they go Hellfire to kill NPCS and LOWBIES at Thrallmar and we can't kill them cuz they join skirmish! SERIOUSLY? Mage use ice block and wait skirmish pop to join it and avoid die, SERIOUSLY? Some times they jump to you to kill but when they see could not kill you join skirmish! SERIOUSLY? BLIZZARD YOU ARE ARRUINING WPVP WITH THIS STUPID FEATHER AND SKIRMISH! It is ONLY SKIRMISH the player don't need to join it in combat dosent matter if lost the que cuz it won't lost rating!!! so people que skirmish will avoid combat for wait his skirmish pop!!!
Will Twinking still be possible in Legion?
Or does gear not matter any more? I don't fully understand the new system and how it has and will affect future twinking.
Please stop making me play with Russians!
This is an major issue that alot of us is experiance. We get lagspikes and latancy problems every single time we play against russians. I think this is really affecting my gameplay at all levels. They destroy the whole pvp exp and its not just because im a sore loser etc its just that they are really lagging the whole bgs, please let them be in there own servers! Best regards!
I dont know if there is already a topic about how blizzard manipulate random battlegrounds. Some people gonne say you see alliens but i got the strongest suspicion that blizzard manipulate random battlegrounds whit secret buff and whit that,control the stats on a certain team.. I am not talking about 10 players 4 heals against no heals or just 1,i am talking about none visible buffs and heal /dmg increase or deacrease buffs.. I like some answers from the responsible dude of blizzard..
When I sign up for Random Battlegrounds, I exclute AV and IoC due to the hard Buttsucking from Blizzard of Premade teams... Where the !@#$ do Blizzard get the retarded idea I want to help them buttsuck? Time after time after time I have to freaking relist those two Battlegrounds... WHY?
Objective logo hide teammates from map
Example: When in Arathi Basin, I can't see if someone is defending Gold Mine if they are standing underneath the mines logo on map. Fix to this?
WW monk, no damage?
Am I the only monk that feels im hittin my targets with pillows? Used to love 1v1 with my monk, now im "afraid" of like every class..... Fingers crossed it will get better in legion! And flying serpent kick isnt working properly and the same thing with leg sweep. But thats just a patch fix I guess.
PVP Stat template idea
Thinking about the new PVP template for stats used for instanced PVP I agree this is good idea overall. But what I don't like, like many others, is that it is copy-paste class next to you. Also doesn't give you a chance to become creative. So, what I think might spice things up, and satisfy both sides, would be something like stats budget, with default set for the masses and adjustable values for all those interested in it. Currently, what I see in my stats, is that I get 102% of secondary stats in total. If I could get value of that (in numbers not percentage) and distribute it in "my" way that would be absolutely great. To make it work there would have to be DR (diminishing returns) system in play as it is in PVE, so you could not get anything silly like 80% crit and nothing else. The budget would grow in the same way, following average ilvl, as planned for Legion. What you think? I would be very happy to be able to try different builds in PVP. Lets try "quick" play with focus on haste? Why not. Crit heavy? There you go. Etc. Now, how to get it over to Blizz to consider....
Rogue and Aff Lock too overpowered
Rogue got too much CC and Damage Warlock self healing and absorbs are through the roof Sort your !@#$ out
Can thinks get back their own BG'so please
Today I have been running some bg'so in the 10-19 bracket. And yes I know pre-patch = imbalance. But this is not just regular imbalance. The twinks seem to be back in normal bg's and frankly... it just sux! I have full enchanted looms, and I can't barely do an impact of any of those who are twinked, not to mention they instant-kill you. Now, this is actually not so much about me as per say. But this, having the twinks back in normal battle grounds, makes me a tad concerned. You guys lost a lot of subs, now, finally you are doing something right, and with the movie you are getting a lot of new subs. How do you have in mind, that the new players shall find any fun in the battleground at all. When even loomed players doesn't stand a chance against the twinks? I mean it's bad enough for you as a new player entering a bg with full teams of fully loomed players.... then imagine the experience of a new player.. meeting twinks. Have you given it any thought, that you might actually loose some of the new subs, if it's people who is in for pvp along the leveling? Or just because they join a game, where you have to be almost exclusively veteran, to even be able to have fun aside of the dungeon rushing (which reached an insane level) and quest grinding. I don't have anything against twinking, I just really think that you should reconsider, if they should keep the access to the normal BG's ... for the sake of getting and most importantly KEEP new players to this game.
Lost BG = Major punishment?
I've noticed losing a battleground doesn't yield any effective reward beyond a bit of gold and some previous season gear. Mostly useless to a fully-geared character. Blizzard has added Mark of Honor, something really cool, you can now farm them on your main and use them to gear up alternative characters, that's -really- cool! Now I'm one of the people who can't tell if I'm losing and winning 50/50 or nine out of ten times(it differs), but a loss is pretty effectively demoralising now. Especially if you spend 15 minutes in Temple of Kotmogu and end up losing 1450 to 1500. 15 minutes. For bug all. Before you'd at least get 100-200 honor points for the same amount of time spent depending on how many honourable kills you earned, but you still got -something-, losing made no serious impact on how many battlegrounds you'd play, you'd just suck up a defeat and go win the next. Imagine losing 3-4 battlegrounds in a row now, that's an hour wasted gaining absolutely -nothing-. Is anyone else experiencing this and do you consider it an issue?
gear with equip: "increase item level in pvp combat"
Does the gear with the equip "increase item level to 730/740 in pvp combat" still enable in battlegrounds? I checked my character panel and my item level is still the same in bg as in normal world. Does that mean the stats increase is based on the normal itemlevel of the item when you try to increase your itemlevel?
PVP Necks / Rings / Trinkets
Did they remove all the warmongering jewelry in 7.0.3? didn't see its removal mentioned but I can't find it now