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do hackers get banned?
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or is it like other games where they roam free. does reporting get results with SC2?
just encountered a map reveal cheater, was only suspicious when he knew exactly where my proxy barracks was and went to it, check the replay and low and behold he was looking at my main with the fog of war on more than once without scouting. 1 in 3 chance i couldv been at that natural. i put down a proxy barracks, not long after putting it down the replay showed him moving the camera over the exact spot, and then proceded to walk his troops directly to it ive reported so hopefully the dude will get banned, i messaged him but no reply. the name was "PAWNA" |
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27/03/2012
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No name no shame, eh?
Hackers do get banned, but you need proof to ban them. If there is no proof then there will be no ban. Let's hope it will eventually sink with the amount of hackers today. I don't think there are so many of them, but their anti-Warden system is to good to get caught. Right now it is only the players who can determine if they are hacking or not. |
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27/03/2012
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Edited by MiTziBisHi on 27/03/12 06:35 (BST)
well i reported and the proof is in the replay or however they check for ingame tomfoolery.
yeh he was def hacking, checked replay and he was looking at my base a number of times through the fog and moved his camera directly to my proxy rax seconds after i started building it. he was bottom left, i was top right, my proxy was middle left next to the gold minerals shatered temple. no scouting just straight up clicking the minimap exactly on the hotspots i dont normally shout "hax" but ive been playing online games long enough to know when something isnt quite right and not shout without checking for proof hopefully its a straight ban coming his way |
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27/03/2012
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http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3129362914#10 |
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27/03/2012
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Edited by Jaxify on 28/03/12 18:06 (BST)
No, this is not true. It is true to a little degree tho.. Hackers have their own methods of bypassing Warden (Blizzard's anti-cheat sytem). They know how the Warden works and they know exactly what they need to do in order to bypass it! This is where the "humans" come in. Those cheaters who have managed to bypass Warden needs to be caught using the human skills in observing. Warden is only checking trough lots and lots of codes in order to catch the cheaters. We (humans) need to catch those who manage to slip through. The reason they are banning in waves and not "one by one" is because they want to catch all the cheaters in one big wave. For example: If a person has just download a maphack, logged into his account and suddenly got banned, he would report to the hacking community and tell them that he was banned for using that maphack. The creator of the maphack would warn people not to use it and would improve his maphack. This means only ONE cheater out of X got caught and banned. When they ban in waves, they let the cheaters go by and play with their hack for a limited amount of time before they ban them. In this case maybe 300 persons used the maphack and got banned for doing so. You might think that in the second case most damage was dealt to the players who are not cheating.. Well, this is wrong. The 300 hackers could do whatever they wanted to do with their hack for a limited amount of time, but all of them were caught! In the first case only one of them got caught.. This means that they are STILL maphacking.. TL;DR: Banning in waves is much better. - Edited the post to make it easier to understand. |
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27/03/2012
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The reason they are banning in waves and not "one by one" is because they want to catch all the cheaters in one big wave. This is to ensure that the cheaters who have been caught can't report back and tell the other cheaters that they have been banned and they need to work on their anti-Warden coding. This doesnt make much sense to me. Obviously people are constantly working on anti-warden codes anyway (assuming blizz constantly updates warden) or there wouldnt be hackers a year and a half after release. |
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27/03/2012
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Edited by MertoL on 28/03/12 07:48 (BST)
I protested a guy with maphack 4 months ago and his profile says he played yesterday. He was 100% maphack with several fog selects. Considering how dumb you have to be to make fog selects, imagine how many more are there that hide themselves better.
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28/03/2012
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thats exactly what im worried about, he was so obvious. ingame it was suspicious but in the replay he was just being ridiculous.
if it went to mid late game i wouldnt have been suspicous because there are more factors and random scoutings events happening from the oponent so i wouldnt have checked the replay and reported. but it does make you think of all the times you dont check the replay. if your tech is countered have they been aware of your strategy? finding a weakness in any of your bases defenses slipping though and beating you because of that advantage through map hack? and knowing of a hidden base and damaging your economy where before he wouldnt have scouted that area in the heat of battle. etc etc etc all i want is 1. my report to work and not fall on deaf ears 2. Ban him 3. my points back if my want in #1 is not met i may be forced to find another game to play. (and dont say go on then find another game because cheating is unacceptable, letting cheater get away with it, thrive and multiply is even more unacceptable) |
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28/03/2012
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Edited by MiTziBisHi on 04/08/12 13:57 (BST)
UPDATE:
i think one blatant hacker i played has been banned. i friended him, to track him, he went from bronze to gold. which really got my back up, from map hacking cannon rush in bronze which i took care of easily because he was terrible, not that im great but he was terrible to a gold via cheating. checked again and seems he hasnt played a single game in 2 months. from being active every day to nothing. a total cut off. hopefully justice has been done still didnt get my points though but he probs has another account set up already because on his last account he hadnt played a single minute in campaign or challenge games so that account mustv been bought after another ban. who buys SC2 and doesnt play campaign at least once |
#11
04/08/2012
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or is it like other games where they roam free. does reporting get results with SC2? I have blatant map hackers who never scout always check my base in for of war, they are still on my friends list playing months later. The impotent banning system will only encourage more maphackers. |
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04/08/2012
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encourage yes. especially from the ones that give you big LoLz when you tell them you will report
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05/08/2012
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