However, anyone reading this website will get a very negative view of the game most of you profess to love.
This could be a repost I have no idea as the search fuction on this website is one of the worst I have come across in 12 years on the internet.
So any one of us could be the warrior chap, Take a look into the battleground arena or raid forums you will find them overflowing with theads about how the game is full of noobs or as they like to call them, scrubs (How nice that word is and its now being used by Blizz themselves, wonderful eh).
It makes interesting reading I wonder if it will change anyone perception of those they see as not good players? I doubt it but you never know.
Anyway make of it what you will but its a damn shame this game is going that way.
However, this is a side effect of the 'teetering to the edges' direction MMORPG"s have taken (and hopefully will go away from once the sandparks hit)
With the levelling part trivialized so much, people learn little to nothing, even bare essentials, till they hit cap - and then they're supposed to operate in Raids that lack a good progression model (either aimed at newcomers, causing wailing and gnashing of teeth from Add-On laden veterans, or it's aimed at veterans, and newcomers get overwhelmed).
Add to this the Gear Treadmill with its resets (limiting the time people can take to overcome the obstacles they face) and of course the blatant catering to the 'hardcore' as if they're gods, and you create a stressed environment dominated by delusional people.
I know that the Korean mentality is probably different to ours but it's so depressing that the warrior felt he had to make a thread to apologise for being a bad player and say 'thank you' for every little bit of advice. His guild obviously couldn't be bothered to help him and the original poster's guild rejected him. It's a game. A player shouldn't feel like that but, believe me, they do even on the EU realms.
The problem is that the majority of general forum readers will probably agree ... it's the huge number of people playing the game who never look at a forum who act like that. They bully, they call names and they end up making players feel worthless and all fun has gone.
If something good comes out of it that would be great - I particularly like the idea of mentor raids but changing the mentality of so many of the current player base may not be possible.
Makes you reflect about how you act in the game, at least I know I did.
I can't imagine the elitist-ness is anywhere near as bad over here in Europe, but everyone can learn from this!
08/02/2013 18:18Posted by AnandaI know that the Korean mentality is probably different to ours but it's so depressing that the warrior felt he had to make a thread to apologise for being a bad player and say 'thank you' for every little bit of advice.
From what I've read from a Spanish blogger/journalist that has been living in Japan for a few years it's pretty common in some parts of Asia to apologise profusely for errors. At least in work environments/older people.
I know you do not want to see me around, so I just hide myself around mountains or corners of big cities...
In the end though it seems that the outcome has been good, with the "mentor raids" and so on. Which is a good thing, isnt that kinda thing suppose to be done by these ear-marked guilds on servers called something like "mentor guild" / "newbie friendly" guilds that blizz made.
So yes, I know exactly how this poor young man feels. While I wasn't known across the server for my poor performance, it must be horrible to be hated by everyone on the realm. Literally hundreds or even thousands of people giving flak because one wants to have fun, just like you, and be the very best.
I'd hate to think that the game is already like this, and when I first joined, it was. Nobody could tolerate my performance, but with time and effort I learnt. And now? I'm far more confident.
+1 Likey. I'd vote up the original thread if not for being disallowed on the US Forums. Unfortunately there will be no fun left at one point - there'll only be the best of the best. And what, pray tell, will that achieve?
Real life situations are easier to control and don't usually get out of hand, but the internet makes it possible for people to forget/ignore peoples feelings/problems.
As people have mentioned it is survival of the fittest, but how warped is out sense of worth when a players performance within the confines of a game, ie fighting pixels and learning to out perform each other in PVP or PVE or first person shooter games, is valued more than the ability to take someone by the hand and take the time to help them improve.
The ability to pass on information is one of the reasons the human race became the top of the food chain. If information was never shared or put in books etc we wouldn't have progressed as fast as we have.
If a games player base never takes the time to help new people catch up to them game companies have no choice but to make long standing games easier.
My first healing attempts in a dungeon after only a couple of weeks of playing WoW were met with such nastyness and bile I refused to pug dungeons for the majority of my time I have been playing, and it's only recently with good friends I will risk the odd pug.
08/02/2013 18:18Posted by AnandaI could so empathise with the warrior - it *is* harder for someone older (particularly one who's new to online games) to understand how to play, how to approach new experiences and how to keep up with experienced self-styled 'elite' players.
Agree, completely. my other half (feral bear) was threatened and harassed by "experts" at the beginning of a LFR the other week for being accused of having expertise on his gear before he had even pulled the first trash mob pack. Luckily he survived the votekick and went on to not only successfully tank alongside the second tank with no wipes and only a handful of casualties, but also 3rd highest dps. But the attitude of these elitists trying to kick him without even seeing him play disgusted me and (clearly others in the group as they refused to kick and give him a chance.) I should imagine coming into contact with these kinds of people constantly with little reprieve for the Korean fella could be utterly miserable for him, and to be honest, if it was me, I probably would have quit the game long before he did, with nobody willing to help.
09/02/2013 07:43Posted by Grusumhow warped is out sense of worth when a players performance within the confines of a game, ie fighting pixels and learning to out perform each other in PVP or PVE or first person shooter games, is valued more than the ability to take someone by the hand and take the time to help them improve.
I laugh when posts here say that it doesn't happen on EU servers, that is just total BS. Casual players are often cast out to play solo and consequently, get no help from the more seasoned players. When you post a question on the forums, too often, you get responses from brainless cretins calling you names and making fun of you for not knowing. We were all newbies once and just because you know more about the game because you've played longer, doesn't make you a better player nor give you the right to poke fun at new players. You may have more knowledge about the game and the mechanics but that's as far as it goes. I know a hell of a lot about woodwork but I can't handsaw in a straight line to save my life.