Topic WTF is up with PvP lately?
Mallerna #369
Mallerna
Every PvP I play just ends in the other player doing some sort of all-in, it´s redicules. I though protoss players were better than that... pathetic
Moonshadow #339
Moonshadow
You don't want late game pvp, trust me.
ThirdShock #267
ThirdShock
11/07/2012 13:16Posted by Mallerna
it´s redicules. I though protoss players were better than that...


Please tell me english is not your first language.
Canyarion #738
Canyarion
Sounds French, but I understand him.

Anyway, what kind of all-ins? Proxy 2Gate, Cannon Rush, Korean 4Gate, stuff like that? Or stuff you can't handle like Stargate builds, Byaka build...?
Brunch #470
Brunch
Edited by Pleurodesed on 11/07/12 14:36 (BST)
Sounds like the issue is you don't really have any solid build order.
Did you take a look at 3 stalker rush? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/3_Stalker_Rush_(vs._Protoss)
Mihai #507
Mihai
11/07/2012 13:16Posted by Mallerna
Every PvP I play just ends in the other player doing some sort of all-in, it´s redicules. I though protoss players were better than that... pathetic


hahahahhahahahaha better? than who? hahahahahahahaha

Oh please protoss players try allin me in PvP/ or any mu, I would love some free wins from you guys.
RashaN #821
RashaN
At least you don't have to play 1 hour long tank chess (even though finding another terran is a miracle these times)
Richard #109
Richard
11/07/2012 14:04Posted by Moonshadow
You don't want late game pvp, trust me.


Why not, I like colossi war.
RedSpy #391
RedSpy
PvP is such bulls**t the now. I use a stargate opening and force them to go all-in with their 1 base or to spend large amount of money on cannons and un-needed stalkers instead of colossus. I've also been trying to get a 3rd in PvP, which is a rare occurence. To me, it's simple...

1) Scout for enemy cheeses
2) Scout for enemy 4 Gate (Gas count, chrono boosts on Cybercore)
3) Check for some cheesy 1 base all-in

If non are coming, expand before your opponent and you should win. PvP is my worst match-up, but since I started treating it like a ZvP (Always staying +1 base then the enemy) I've been getting a few more wins :/. Just experiment, and learn how to scout for builds, it helps a lot in all match-ups, especially fragile ones like PvP.
Richard #109
Richard
You guys can try 3 Phoenix expand and pick up sentries if you can. It is not so simple to stop that.

I sometimes try 3 immortal, 3 void ray all in. It is kinda fun.

I don't see 1 base play are bad though. How about 1 base 111? The reason zerg does not do 1 base play anymore is because 2 base attack timing are basically the same as 1 base.

Every race has one base play in them. Ok, maybe not zerg but still, early attacks are part of the game anyway.

I normally do 3 gate timing and expand behind it. I think I will try gate robo gate in PvP or phoenix from now on. There are still quite a few fun build in PvP as well.
Moonshadow #339
Moonshadow
12/07/2012 09:13Posted by Richard
Why not, I like colossi war.


if he cries about All ins, he will surely cry when he loses because he has one less colossi and 4 more stalkers.

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