Topic (Locked) Loss and Win Trading Account Actions
Takralus
Takralus
Community
Recently, we took action against players that were engaged in the practice of intentionally losing games and/or automating gameplay in StarCraft II.

This is a reminder that exploitation of any kind will not be tolerated, and can be met with suspension from the game, revocation of achievements and portraits earned, or permanent closure of the offending account. If you're found to be automating your gameplay and/or purposefully losing games or win trading, your account will come under scrutiny, and any of the aforementioned actions may be taken.
Something #329
Something
Do you guys always take action even when you don't publicly say it?
nucLeaR #123
nucLeaR
Recently, we took action against players that were engaged in the practice of intentionally losing games and/or automating gameplay in StarCraft II.

This is a reminder that exploitation of any kind will not be tolerated, and can be met with suspension from the game, revocation of achievements and portraits earned, or permanent closure of the offending account. If you're found to be automating your gameplay and/or purposefully losing games or win trading, your account will come under scrutiny, and any of the aforementioned actions may be taken.



Also, you have to understand that there is no other way for people to learn new races other than this, right?
Something #329
Something
Recently, we took action against players that were engaged in the practice of intentionally losing games and/or automating gameplay in StarCraft II.

This is a reminder that exploitation of any kind will not be tolerated, and can be met with suspension from the game, revocation of achievements and portraits earned, or permanent closure of the offending account. If you're found to be automating your gameplay and/or purposefully losing games or win trading, your account will come under scrutiny, and any of the aforementioned actions may be taken.



Also, you have to understand that there is no other way for people to learn new races other than this, right?


You do know they can learn it on unranked matches, right?
Zero #1275
Zero
...The... Eff..?
Offracing MAY cause losing steaks, but those can always happen. This simply happening lightly should NEVER cause anything. If you get banned, deal with it, because you did. Don't go spreading things on the forums :D
Aurilar #114
Aurilar
Edited by Freakster on 07/03/12 21:40 (GMT)

You do know they can learn it on unranked matches, right?


Joking right?? Unranked nah now bronze then master then trolling gold then someone else and so on you won´t get to play 1/10 decent games in custom.
Moonshadow #339
Moonshadow
They are not going to ban you because your are on a losing streak.
They have other methods of figuring out if you cheat or not, and pretty much everything we can see on each others profile is probably not the info they use to ban people.
Aurilar #114
Aurilar
Edited by Freakster on 07/03/12 21:48 (GMT)
Yup you can also see a how long did game take if you lost after 20 minutes of game you probaly didn´t lose on purpose :P

On other hand if 20 games in row lasted 10 seconds :D
Something #329
Something

You do know they can learn it on unranked matches, right?


Joking right?? Unranked nah now bronze then master then trolling gold then someone else and so on you won´t get to play 1/10 decent games in custom.


Simple fix. They can use your mmr for quick match but it is unranked. So you can practice what ever you like and even leave right away and you cant get banned.
peterra #907
peterra
07/03/2012 19:27Posted by nucLeaR
Also, you have to understand that there is no other way for people to learn new races other than this, right?


I guess you're joking or?

So what you're saying is that you need to freelose x amount of games and get back to bronze to train a new race?

I learned to play protoss with another account that i was a master zerg with. I just started playing with toss and started to lose with toss. This is what happens. They're normal games that last around 10-15 minutes or less or sometimes more. But i don't get it how is it sufficient for anyone, for instance, in diamond to drop to bronze to play a new race? A diamond terran will be at least a gold toss or zerg. There's no way to say you need to bronze with a new race, mastering 1 race to a certain level helps you to realize another race a lot more as well.

You can just lose normally, play normal games, lose and then learn from those losses and eventually start winning. it's not like you need to go down with your MMR and start winning there straight away with your new race.
nucLeaR #123
nucLeaR
08/03/2012 09:19Posted by suprPeterra
it's not like you need to go down with your MMR and start winning there straight away with your new race.


So what's the difference between losing 30 games while trying my best (and learning nothing, but getting myself down) and making a 30 lose streak and then starting to play?
MrTortoise #910
MrTortoise
Blizzard FIX YOU RLADDRES AND LET PEOPEL HAVE SEPERATE LADDERS FOR RACE.

Otherwise the player pool will just get smaller and smaller.


You are killing your own game by being !@#$%^-s about it
Zero #1275
Zero
08/03/2012 18:29Posted by nucLeaR
it's not like you need to go down with your MMR and start winning there straight away with your new race.


