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nvm found them
http://drop.sc/169588
http://drop.sc/169589
http://drop.sc/169590
I thought i put the 3rd one in for the lols, not to show any skill or anything like that.
http://drop.sc/169591

30/04/2012 16:20Posted by synerg

http://drop.sc/169588

You droned up pretty fine, but your scouting was pretty lacking, try to take the towers, and keep a ling outside of his base to spot if he expands/moves out. You also really should get banelings/infestors vs a terran going bio. Your greatest problems were spending that money, put down some macro hatcheries if you are floating and unable to spend it, and getting the right counter units, banelings/infestors are great against such a clump of bio.

Ill check the next ones and edit this post to add them to it.

http://drop.sc/169589

Spread out your overlords around the map to see when he moves out/spot his troop movement. With that scouting info you can safely drone up more. Getting more upgrades for your roaches could be pretty nice, but i think scouting/droning up was your greatest problem in this game.

Edit Quoted the wrong replay for the first one, corrected it

http://drop.sc/169591

The last one, you stayed on 2 base too long, instead of attacking you should have just macroed up, teched to broodlords/got upgrades etc and kept him on his 2 bases.

its all about hours and hours of playng sc2, and watching streams to improve your timing, you need at least 300 h of game time .

well then dont watch the funday mondays ;D because day9 is the ONLY caster that actually KNOWS the game in a profound way.

Hey Synerg,

Add me guise #Char code: 166, We can go through a few things!

30/04/2012 16:39Posted by Bifizaurus

its all about hours and hours of playng sc2, and watching streams to improve your timing, you need at least 300 h of game time .

that seems rediculously excesive for just the capablility to have a strong enough knowledge of the game just to do well enough to go agansit people in my skill level/ league and ladder or whatever

30/04/2012 17:03Posted by synerg

that seems rediculously excesive for just the capablility to have a strong enough knowledge of the game just to do well enough to go agansit people in my skill level/ league and ladder or whatever

Well, i guess he is talking about reaching masters or whatever, not about doing well at your level. It certainly dosnt require that much to do well in any league before dia/masters.

30/04/2012 15:19Posted by synerg

Never asked for your permission i asked for your opinion, since theres a good amount of people that say yes and a good amount of people who say no.

And none of them are you.

If you struggle to afford food don't buy lessons. If you want to improve faster than otherwise and can afford lessons then get lessons.

As for my previous games regarding units is mostly due to the fact of my thoughts which at that stage when i have that much money i think, right ive got all these minerals and gas so now what? in other words i dunno what the hell to do with it to get a decent use out of it.

You shouldn't get "all these minerals" that you need to answer the "so now what?" question. If you have that much minerals stacked up, you've already lost. You should be spending minerals as fast as you get them until you have a maxed out army with all your upgrades.

This is simply down to no plan, you must have a plan whatever race you play, whatever race you end up against. If you have no plan, you're screwed before you start.

As for people saying go watch destiny,day9 and dignitas appolo been there done that.

Then you should do it again, and again. They have solved your issues multiple times in a friendly video format. Certainly, Day9 has multiple episodes that explain the issue you mention above and how to go about solving it. Rather than dismissing the advice multiple people are giving you.

I could put up my replays but its usually the same problem everytime, they're army out way masses mine because ive not poked them enough to disrupt economy and usually the enemy never goes for a 3rd so he just sits, turtles and mines out of 2 while amassing a huge army.

Whether its always the same issue or not, no-one is going to be able to help you too much without the replays. However, as I stated in my quick analysis of your last two games. You did not lose because "not poked them enough to disrupt economy", you lost because you should've had a far better economy than them based on your worker count, but you didn't. And the economy you did have, you didn't spend.

If someone turtles on one or two bases, just take the whole map, he cannot overpower you when your economy is that much stronger (and you spend it).

30/04/2012 17:38Posted by Hyori

This is simply down to no plan, you must have a plan whatever race you play, whatever race you end up against. If you have no plan, you're screwed before you start.

Agreed, I have plans that will last me up to roughly the 10-15 minute mark but then after that i feel like ive got nothing left to run on if I do progress into the late game which usually means I more or less just hit the "wall" and im clueless what to do next.

30/04/2012 17:38Posted by Hyori

Then you should do it again, and again.

I watch videos and streams all the time, I see what they do but i often get it wrong and others i just completely forget about what they did.

I am curious about one thing tho, all the time when i watch other players I see his camera lock on to his control group whenever he selects it, how do you do this?

You need an early game, mid game and late game plan.

Day9 Daily 442 - Zerg Builds Made Easy
http://blip.tv/file/6062749

Day9 Daily 434 - Simplifying Problems
http://blip.tv/file/6035070

Day9 Daily 424 - Adjustments
http://blip.tv/file/5963061

Day9 Daily 426 - 10 Games Worth of Adjustments
http://blip.tv/file/5974032

Day9 Daily 419 - Fixing 1 Problem At A Time
http://blip.tv/file/5941973

The list goes on, by "You should do it again, and again" I don't mean watch various episodes. I mean watch the same episode multiple times :)

Agreed, I have plans that will last me up to roughly the 10-15 minute mark but then after that i feel like ive got nothing left to run on if I do progress into the late game which usually means I more or less just hit the "wall" and im clueless what to do next.

