Coffee With the Devs: Faction Favoritism

Coffee With the Devs: Faction Favoritism

One of our earliest design goals with World of Warcraft was to ensure a healthy rivalry between the Alliance and the Horde. Cross-faction communication was banned outright, even where it made little or no sense in the lore. Entire realms are dedicated to PvP. Battlegrounds and quest hubs feature prominent Alliance and Horde iconography. We want to foster a sense of factional pride, a real identity with your brothers and sisters in arms.

We want players to be proud of their faction, even at the expense of personal dignity. One time I was driving my wife home from dinner. She leaned out of the car window, threw the horns, and screamed “FOR THE HORDE!” at some dude who was standing outside the restaurant in his Horde hockey jersey. Poor guy probably forgot he was wearing it. We peeled off in a thick cloud of blue tire smoke, and I think we made him pee.

That’s what I’m talking about.

So when it comes to the game’s ongoing story developments, it’s no surprise that Alliance and Horde fans are “keeping score.” Maps and charts of territory gained and lost started showing up around the time the Cataclysm shook the world to its foundations. Southshore plagued? Taurajo burned? Oh no they didn’t!

Implicit amidst most of the grumbling from either side is the assumption that Blizzard should be fairly treating both factions. Then there’s the more explicit assumption: if one faction is losing ground, then Blizzard must be biased.

Are we?

It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad World. Of Warcraft.

Maybe we are. A quick survey of Azeroth’s history reveals that we’ve been punishing the Alliance for generations. Stormwind was razed by orcs back in Warcraft I. Then Lordaeron fell to the plague in Warcraft III, its inhabitants turned into a mindless mob of undead. High-elven allies were besieged by the scourge and had their city sacked and their source of power corrupted. (The survivors of both these atrocities found solace in the Horde.) The gnomish capital was irradiated. The dwarven kingdoms were shattered by a terrible civil war. I’m surprised there’s an Alliance left at all.

On the other hand, those humans got off easy -- at least they still have a planet. The orc homeworld was overrun with demons and obliterated. Almost the entire race was poisoned by demonic blood. By the end of Warcraft II, what little remained of the orc race was stranded on an alien world, defeated, sullen, weak, and locked away in human-controlled internment camps.

I’m sure glad we didn’t have orc forums back then! Imagine the outrage.

In truth, a historical account of the Warcraft universe reads like a war crimes trial. Empires topple, leaders are corrupted, populations are massacred, entire civilizations fall to ruin (often at their peak of power)… Warcraft is a dark place. Just ask the Draenei: We trashed their homeworld and tortured its last uncorrupted children for tens of thousands of years. We’re downright cruel. I’ve never met a more sadistic team of story folk.

Suffering is the gasoline that drives our story engine. Why is that?

The Hero Factory

Here at Blizzard, we often talk about what we’re trying to build with the fiction of the Warcraft universe. The phrase “Hero Factory” frequently comes up across all of our franchises. We want the players to feel like heroes.

The primordial soup that creates heroes never tastes of rainbows -- it’s a lumpy gumbo of suffering and evil. Heroes are born from darkness, because we desperately need someone to light the way.

It’s an unfair world that cries out for heroes. To bring order out of chaos and justice to the downtrodden is the hero’s call. Is it any wonder that Azeroth is an unfair place? It’s monstrously unfair. And it’s going to stay that way.

Of Story Arcs and Storied Orcs

We can guarantee an unfair and inequitable treatment of both factions for now and in the foreseeable future. This allows us to have richer long-term story arcs, another idea that we’ve been experimenting with since the build-up to Cataclysm. To see the factions ebb and flow as their leaders get embroiled in all manner of heroism or skullduggery is like a reward for long-time players.

Speaking of faction leaders, that’s one area where I think we can do better: Giving everyone a chance to interact with their heroes throughout the story. In creating this universe, I’ll admit that we at Blizzard often fall into a trap of thinking of our main characters as “world” characters and not individual faction characters.

For example, the events of the cataclysm put in motion some major story developments for Thrall, who’d been sitting relatively idle in Orgrimmar since the events of Warcraft III. He was forced to choose between his role as warchief and as a shaman who could potentially save the world. He set aside the warchief’s mantle and, with your help, he’ll play an instrumental role in bringing an end to Deathwing.

But there’s a price to pay. Thrall sacrificed something.

The Horde has gone through a story arc of its own, since the days when the ragged refugee orcs first stumbled onto the beaches of Kalimdor and decided to found a new capital. The Horde races have united and consolidated. The Forsaken, no longer tormented by the Lich King, have secured their borders. The tauren have settled a homeland. The Darkspear trolls, once on the brink of extinction thanks to murlocs (murlocs!), have rallied together and founded a capital. The blood elves have survived the destruction of their home, moved beyond the defection of their leader, and reclaimed the Sunwell. The Horde is absolutely ascendant.

