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Recently there seems to be a sudden spike in teams all leaving the game in the first few seconds. I confronted a few of them on it and a couple of times they actually admitted they did it to get placed in bronze so they can win lots.
This is bad for all because it hurts lower ranked players when they have to face better opponents who have cheated to make their MMR low. It also hurts the players they gave a free win to, because their MMR gets inflated, matching them against opponents they have less change to win against. I now report all players in a team who all quit in first 5 seconds as "Cheating" >> and then write "Smurfing" or something like that in the report. Blizz, can you confirm you actually do anything with these reports? What should we write in the report? How do we know if these people are actually punished and aren't just getting away with it? I often give the offending players a 'gentle' reminder that what they are doing is against the rules and risks a ban. They almost always respond with laugher or bad language. When are these people going to get their just reward and be banned? The spoil it for everyone! |
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I think everyone has the right to leave from team game when the game has been going for 10 minutes or so and you see that your team is hopeless and that you will have a certain lose situation. Besides propably the rest of the team will still continue playing for an hour before the final loss. But yeah, if someone quits on first few seconds in team game, thats cheating.
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Bronze police reporting in
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Edited by DocLovin on 22/12/11 12:45 (GMT)
I don't know if its on the rise or not.
But a few days ago I did play against a team full of master league players, who precoded to face-roll our team and then leave the game just before we could. It was pretty obvious that they where throwing games just to go smurf. I didn't report them though. I though I'd let you bronzers deal with it as punishment for all the really bad nerf this nerf that threads. |
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What has all this talk about bronze got to do with anything???? I play in platinum leagues generally... In any case, smurfing hurts the players you quit on AND the players you then get matched against.
The original questions again, since on one made an attempt to answer them: |
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They cant, it is same problem as ICCup there good player reset their status back to D just to smurfing. U can reset urs status once per week back to Zero if i remember. (BW)
So smurfing will always be there. only thing u can do is report the quiter. |
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Edited by Spirit on 23/12/11 13:54 (GMT)
Which brings us right back to my original post and the original questions! |
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Edited by Kapeselus on 27/12/11 16:26 (GMT)
only thing u can do is report the quiter. Hi there. The answers I can give you: 1. We can't explain the way we use to deal with these cases, for reasons you surely understand. 2. Short description of what is going on is enough, we have all the data we need. 3. Well, you don't. We can't and don't release names of players we take action against, and don't inform about all ban actions and suspension/ban waves we perform. Thanks for bringing the issue up in such a constructive way, this helps quite a bit. Much appreciated :) |
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I agree. Team Killing is the worst thing about sc2.
I also agree Smurfing is on the rise. |
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ok b4 anyone comments , yes i am in bronze league yes i admit i am not a great player but that is why there are different leagues is it not for pple to play against pple of thier own skill level ,,, so as stated above how does it happen that when i lose matches i then go and check the replay to see where i can improve ,, i then check the players profile , league status and previous league status only to find on occasion that they were in gold or higher the season b4 ,, and i once asked a couple of players " why are you in bronmze " thier reply was to farm easy wins to get portraits !! this does not make the game fun for players in bronze and yes we are entitled to a opinion , and we are playing starcraft to enjoy it i thought blizz was clamping on down on players that deliberatly throw matches to drop or stay in lower leagues , it would be nice to know that action is taken against this sort of game play .
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And the solution is very simple: Ranklock
If you reach silver as a team you cant get back to bronze, if you get to Gold as a team, you cant get back to silver. Etc Etc. This prevents such lame cheaters from getting easy wins. Maybe display there team in red to let the rest know they are actually bad players that lose on purpose. |
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Edited by CHRIIS on 29/12/11 22:41 (GMT)
I have read the entire ruleset of Starcraft 2
And i cant find a single sentence telling that dropping from games should or will be punished by blizzard, not unless the person acts agressive in his chat or used a third party program to drop games. I dont believe blizzard will take any action on the matter. The teamgame system is made so that u (ideally) can play with 1-2-or even 3 people dropping from a game, since the remaining player gains full control / or a boost to his own econ to balance things out. Am i saying i love it when people drop games while im in them? No. Am i saying that u shouldnt except blizzard to care unless the person is in violation of the ruleset found on battle.net? Yes. And if by some instance an admin graces by my post , please inform me if such rules exist - hidden somewhere, either by PM or as a reply to the thread. |
Depends where they drop.. Also the full control is hard because you can't see the supply indicator of the dropped players. |
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Edited by Izziee on 29/12/11 23:14 (GMT)
I have read the entire ruleset of Starcraft 2 Actually, I personally can't be bothered to go looking for a link I know is there, but feel free, in fact, there's numerous ones, and Blizzard has stated VERY clearly that it IS against the rules to deliberately lose. Leaving a game because someone is at the door, once in a while, I am sure Blizzard would turn a blind eye to, but when you get players who CLEARLY leave within the first few seconds in many games from their match history, won't be ignored, and if that person is so incredibly popular that the door/phone goes every 5 minutes all day long, then they shouldn't be playing starcraft. Anyway, there rules are there and ignorance isn't an excuse. On a side note! Smurfing however, is NOT illegal, and I wish people would stop using that word. I personally don't smurf but there are legitimate (and many!) reasons why someone would want a second account, as long as that account is used responsibly (I.E to practice with an off race, to get away from friends you don't wish to see...whatever, there's tons of reasons and whatever YOU might not think is good enough, doesn't matter in the slightest, you are not that person, so you have no right to say what THEY do with THEIR account) |
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i report them for cheating and in the discription i wrigh "probobly win trading"
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Edited by Moonshadow on 03/01/12 09:03 (GMT)
I have read the entire ruleset of Starcraft 2 http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2313686140 http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2000495655 |
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Edited by MertoL on 27/03/12 14:32 (BST)
They don't ban them I haven't played versus maphackers on sc2 at least that I know of but I reported a few maphackers in warcraft3 and they still play the game. The status of one of them shows he played yesterday! I am talking about sure maphacks - I have fogclicks on screenshots and replays and they failed to ban them 4 months after the report now.
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