Pick something :) It is better to have a plan and fail than have no plan at all "At the 15 minute mark I will expand to every base on the map and spam broodlords". When you get to that point in a game and it fails, answer the "Hmmm, that didn't work what should I change?" question. Then try again with your adjustments.

I am curious about one thing tho, all the time when i watch other players I see his camera lock on to his control group whenever he selects it, how do you do this?

I believe it's ctrl+f or shift+ctrl+f (not at my home computer at the moment so can't check). It can be useful in a replay, but it's not a particularly useful key to use when actually playing. Alternatively, he may just be using his middle mouse button to pan the camera.

30/04/2012 18:13Posted by Hyori

It can be useful in a replay, but it's not a particularly useful key to use when actually playing. Alternatively, he may just be using his middle mouse button to pan the camera.

Unless you are macroing zerg queens which is certainly seems to help in every situation ive seen.

It doesn't help at all with macroing zerg queens. You'll never need the camera locked to a single unit during gameplay.

Thanks to all of you that have contributed to this thread and to help myself at becoming a better player, I hope this thread will also help others in my posistion because of the amount of people willing to help as well as all the information/ links posted on here to good guide/ tutorial videos.

Okay, I've watched one of your replays and I take back everything I said before, because your problems lie at a totally different level than I thought.

It is clear to me that you need to learn the most basic mechanics. Here's a list of a few things that you must do, but never did in the game I watched:
1. Set rally points for your hatcheries. You did set rally points for drones, but each hatchery has 2 rally points: one for drones and one for units. You should set the one for units in front of your second base (just select all hatches and right-click on the ground). It is much easier to manage your army if it gathers in one place.
2. Use hotkeys. The most important things to hotkey are your hatches. At the start of the game select your hatch and press ctrl+0. Then whenever you press 0, it will be selected. When you build a new hatch, select it and press shift+0. Then press 0 to see that both your hatches are now hotkeyed as 0. Repeat for every new hatchery. When you need to build any units, just press 0S and you already have all your larvae selected and ready to morph.
3. Use keyboard shortcuts. By this I mean Z for zergling and stuff like this. I couldn't see it on replay, but I presume that you don't do this. In game options you can set that shortcuts appear on the buttons that you would normally click with your mouse - use this to learn them all. Just whenever you want to issue a command, don't click the button, but look at it and use the indicated shortcut.

Rally points and using the keyboard is the most basic stuff. When you're done with this, there will be other issues concerning mechanics. It is really much easier to start playing if someone tells you all of this, so I advise you to find a coach. Not someone who gets paid for coaching, but just any player who would be willing to spend some time showing you all the tricks. I could do it, for example.

30/04/2012 21:43Posted by dzony

Use hotkeys. The most important things to hotkey are your hatches.

Yea I've got a habit where i forget to use control groups

30/04/2012 21:43Posted by dzony

Use keyboard shortcuts.

already doing it, i know most of them but i may just hover over them a few times to just check.

30/04/2012 21:43Posted by dzony

Set rally points for your hatcheries.

same as control groups really i know that they're there but i just forget them.
Il try to make use of this information in my next ladder match which will probably be tommorow, I was kinda nervous to do them today but il take a look at all the guides you guys sent me and all the tips you have also supplied.

Il make sure to submit replay link often so you guys can see any other problems in my gameplay.

A nice video on keyboard (once you get past the intro with the sc2 unit impressions):

Secrets of hotkeys, apm and mouse movement
http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-252-secrets-of-hotkeys-apm-and-mouse-movement-4730506

Kinda hate spamming day9 links, but if you're learning the games it's a gold mine of information.

[EDIT] Also, you do *not* have to practice all this on the ladder. Start an AI game vs a very easy computer opponent, and simply practice. Keep the replay, do it again and do comparisons between the games. ie. At 10 minutes how many units and bases do you have? Now do it again and try to do better. Measure at intervals, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 15, 20 etc.

One thing I used to do was setup a game vs a very easy computer and give myself the goal of reaching a 200\200 army with 3\3 upgrades. Then try and beat it. That's not to say *never* play on ladder, only that a lot of improvement can be made not on the ladder.

You can practice a build, and if you do it wrong. Just quit and restart until you get it down. For example.

Practicing on AI is okay for stuff like macro and stuff like getting economy up, but the one thing I dont like about the AI is that they only really stick to one build order which makes it so even at first you dont win, you can then just learn that counter then do it in the match after. I mentioned on my first thread that ive done about 20 AI games on very hard difficulty and i did well vs them, but then i went into a ladder match and well, kinda speaks for it self doesnt it?

EDIT: although i could perhaps try out all the maps on AI that are included in the ladder matches as knowing the map makes so much difference from being completely new to it.

You don't play the AI to learn strategy, you play the AI to practice your macro and shortcut control, as well as your build execution :)

30/04/2012 23:44Posted by Hyori

You don't play the AI to learn strategy, you play the AI to practice your macro and shortcut control, as well as your build execution :)

Or ... you don't play AI at all :)

I just train everything on ladder or in custom games with other people (if I had someone to train with).