And in this moment, as one of the most powerful groups of mortals on Azeroth seeks to define itself, Thrall is out of the picture. The Horde’s mission is being defined by Garrosh Hellscream. Thrall’s decision to leave him in charge is coming back to haunt him.

If you’re a die-hard Alliance player, I can understand if you feel left out of Thrall’s story arc. Thrall feels like “their guy,” and Thrall’s journey over the last couple of years may not feel like “your” story, even if his mistakes are about to send the whole world into a potential death spiral. Fair enough. Stick with Thrall as he fulfills his destiny at the end of Cataclysm, and I promise we’ll catch up with other characters -- from both factions -- as we pick up the pieces in the aftermath.

Garrosh Hellscream has a vision for the Horde, a vision of a united Kalimdor that can only be realized over the ashes of the Alliance. He’s craftier than any of his foes realize, and his grim determination to win at all costs -- even at the expense of his own people -- is plunging the world into chaos.

In the midst of this crisis, the Alliance is going to need to pull together like never before. At the BlizzCon lore panel we promised that key Alliance characters are going to get more time in the spotlight throughout Mists and the subsequent patches, and I wanted to reiterate that here. They’re going to come out of this stronger than ever, but the road ahead won’t be easy.

It’s going to get worse before it gets better. A lot worse. But that’s a good thing. It means we’re going to need a lot more heroes to bring justice to an unjust world. We’re going to need you to step up and reshape the world.

Just don’t expect a Happily Ever After. We just don’t do those here.

Dave “Fargo” Kosak is the lead quest designer for World of Warcraft. His job is to maintain the integrity of the Warcraft world and storyline through gameplay, while simultaneously chucking bear cubs onto trampolines. It’s a fine line, but he walks it with the unwavering deftness of a quarterback on one of those old vibrating Electric Football games.

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Solyna
Defias Brotherhood
Solyna
07/12/2011
make guild be able to tak over contest territories in az http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3061879370
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Böömrööker
Twilight's Hammer
Böömrööker
07/12/2011
Horde FTW nothing else to say :P
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Meradie
Darkmoon Faire
Meradie
06/12/2011
@demoknight
we rule u drool
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Shayeli
Moonglade
Shayeli
07/12/2011
@Meradie: In yer dreams
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Demoknight
Magtheridon
Demoknight
06/12/2011
Rule #1 of BGs and PvP:
If you're on the Horde team, the Alliance has an unfair advantage.
If you're on the Alliance team, the Horde has an unfair advantage.
Learn it, love it, live it, and deal with it.
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Adrénalín
The Maelstrom
Adrénalín
06/12/2011
just a shame that you guys thought so much about realm pvp pride....
then ruined it by introducing flying mounts
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Hellshout
Defias Brotherhood
Hellshout
05/12/2011
They have priorities with mages. Y U NO LOVE RETRIS ? ( caps intended, if you don't know visit 9gag )
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Rizep
Ravenholdt
Rizep
04/12/2011
Now make a post on regional favouritism. It's clear you have priorities with the US.
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Thomla
Ragnaros
Thomla
04/12/2011
For the Alliance!
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Vashion
Grim Batol
Vashion
02/12/2011
I'm pretty much for both.
I love to quest for both, to get all the storylines.
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Deathwiing
Grim Batol
Deathwiing
01/12/2011
FOR THE ALLIANCE !! :p
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Elvinrose
Terokkar
Elvinrose
30/11/2011
I think this is a clever piece of writing to stir up emotions between horde and alliance. He begins by explaining Blizz wants more hatred for each other than has previously.

Those from Vanilla days who regularly pvp-ed. Who will admit to recognising more of your opposing fraction names to your own. In fact I think I had more horde friends. All I seen of alliance in battlegrounds was arguing with each other.

The subtle mention of his wife shouting for the horde and the little bit about Thrall was all intentionally to get a reaction from the community in which he did a fine job. :-) Just my opinion btw.
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Kimlina
Defias Brotherhood
Kimlina
29/11/2011
ALLIANCE WIN
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Shortstops
Blade's Edge
Shortstops
29/11/2011
I know for a fact that Blizzard prefers alliance, humans to be precise. Look at the architecture and details on Stormwind versus Orgrimmar. Stormwind's size alone is larger than maybe 2.5 Orgimmars. They get their nice little rivers and matching houses and shops, a giant statue of the king, everything convenient and "perfect", a second Dalaran. Im sick of it, the game should be about equalness to all races!
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Konoka
Quel'Thalas
Konoka
29/11/2011
@Shortstops: @Shortstops: You got to be kidding me, Orgrimmar is awesome and has gotten a complete new look.
Stormwind has a park which is destroyed, a statue that's still not on its place and marks of Deathwing that are still burning.

