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22/06/2011 05:54Posted by BlooDCounT

Well done mate. Thank you for taking your time to write this.

Glad to see it was helpful! ^^

Bumppers

Just keeping it on the front page...

Call me sir bumps-alot...

nice write up dude :D

30/06/2011 09:40Posted by ThatGuy

nice write up dude :D

Why thank you kind sir! ^^

Haven't had time to read through whole but I'll give my two cents (sick eff0rt by the way!)

against PDD, if you have haluccination, a cute trick is to hallucinate 2 phoenix'es, as they draw the PDD's energy very quickly.

I disagree wholeheartedly about what you say about carriers by the way, as anyone decent will just make a ton of corruptors and win the match :p.

Also, when you're in a zergs base, look on how much larvae that he has saved up, as that can be quite a tell on what's coming.

Also a gateway heavy build relies on quick upgrades against T to be viable, as well as some protosses have began incorporating the quick upgrades with the collossi ball mixture (i.e double forge+ 5 gate + collossi)

02/07/2011 00:30Posted by upmagic

I disagree wholeheartedly about what you say about carriers by the way, as anyone decent will just make a ton of corruptors and win the match :p.

Haha, there has been a lot of discussion about them here on the forums recently too. It's hard to find a place for them but I feel my acessment was at least acceptable :P

02/07/2011 00:30Posted by upmagic

Also a gateway heavy build relies on quick upgrades against T to be viable, as well as some protosses have began incorporating the quick upgrades with the collossi ball mixture (i.e double forge+ 5 gate + collossi)

This is one of the most powerful builds I've seen recently, and I think it's a good one for higher level players. HOWEVER, because you are going to suffer on the unit count (better units require more micro then lots of crap units [see zerg :P]) and that's why I shy away from fast upgrades in posts for beginners. (There's a really cool T build against Z where you get super fast 2/2 marines and win with splitting and tanks but it's hard) The same holds true for a Toss build with an early Forge. It's great if you can remember to use it and to keep your units alive, but if you're one of those players who will lose units in transition (miss-rally or other beginner mistakes) it's hard to justify that +1 attack if your immortal just died and you don't have any more to handle the Marauders. Not saying it's not an awesome build (in fact it's my PvT), but remember that I'm aiming this towards the new toss players.

About the carriers was just my opinion though, I should've separated it from the rest I said about my post.

Z = Zealots
S = Stalkers and Sentries
C = Colossus
F = Force Fields
O = Enemy units
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---OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO---
-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F--
OOO---O--OO—O--F-F-OO-OOO-OO-FF
----------------------------------------------------
Z--Z--Z-- Z--Z--Z--Z--Z--Z--Z--Z--Z--Z--Z
---S----S---S-------S-S---S---S-S---S--S----S
----------C------C------------C-----C------C---
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i lol'd at the number of forcefileds

06/07/2011 21:40Posted by iLoveSentrys

i lol'd at the number of forcefileds

I lol'd at your name and comment combo! :P I'm so stoaked this got stickied!!! :D

Thanks for all the support y'all!


★Light★

Soooooo... as a result of all the support this thread has finally been stickied! <3


As a thank you to y'all, here's the entire guide with all 3 races in PDF format:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bgohnjtxjha0dlb


★Light★

Awesome! Helped me a lot! :D

g) Proxy 2-Gate (PvP):

9- Pylon
12- Gateway
14- Gateway
15- Pylon
(15- Cut Probes)
16- Zealot (Chrono Boost this one)
18- Zealot (Chrono Boost this one too)
20- Zealot
20- Pylon
22- Zealot
24- Zealot
(26- Resume probes)
27- Zealot
28- Cybernetics Core


As an alternative to 4-Gate, this build is designed for 2-player maps (but can work on 4-player if you send two Probes to scout at the start) and is considered cheese. (oGsMC used it most recently against DuckloadRa at I believe Dreamhack). When the game starts, send one of your probes to the opponent’s base and build your first pylon out of sight. You can put it on the low ground next to the base and build the two Gateways on the high ground with your “scouting” probe. The success of this build depends on not being scouted until you’ll be able to get the Zealots out. It will end games if not scouted against all races, but you’ll be far behind if it fails. Any transition is possible if you do enough damage. Just don’t invest everything in it if the opponent scouts it early.

You should change this as the Pylons got nerfed. Pylons dont provide powerfields on ground above them.

24/07/2011 11:12Posted by BrotherRoga

You should change this as the Pylons got nerfed. Pylons dont provide powerfields on ground above them.

Just tried it against the computer and it worked... tho I'm pretty sure you were trying to dissuade cheese and I don't mind that! :P

★Light★

Amazing

ZING!

great post helped alot:) just training ai right now:P

i think it would be cool if you linked some replays of the exact builds:) just to see it would help alot

great post helped alot:) just training ai right now:P

i think it would be cool if you linked some replays of the exact builds:) just to see it would help alot

Sounds like a good idea... I'm considering searching the replay sites to get pro replays of specific builds!


★Light★

Very nice job, Light! Awesome guide, ty!

Nice guide, it really helped!