StarCraft® II

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09/06/2012 15:29Posted by Kachinsky

rofl, why would someone even play terran in hots O_o

It has to be said the Terran changes are pitiful compared to Zerg and Protoss. I was probably gonna change race when HOTS comes out but that doesn't excuse uber-ing up the two other races at ones expense.

Zerg looks like its going to be so much fun to play.

Dunno why everyone is so inclined that Terrens the weakest race now. Not even beta but eh oh.

I managed to catch this while catching up with stream earlier, does anyone know if/when the TvP battle report starts? Assuming they've done one to show each non mirror match up

Dunno why everyone is so inclined that Terrens the weakest race now. Not even beta but eh oh.

I managed to catch this while catching up with stream earlier, does anyone know if/when the TvP battle report starts? Assuming they've done one to show each non mirror match up

You cant say its gonna be weakest race but these chagnes are most boring for Terran. You get bunch of a-moving mech units(i dont know if its true but warhound suppose to auto target mech units-ouch)

I'm so eager to see the TvP Battle Report it's going to be awesome..
Finally viable Terran Mech versus Protoss.

Ah Dassem my friend how are you feeling . . . . :P think I've trolled you enough with that psychological talk XD

Perhaps weakest race was not the correct way to state it, more accurate would maybe be just about every Terren player I've seen comment or directly spoke to seems more than dissatisfied with the upcoming changes to Terren including the new units.

My point remains I don't understand why this news has caused this reaction, at the moment most Terrens seem to be stating that there forced to 'play better' and outmicro there opponent in order to win games with no late game being viable in both Vs Protoss and Zerg.

The new units do not take away any of the bio options Terren have become used too but instead adds easier transitions into mech and gives some more situational counters to the problems Terren are having with these match ups. Also interestingly in the battle report a Thor was produced but it seemed normal sized and while there was only the one I think this was more because of what was happening in game rather than the 1 unit limit for a super Thor that was stated for HoTS. They probably have changed this but I've seen no official mention on this point (or totally missed it)

There is thread about it somewhere on TL where its stated that Thors are identical to ones in WoL in current build. And in that battle report if you look closely at unit built tab you can see 3 Thors at the same time.

Ah Dassem my friend how are you feeling . . . . :P think I've trolled you enough with that psychological talk XD

Perhaps weakest race was not the correct way to state it, more accurate would maybe be just about every Terren player I've seen comment or directly spoke to seems more than dissatisfied with the upcoming changes to Terren including the new units.

My point remains I don't understand why this news has caused this reaction, at the moment most Terrens seem to be stating that there forced to 'play better' and outmicro there opponent in order to win games with no late game being viable in both Vs Protoss and Zerg.

The new units do not take away any of the bio options Terren have become used too but instead adds easier transitions into mech and gives some more situational counters to the problems Terren are having with these match ups. Also interestingly in the battle report a Thor was produced but it seemed normal sized and while there was only the one I think this was more because of what was happening in game rather than the 1 unit limit for a super Thor that was stated for HoTS. They probably have changed this but I've seen no official mention on this point (or totally missed it)

Mech option for tvP looks good but from spectacor point of view Protoss and especially Zerg changes sound so much more fun. And Thor stays and warhound looses anti-air attack from what i know

That.. was a strange battle report.

The game seems to be completely changed. Tanks bad in TvZ, hydras good in TvZ!?

Regarding hots balance, it is impossible to tell how thing will turn out, there will be a lot of changes to balance things out.

However, one thing is already visible, and that is that terran still doesn't have late game.
Everything still revolves around terran actually doing enough damage just to be even in the late game.

That TvZ battle report showed basically the same thing as WoL.
Terran did good in early-mid stages, later with all those abduction and fast hydras and swarm host etc. he was just overrun.

It is hard to tell from that one game but it seamed like that mid game terran army is completely unfit to deal with late game zerg army. Tanks were completely useles with vipers bringing them to hydra range, ultras charge through everything etc.

I saw the videos and interview with Dustin and maybe I'm missing something but where is terran late game army?

That.. was a strange battle report.

The game seems to be completely changed. Tanks bad in TvZ, hydras good in TvZ!?

it's a "fixed" game.. maybe not in terms of who wins, but the players are intentionally doing stuff to show off the new units (which makes sense)

I doubt mass speed Hydra (Speedra?) is going to be that effective vs terran. Might be good vs protoss, when combined with abduct/fungal, I don't know