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@Ozzy:
Phoenix beats Void Rays cost for cost
They are also very easy to micro and make the VR lose charges due to target switching.

Phoenix = micro unit.
If you don't micro it properly, it will suck against everything.

@Moonshadow: if you start at the beginning making large numbers your enemies won't have workers to build the economy needed for several carriers/battlecruisers

@FatZergling: they are such killers against zerg, and theyr speed makes them so good with proper macro, if u also give them extra demage they will be crazily strong

@NEXUS: and remove move-attack, because that is.........weird....

@NEXUS: Yeah right... actually why don't we round it to 10dmg and 15 vs.light. much more easy to say. crap

@Drizzt: I wrote they should more damage to none light units so that they can handle better against vikings because phoenixes only defeat vikings because they are more durable and vikings actually do more damage and I wanted that to change.

@NEXUS: they should do 7damage and10vs.light.

@Moip: in the beggining they didnt have it and no one used them, now they can fire on the move, and a LITTLE bit more people use them

@ParsProToto: 20 dmg every 1,1 sec is not enough when mutas do 9 every 1,5? And phoenixes can shoot while moving even backwards so try this :p

@NONE: Ok, Phoenix are good vs. Mutas, but Zerg can spawn much more of them than any Protoss could. Furthermore, Mutas are just much more versatile.

@ParsProToto: 1 phoenix is able to beat 2,5 muta with chrono boost and 2 starports ( i usually have 1 starport and is far than enough) u can easilly beat all mutas with some microing. Dont forget about resource aspect phoenix is 150\100 and it beats 200\200. Zerg can spawn mutas fast but resources are also important. Generally when i play 2v2 and fight against zerg 1 starport and some phoenix and mutas are a history.

@NONE: so right, i get 6 phinii and hunt overlords and kill massive amuntd of drones, queens and every thing XD + you can get 6 phinii reall quick if you commit to air forces, so if you follow with void ray out of two gate you can also engage defended bases and kill alot faster... not to mention that you cause enough demage so u can bounce back, and go gateway or robo and still be alot ahead, cause your enemy zerg will be out droned, with no queens ans supply blocked.

@BrotherDeath: 4 Phoenixes = 600 minerals + 400 gas. 4 Stalkers = 500 minerals + 200 gas. Together this make 1100 Minerals and 600 Gas. 4 Void Rays = 1000 Minerals + 600 Gas. This means that it takes an extra 100 minerals to try to counter these, and then that counter fails and you lose. OVERPOWERED.

@BrotherDeath: are you really sure 4 Phoenix and 4 Stalker will loose against 4 Void rays ? Even with Blink and speed of Phoenix? I think as you in fact, but I want to be sure. I think Graviton beam would be good if it worked against flying too.

@ReluxOr: Didn't have Blink or speed upgrade, but I still think it's ridiculus that 8 units that are supposed to be strong vs. Void rays got knocked out by just 4 of them. It's not like Zerglins vs. Thors, either, Stalkers and Phoenixes are meant for small to medium groups, which is what they were in.

@ReluxOr:
If you heavily out-micro your opponent, you can maybe win 4 Void Rays with 8 Stalkers using Blink but not with 4 Stalkers + 4 Phoenixes, unless you happen to meet them in open ground with no possibility to charge on buildings. IMO Blizzard should categorize Void Ray as a light unit so that Phoenixes could make more damage against them. Generally in PvP Phoenix is next to useless.

@Turo: Yeh, that would work. Let me explain clearly; I have 4 Stalkers and 4 Phoenixes. My opponent had 4 Void Rays. We met at the edge of my base, with a sheer cliff between the two forces. He attacked my buildings, so I attack-moved my Stalkers and microed my Phoenixes. he vapourised my Stalkers and started on my Phoenixes. When I tried to move them away, he would simply switch to my buildings and continue to charge. I couldn't draw them away, and if I trid to meet them head-on, I would lose, despite the damage from my Stalkers. And even if I did win, I was skint, and he would just keep producing.

@BrotherDeath: I think that may be the problem. Void Rays do more damage to Amoured, especially when charged up. Stalkers have to get the first hit. I had 2 Stalkers take out a Void Ray, because they got the first shot and some micro. -- Probably you should have attacked with the Phoenixes first to draw fire and cause the Void Rays to lose charge and then bring Stalkers. Or just more Pheonixes than Stalkers.

@Likkan: not only mutalisks. Light are also: phoenixes, banshees, observers and ravens. + phoenixes are good against vikings and void rays altough they are not light. Graviton for pulling out strong units from game for while (u can shoot em if u have group of phoenixes) or simply destroying workers or light units.

@ReluxOr: i use pheonix on void rays an i think it works.

@ReluxOr: psi storm is not enough powerful for a 250 hp unit and archon has like 360 hp so its perfect target for void. Archon gives only 20 dmg every 1,75sec on voids so this and its large health pool will allow voids to charge up and destroy him. Phoenixes are good because they are the fastest crafts in the game and wont allow voids to charge up (speed and their low hp). Hit and run with them and voids are dead(maybye dmg is not high 2x 5 but they work good against voids)