Anyway you can have Stormwind if you want, as long you give us our lore as this is the major issue right now, the unfinished or skipped lore of the Alliance.
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Pegadora
The Sha'tar
Pegadora
29/11/2011
@Shortstops: Personally, Stormwind is what matches human style. Orgrimmar is what matches Orc style. See ? There horde players who arent happy with lore, locations and so on about horde. I wonder how on Loa's sake would be nice to have a city like stormwind as orc capital.
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Xandread
Grim Batol
Xandread
03/12/2011
I disagree mate. I played for the horde longest and recently switched to alliance because all my friends did so I've got no side in this matter really. But Orgrimmar has It's own "orcish beauty". You see the Orcs architecture is a whole lot different from humans, just like night elf's architecture is a whole lot different then tauren architecture.

Even though Orgrimmar aint large it ain't small either. I think It's a very handy city and in many ways It's more comfortable then Stormwind. Both cities are beautiful in their own way.
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Callandra
Laughing Skull
Callandra
06/12/2011
@Shortstops: It's only a game -.-
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Káyz
Tarren Mill
Káyz
29/11/2011
Guys this comments section is supposed to be discussing the article, not just some alliance vs horde slagging match. It's too easy for either side to say 'Oh the other faction is just full of kids, our team is much more mature' Because sorry, but that's BS. I've played WoW for years and played as both Horde and Ally. They both have kids, noobs, pros and whatever else, that's a fact so just leave player base out of the equation. I think it's pretty clear that there is a definite feeling that the Alliance is getting jipped at the moment, while aside from trolling you don't see many complaints that the Horde are worse off. I doubt Blizzard even take the time to read comments here - but if they ever did that's what they should find, not some flame war - take that to some other forum please.
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Lorthos
Argent Dawn
Lorthos
29/11/2011
To be honest if Metzen's head wasn't wedged firmly up Thrall's backside then these accusations would have no basis...
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Websters
Defias Brotherhood
Websters
29/11/2011
The problem is just that people don't care about the factions like they used to. Today, players fight almost exclusively in Battlegrounds, the same ones over and over again, without it having any effect on the actual game in any way. I had hoped that Tol Barad would've fixed some of that when it was realeased, but it turned out to be an instanced area far away from anywhere and has turned into the same thing all the other battlegrounds are. A grind with no real reason to cause these faction rivalry.
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@Websters: Where as i agree that at the end of an expansion, relevant battle areas such as Wintergrasp and Tol Barad should, at least at a lorewise standpoint be won by a faction or completely destroyed or something. But from a gameplay point you need to remember that battleground battles arent the same fight over and over again in lore. We as players just have the opportunety to "relive" the battle again and again. Lore wise there should be an outcome of a battle after a while of it being in the game tho.
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Svartulv
Magtheridon
Svartulv
29/11/2011
honor to the alliance!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Milkbottle
Quel'Thalas
Milkbottle
29/11/2011
@Svartulv: For the punching bags!
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Sassras
Azjol-Nerub
Sassras
29/11/2011
For the Alliance!!!!!!!!
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2 years of the Alliance then 3 of the Horde and now back to - For the Alliance! [=
I just always found cross-faction communication ban being senseless and annoying at times. Doesn't make any sense as anyone can make counter-faction toon and spam you anyways. [= I always miss the feature to tell the enemy player: prepare for a fair duel! Im that honest that i just cannot suddenly attack and leave him/her no chance. [= Communications between factions is the only thing i really miss in the PvP environment today.
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Mìra
Stormrage
Mìra
29/11/2011
So uhm, I'm lollin hard at these comments.
This is how I see it:

It's a game, a damn game = you like it? Good, play it otherwise quit.
You play alliance and QQ about horde being more interesting/whatever? Roll horde.
I personally started alliance like 4 months ago, after years of horde.
I enjoy it more than I ever did on horde.
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Yura
Quel'Thalas
Yura
29/11/2011
@Mìra: A game with 2 sides, why should i pay for a faction change to enjoy the game more ? Just because the devs couldn't be bothered to actually finish the alliance quests or just not skipping them on some occasions.
But yeh you right lets all just roll horde, why not a step further, lets just get rid of the alliance and make it a one side story.
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Mìra
Stormrage
Mìra
29/11/2011
@Yura: You could think that maybe people don't agree with you.
As I said, I enjoy the alliance more, even if the horde has epicimbaawsome1337 story/quests.
Even if blizzard sets faction change for free, i wouldn't change.
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Regenrole
Stormreaver
Regenrole
29/11/2011
FOR THE HORDE!!!