So what's the difference between losing 30 games while trying my best (and learning nothing, but getting myself down) and making a 30 lose streak and then starting to play?


You DO learn something (replays, and you can learn something from EVERY loss), and the time it takes on average to get to acceptable level is nowhere near 30 games. If you switch races, more often than not you have bias and think that race is better, or you just think it suits your playstyle better. (Or you just want to have fun, what a game is made for.) Thus, you will unconciously perform better. And if you don't take the time to see what you did wrong when switching, you deserve the drop and should stay down there. How hard can it be? The system is well figured out, and exaggeration coupled with hypocritism doesn't really seem to give good arguments in favor of your opinion...
Tfly #393
Tfly
08/03/2012 21:06Posted by Zero


So what's the difference between losing 30 games while trying my best (and learning nothing, but getting myself down) and making a 30 lose streak and then starting to play?


You DO learn something (replays, and you can learn something from EVERY loss), and the time it takes on average to get to acceptable level is nowhere near 30 games. If you switch races, more often than not you have bias and think that race is better, or you just think it suits your playstyle better. (Or you just want to have fun, what a game is made for.) Thus, you will unconciously perform better. And if you don't take the time to see what you did wrong when switching, you deserve the drop and should stay down there. How hard can it be? The system is well figured out, and exaggeration coupled with hypocritism doesn't really seem to give good arguments in favor of your opinion...




so you as gold wont have much pain with switching races. what about if you are master or GM? the learning curve will be much greater therefore you will perma be on a losing streak for ages till you get some semblance of a balanced MMR.
i do condone cheating. what the f is the point in cheating in a multiplayer game in the sense of fun?
Zero #1275
Zero


You DO learn something (replays, and you can learn something from EVERY loss), and the time it takes on average to get to acceptable level is nowhere near 30 games. If you switch races, more often than not you have bias and think that race is better, or you just think it suits your playstyle better. (Or you just want to have fun, what a game is made for.) Thus, you will unconciously perform better. And if you don't take the time to see what you did wrong when switching, you deserve the drop and should stay down there. How hard can it be? The system is well figured out, and exaggeration coupled with hypocritism doesn't really seem to give good arguments in favor of your opinion...




so you as gold wont have much pain with switching races. what about if you are master or GM? the learning curve will be much greater therefore you will perma be on a losing streak for ages till you get some semblance of a balanced MMR.
i do condone cheating. what the f is the point in cheating in a multiplayer game in the sense of fun?


How about no.
First of all, if you're GM you usually won't switch races anymore. Second of all, who the hell is gonna drop their MMR like that on ladder if they ARE in GM? By that point you should have more than enough really good players in your friends list and don't have to try on ladder anymore. Also look at games where Destiny tries protoss. He was masters back then, and kept his win rate on the same level as Zerg. If you're at that level, your skill carries the race. (Okay, maybe slight exaggeration, but at that point, you can play all three races more than decent, and should NOT take that big a hit on your MMR.)
LaosOman #892
LaosOman
Recently, we took action against players that were engaged in the practice of intentionally losing games and/or automating gameplay in StarCraft II.

This is a reminder that exploitation of any kind will not be tolerated, and can be met with suspension from the game, revocation of achievements and portraits earned, or permanent closure of the offending account. If you're found to be automating your gameplay and/or purposefully losing games or win trading, your account will come under scrutiny, and any of the aforementioned actions may be taken.



Also, you have to understand that there is no other way for people to learn new races other than this, right?

...How about just playing the new race?

Crazy idea, I know.
Cinghiale #384
Cinghiale
...How about just playing the new race?

Crazy idea, I know.


+1
Tamerlane #360
Tamerlane


Also, you have to understand that there is no other way for people to learn new races other than this, right?


You use a bot to learn a new race? That sounds very inefficient.

Just play the games out normally, losing won't kill you.
Twilice #825
Twilice
The people here...

You won't get banned for playing a new race and losing...

You will be banned for INTENTIONAL LEAVING TO TRICK THE SYSTEM.



And you must be really stupid to think that if you start a new race you must leave 50 matches in a row. You just fill in a new raceoption and press start. (facepalm)
Losing because you are bad is not a reason to get you banned. HAVE you ever gotten banned because of it? No then just shut up! So tired of people drawing their own conclusions that isn't even related to the truth.
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