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I am in dire need of help!
I am in the Gold league for 1v1, i was at one point 1st in the gold league, but just overnight i have gone immensely crap!

I come up against Protoss and the only way i can defeat them recently is by getting lots of marines early game before he gets a Colossus.

I try going MMM, MMMG, MMM+Vikings and i have a good sized army but they always seem to go Stalkers (with other tier 1 units) & Colossi and it rips through my marines and Marauders like paper while the stalkers rip through my medivacs.

It is very hard to get a tactical advantage over my opponent with the vikings as they always keep the stalkers close by.

I scout Protoss players and see them going for this strategy and i just do not know what to do.

How do i counter this? I had lost 8 games in a row 1v1 and was on the edge of putting my fist through the monitor and throwing it around the room :P

What the hell? A terran losing? Wow, no offense, but is this your first day playing? Seriously...

What the hell? A terran losing? Wow, no offense, but is this your first day playing? Seriously...

Yo, dude, help the guy with his question or just GTFO this forums. Not everyone is as pro as you. Tard.


I was wondering the same thing. If I can't get them by the initial marine rush I won't be able to down them anyway...

Any help would be apreciated.

hmm, scout them and build counters, marauder screw over gateway units and as for the colossus, do a drop and knock out the robo bay and focus the colossus down, or micro ure vikings they have afurther range than stalkers

Thanks for the help Dirgius!
Next time i have a long game vs Protoss that use this build i will use this tactic and post back to let you know how it went :)

Ever thought about going mech?

TvP? Reapers! (:

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/61479-1v1-terran-protoss-steppes-of-war

Okay here i get absolutely creamed, someone please tell me what im doing wrong? :(

Yes, just try to go mech with protoss, it does wonders. Sure, MMMG is the most popular vs protoss. But, man, those stalkers get creamed against siege tanks.
Beware of the immortals though, in general, the Protoss players won't "spam" these, but if you CLEARLY go full mech, he'll do it and you're kinda dead. Mix in ghosts or "transition back" to Bio, since he wouldn't have colossi :P

I am not a gold league player or anything but i play alot with my friends lately.
And one of them are really god with toss. Throwing the same tactic against me.

First i try to get some banshee's out harrasing his mineral line.
Second i go MMMG to take him out. If you meet alot of imortals... USE Reapers. Their weapon does not activate the shield to the imortal so it is perfect for countering imortals...
And if that does not work for you... Go mech with MMMG... Remember SIEGE TANKS... :D

It's immensely difficult to defend against a early 3 rax MM push as Protoss. Chances are that you'll either end the game right there, or force him to Forcefield himself in his base until hes got either Immortal/Colossus/VR. Use this advantage to take tower control + expand and the game should be yours if you counter whatever hes teching to.

I'm not a terran player, but maybe, just maybe, you could try, not just mmm?

Lol, just get tanks and ghost with copule of rines and viki, Its gg.

Me is plat.

just marauder rush and its gg...

I am in dire need of help!
I am in the Gold league for 1v1, i was at one point 1st in the gold league, but just overnight i have gone immensely crap!

I come up against Protoss and the only way i can defeat them recently is by getting lots of marines early game before he gets a Colossus.

I try going MMM, MMMG, MMM+Vikings and i have a good sized army but they always seem to go Stalkers (with other tier 1 units) & Colossi and it rips through my marines and Marauders like paper while the stalkers rip through my medivacs.

It is very hard to get a tactical advantage over my opponent with the vikings as they always keep the stalkers close by.

I scout Protoss players and see them going for this strategy and i just do not know what to do.

How do i counter this? I had lost 8 games in a row 1v1 and was on the edge of putting my fist through the monitor and throwing it around the room :P

In other words, you are saying

"Why cant I win all games with MMM?!"

I'm surprised that a tactic of getting Colossi even exists. After playing 40+ games in Gold League (as Terrans) I've seen Colossi 2-3 times.

Colossi have the biggest advantage against "light" units, so try to pull out your Marines when you see them. Or stim them up and focus fire ;) Besides, micro your Vikings better - their superior range means they can take out Colossi from beyond the cover of Stalkers.

i shall give meching a try :)
i see theres alot of people here with some resentment towards MMM terrans lol
Thanks for the advice guys.

Ghost, if you go full MM instead of MMM for your first push (make that transition later) then you should win. At that point, either he only has gateway units (not enough of them most likely) or rushed to get a colossus, which will get eaten by your marauders. Add ghosts to that and it really is lethal, only a good micro-player or someone that outplays you can win.

Go Marauder-heavy with CC for this, marines are just there as meat shields and extra damage.

I dont think mech is the way to go against toss, even if he has colossi. Just not enough mobility.

Focus on getting more marauders. Colossi can be easily sniped one by one if he has bad placement with them. Vikings are also crucial, you will want at least one starport with a reactor on it, and keep those vikings/medivacs coming. I personally like to use vikings to harass the colossi beforehand and keep an eye on his army as well. Vikings can cause some serious damage just by harassing the colossi, especially if you manage to find a position where he cant blink beneath them.

^ to continue the above post, or you can position your army so that when he blinks with his stalkers towards your Vikings, your army can fire on them and the Colossi will still be out of range, even more so if he pulled him back slightly.