(and remember allys, its you people who make the alliance to what it is ;D )
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Beastlordius
Doomhammer
Beastlordius
29/11/2011
I'm playing wow for like, since it went on live. And ofc all other Warcraft parts. Well maybe the lore is a bit more favored on horde atm, but wasn't like that all the time. And if to check overall story, wasn't horde the one, who was suffering fromm allied invasions. The attitude from aliance was all the time like - if You are outsider, You must die, or never get in my sight. The horde was outcasts, they urged for help, but alliance just ignored it, and instead started to attack them. Anyone here ever saw Tales of The past III ? nice in-game movie, and who betrayed all, i think it wasn't horde. So kinda alliance have all the time urge to betray, had lack of morality. And also in WC3 if remember, the alliance betrayed high elves, and so they become what they are now. I'm not ally hater, but kinda of lore, i found horde with higher morality. Ok they don't look so nice as allys.
And no offence, but kinda feel that now on ally side is more childrens playing, so thats why the community is not so nice. Ofc horde have kinda ppl as well. And for those who will say I'm a horde, till middle of TBC was playing on alliance.
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Beastlordius
Doomhammer
Beastlordius
29/11/2011
@Beastlordius: and BTW about racials, doesent humans have the best pvp racial, plus nice racial for those who want to gain reputations fast ?
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Mildas
Defias Brotherhood
Mildas
29/11/2011
@Beastlordius: Agreed. The Alliance always struck me as the Knights of Good on a mission to eliminate all the savages of Azeroth - "We make the rules. If you don't hold up to them, you don't deserve to live in Azeroth. And learn to use a fork!"

The main theme of the Horde is honor and survival.
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Shoko
Quel'Thalas
Shoko
29/11/2011
@Beastlordius: Problem here is that blizz hasn't finished or simply just skipped alliance lore in this expansion. The worst part personally is the part you actually have to roll a char from the horde to get to know your own race lore...

Pvp has and is always been unbalanced, but is this a reason to screw up the lore of a faction?
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Steadyshot
Skullcrusher
Steadyshot
29/11/2011
US is going maintenance. EU is not yet. Why? You favor US Faction?

For The EU!
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Zvonko
Dragonblight
Zvonko
29/11/2011
Faction favoritism - not only devs are horde, but their families too. Lead quest designers wife yells "for the horde" when he drives her to work, 90% of this article was about horde ffs. Blizz likes horde more, it was always like that.
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Jinelle
Argent Dawn
Jinelle
09/12/2011
So because his wife plays horde and he mentioned that she yelled that at some guy with a horde T-shirt, suddenly 90% OF ARTICLE IS HORDE OMG BLIZZ ALL YOUR FAMILIES ROLLED HORDE AND YOU'RE ALL HORDE

I hope you're trolling. xD
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Phayu
Shadowsong
Phayu
29/11/2011
finnaly u horde loving scum are deciding to throw us scraps off the hordes table...tbh too little too l8t...wont be long after this something extra good will happen for horde again and well be back to having nothing to do but just do the dungeons and try for raid s while horde are off having fun on special horde stuff..oh tell u what will make it up though :D crappy horse mounts that dont even have saddles or armour or anything..yaye..-_-
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Wilbo
Balnazzar
Wilbo
29/11/2011
@Phayu: -_- ppl who act/!@#$% like this calling others "scum".....the irony.

Really, must ppl like this continue to be allowed to play? End up with a game where (this is what happened lastnight) HC HoO and a dps says "first HC can you help me out on tacs" and the healer just says "ffs noobs" n leaves after insulting the guy for not having played wow for years n years. This is a GAME for FUN and online to be SOCIAL with eachother plz plz plz quit the childish rage
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Enyalius
Darkspear
Enyalius
29/11/2011
In character
My fellow Alliance brothers, it is true we have suffered many hardships at the hands of the gods (Blizzard Devs) our brothers and sisters burned, killed and ripped from our arms and yet here we stand with sword and shield, mace and axe just waiting for the day we wipe horde from our mists and clean this world of there darkness and hate, the mud blood of the Orcs, Goblin, Blood elf, Tauren, Troll and forsaken will be washed away and the gods (Blizzard Devs) who have given them everything will finally kneel before our righteous heroes.

Remember my brothers heroes are born of darkness and suffering to lead the way to light and the true gods.

Out of character

What does it really matter guys, at the end of the day its a players skill that will prove the out come, the only people who will complain are those who are not skilled enough to over come the player they face.