StarCraft® II

Terran Psi-Khala-Nerazim vs Zerg

17/07/2012 10:23Posted by Mihai
They realized their souls would die if they don't make a superior life form to sustain them.

Bai Mihai, The StarCraft manual does not mention about the Xel'Naga as a dying race but as one who is lustfully driven to create or engineer other superior or perfect races.
The soul idea is interesting but I don't exactly understand the deep space you're pointing out. They could've put their souls in Khaydarin crystals, IMO. So you're saying Duran could be one of the many genetic experiments the Xel'Naga did? If so he would be perfection. Or the Xel'Naga could be the creation of the Dark Voice (Duran's master).
17/07/2012 17:35Posted by Telenil
Gene-splicing exists in real life already

Yes yes but the idea was that Zerg and Protoss hybrids would have to lose either the assimilation or the anti-assimilation process (Khala).
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Pai bai Alex, e clar ca sti mai mult lore ca mine :))

On topic now:

It's no imperative for the manual to say the xel naga are dieing.
They could store their souls in crystals, but they would need energy to sustain them I suppose. So that energy may come from planets, if the planet dies so does the soul. Or are those crystals also generating energy? I don't know that. But even if they do generate energy, maybe after such a long life they would need more energy, so the planet idea is more plausible in this case.

The thing with deep space, was that they are safe out there, because there are only black holes there, and if they have either super heavy ships OR excellent scanners they will not die to black holes.

About the Duran character. He is for sure a very intriguing character, and I can't say much about him even in theory...just what I already said. He can't be perfect, hybrids are not perfect either, they are just far superior.
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18/07/2012 15:05Posted by Mihai
They could store their souls in crystals,

As a theory it's good I suppose. I don't understand why would they be dying. Are you saying they would need other creature's souls to prolong their life span? They would not need energy to sustain crystals as the soul itself is energy. So is the crystal though it has the property to store information (as the manual says). You're saying that planet cores can sustain the stored souls in the crystals; it's an interesting hypothesis.
18/07/2012 15:05Posted by Mihai
Or are those crystals also generating energy?

Pylons generate energy through Nexuses and are made from carved Khaydarin crystals.
18/07/2012 15:05Posted by Mihai
because there are only black holes there, and if they have either super heavy ships OR excellent scanners they will not die to black holes.

I don't really understand. The black holes forcefully attract matter to turn it into the smallest particles. How can that prove safety?
18/07/2012 15:05Posted by Mihai
they are just far superior.

There is no greater perfection than increasing perfection.
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19/07/2012 10:06Posted by AlexOdhin
I don't understand why would they be dying.


You are probably right. They might just want to get stronger bodies, but then they are hiding for some reason? Are they studying the other races maybe? It's also a theory.

19/07/2012 10:06Posted by AlexOdhin
They would not need energy to sustain crystals as the soul itself is energy


Do you know that for a fact? No one knows exactly what souls are, so yet again just theory. Most of what I say is just fantasy, I don't know much lore except for the SC1 manual and campaigns.

19/07/2012 10:06Posted by AlexOdhin
Pylons generate energy through Nexuses and are made from carved Khaydarin crystals.


I thought pylons transfer energy from a source...hmm

19/07/2012 10:06Posted by AlexOdhin
I don't really understand. The black holes forcefully attract matter to turn it into the smallest particles. How can that prove safety?


Black Holes are dead stars, which are extremely heavy. This is why they attract other stuff. So if the xel naga ships are also very heavy, the black holes will have no effect on them.
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19/07/2012 17:07Posted by Mihai
I thought pylons transfer energy from a source...hmm

There's this massive Khaydarin powersource/formation under Aiur. The Nexuses channel the energy from there to the Pylons that on their turn channel it further to Protoss buildings.
19/07/2012 17:07Posted by Mihai
Do you know that for a fact?

Everything is energy. When a living thing dies what remains of it be it ashes or decomposing corpse is the soul. It is information that spreads throughout the universe and recycles to be the many fractions to form other entities.
19/07/2012 17:07Posted by Mihai
So if the xel naga ships are also very heavy, the black holes will have no effect on them.

You realize the fantasy in this one. For a ship to reach that attractive force and weight it would require a combination of very many stars.
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20/07/2012 09:42Posted by AlexOdhin
You realize the fantasy in this one. For a ship to reach that attractive force and weight it would require a combination of very many stars.


Well the ships would need to be very heavy, but that in combination with their thrusters, and the fact that even if they don't have excellent sensors they do realize when they would enter the pull radius of a hole, so they would use the engine power to get away. And the grav pull is obviously not very strong on the edges.

The thing with black holes is that they are of course much heavier than other stars so they attract them, but they attract them slowly at first, and as long as they get nearer to the hole they are attracted faster. The planets however are not trying to escape the pull, but a ship would. You've got to factor that, plus all of this is 99% speculation, we never sent anything to a black hole, so we wouldn't know for sure.
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20/07/2012 19:05Posted by Mihai
Well the ships would need to be very heavy

I would like you to elaborate your theory of deep space, black holes and Xel'Naga ships so I could understand it correctly.
As of now I understood that the Xel'Naga put their souls to sleep in their heavy ships that wonder in space and when the ships get near a black hole they just go far from it. Is that it?
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21/07/2012 09:53Posted by AlexOdhin
Well the ships would need to be very heavy

I would like you to elaborate your theory of deep space, black holes and Xel'Naga ships so I could understand it correctly.
As of now I understood that the Xel'Naga put their souls to sleep in their heavy ships that wonder in space and when the ships get near a black hole they just go far from it. Is that it?


There would be no reason to wonder in dark space if all they want is to wait. The ships would just stay there, and in case of a black hole they would evade it that's all.

All I said is that it's much safer in dark space, it is only safer if they have the technology to evade black holes. The reason it is safer is because the number 1 reason: they will remain hidden.
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21/07/2012 11:07Posted by Mihai
The reason it is safer is because the number 1 reason: they will remain hidden.

Unless they're found by telescopes, other ships or hit by a meteor shower. If they just sit there in space then they will be attracted by heavier bodies/stars which means the ships will not hold position but just float all over space changing destination. I don't think they'll have enough energy to evade everything for too long.
It's an interesting theory if it has a time limit.
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22/07/2012 11:34Posted by AlexOdhin
The reason it is safer is because the number 1 reason: they will remain hidden.

Unless they're found by telescopes, other ships or hit by a meteor shower. If they just sit there in space then they will be attracted by heavier bodies/stars which means the ships will not hold position but just float all over space changing destination. I don't think they'll have enough energy to evade everything for too long.
It's an interesting theory if it has a time limit.


Yeah if that limit is past then they can start using their own souls to fuel that energy. Everything ftw right?
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22/07/2012 15:01Posted by Mihai
Yeah if that limit is past then they can start using their own souls to fuel that energy. Everything ftw right?

Right.
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