Mists of Pandaria Buff and Debuff Design

We recently released an update to the Mists of Pandaria talent tree. Since the expansion is still in development, these updates represent a snapshot of where we are at any given moment and not a final design where we step back and say “Ladies and gentlemen, we have achieved perfection. Let us not change a thing.” If you’ve been playing the game for a while, you’ve probably realized by now that we never think we’ll hit perfection, and we probably never will.
One design that we haven’t focused on much yet is the plan for various group buffs and debuffs. Some specs have their buffs in place and some do not. Rather than trying to describe each omission, we thought we’d just dump the whole design on you here. As with the rest of the expansion’s systems, we’re not even in beta yet, so there’s plenty of time for things to change.
First, some underlying design goals, so you might understand where we’re coming from. Our main goals for group buffs are:
- Make you feel more powerful when grouped with other players.
- Give you lots of freedom to invite whom you want. This gets to be a problem when there are too many mandatory buffs spread out among too many specs. . .
- …But not offer too many incentives to class stack. If you can achieve every buff with, say, only three players, then there might be a tendency to fill all of the other slots with whoever is best for a particular situation. Some class stacking is inevitable at the cutting-edge level, but to some extent, the players on the cutting edge of raiding enjoy extreme min-maxing. For the rest of us, we try to make sure you can finish all of the encounters without feeling like you need a huge roster of folks waiting in the wings for their one fight.
- We tend to be more generous to DPS specs, since groups — especially raids — already have ample reasons to bring tanks and healers.
- We generally don’t want a DPS spec to have to switch to a different spec in the same role just to bring a different buff. An example would be a Combat rogue who has to go Assassination just for a buff. In our experience, players are less likely to switch from a ranged to a melee DPS spec just for a buff, so DPS shaman and DPS druids might bring different buffs.
And finally some notes on the categories below:
- The list only includes what we consider “traditional” buffs, such as Prayer of Fortitude. It doesn’t include utility like being great at snaring, battle rez, knock backs, high DPS while moving, and other mechanics. Those ultimately all factor into a raid or Battleground comp as well.
- The matrix is a little more complex than it appears. A paladin, for example, can only offer one Blessing at a time, while a warrior can only do one shout at a time. You can’t assume one character can cover every buff or debuff listed below at the same time.
- Some of these are active (you must cast them, like Prayer of Fortitude) while others are passive. Note that totems no longer bring passive buffs as a rule.
- You’ll see several categories consolidated or gone. Bleeds no longer made sense, since everyone who cared about bleeds already buffed themselves. Magical resistance we just removed from the game, though there are some abilities that provide magical damage reduction.
- We are still likely to use the design that hunters, especially Beastmaster hunters, can fill in for missing buffs or debuffs by using certain pets.
As always, we’d love to get your feedback on this design.
Buffs
Stats
Effect: +5% Strength, Agility, and Intellect
Example: Blessing of Kings
Brought by: Any druid, any monk, any paladin
Stamina
Effect: +10% Stamina
Example: Power Word: Fortitude
Brought by: Any priest, any warlock, any warrior
Attack Power
Effect: +10% melee and ranged attack power (which will be the same value again)
Example: Battle Shout
Brought by: Any death knight, any hunter, any warrior
Spell Power
Effect: +10% spell power (there will no longer be a 6% version)
Example: Arcane Brilliance
Brought by: Any mage, any shaman, any warlock
Haste
Effect: +10% melee and ranged haste
Example: Improved Icy Talons
Brought by: Frost and Unholy death knights, any rogue, Enhancement shaman
Spell Haste
Effect: +5% spell haste
Example: Moonkin Aura
Brought by: Balance druids, Shadow priests, Elemental shaman
Critical Strike
Effect: +5% ranged, melee, and spell critical chance
Example: Leader of the Pack
Brought by: Guardian and Feral druids, any hunter, any mage
Mastery
Effect: +5 mastery
Example: This is a new category
Brought by: Windwalker monks, any paladin, any shaman
Debuffs
Weakened Armor
Effect: -12% armor
Example: Sunder Armor
Brought by: Any druid, any rogue, any warrior
Physical Vulnerability
Effect: +4% physical damage taken
Example: Brittle Bones
Brought by: Frost and Unholy death knights, Retribution paladins, Arms and Fury warriors
Magic Vulnerability
Effect: +8% spell damage taken
Example: Curse of the Elements
Brought by: Any rogue, any warlock
Weakened Blows
Effect: -10% physical damage done
Example: Previously Demoralizing Shout; now Thunder Clap
Brought by: Blood death knight, Feral and Guardian druid, Brewmaster monk, Protection or Retribution paladin, any warrior (any tank)
Slow Casting
Effect: -30% casting speed
Example: Mind-numbing Poison
Brought by: Any death knight, any rogue, any warlock
Mortal Wounds
Effect: -25% healing received
Example: Mortal Strike
Brought by: Arms or Fury warrior, any rogue, any hunter
Greg “Ghostcrawler” Street is the lead systems designer for World of Warcraft. He was unsuccessful in convincing the rest of the class team to change Arms warrior mastery to decreased falling damage taken.

Daggerspine
Arathor
Shattered Halls
Nagrand
Darkmoon Faire
Stormrage
Draenor
Well, as you know we HoT healers tends to love the 5% spell haste, and sort our gear around just that. Now that you remove the spell haste from resto shaman and let only 3 dps specs give this, this is gong to hurt our healing a lot? Do you want us to build a 10 man raid around these 3 dps classes?
How is thes consistent with the intention with the upcomming changes?
Turalyon
Boulderfist
Boulderfist
Aerie Peak
With 11 classes now in the game ie 1 more than you can take in a 10 man seeing whos gona get nocked out is gona be intresting
Monk 1 any spec and 1 brewmaster
Death Knight 2 any spec, 2 for frost/unholy and 1 for Blood
Druid 2 any spec, 1 for Balance and 1 for Guarden/Feral
Hunter 3 any spec, though Beastmaster have in therey acces to all buffs/debuffs through there pets.
Mage 2 any spec,
Paladin 2 any spec, 1 retrt with Prot adding another to chose from
Priest 1 any spec and 1 for shadow speced
Rogue 1 buff!! but all 7 debuffs, probly poisons
Shaman 2 any spec and 1 for elemental, 1 for Enhancment.
Warlock 4 any spec (Curses?)
Warior 3 any spec 1 tank only 1 arms/fury
looks like a nice spead of buff/s debuffs
Aerie Peak
Darkmoon Faire
Trollbane
Nagrand
Eonar
comon i want my druid to stay as a hybrid not 2 different specs change back the talent tree like it was before: 100 choices with the classes no tree was the same.
crawler go with vacation and come back in like 5 year pls.
change back to TBC and give us the challenge.
and whats up with time challenge? are you insane?
it wont be any fun to go do dungeons take it away.
Burning Blade
Lightning's Blade
Bronze Dragonflight
Bronze Dragonflight
Sunstrider
Steamwheedle Cartel
Dragonblight
Vek'nilash
Aszune
Instead of spreading buffs about over everyone and making say 3 classes have the same buff, have classes keep their minor buffs like 5% haste on a boomkin for example and maybe do like 4 more Guild Levels where as we can cast the major buffs raid wide but only in a raid. Example:-
Guild Level 26 - Raid Wide: Fortitude, Grants the Whole raid +10% Stamina, cannot be used in Battle Grounds, Arenas, 5 mans, 5 man HC's or LFR.
Guild Level 27 - Raid Wide: Stats, Grants the Whole Raid +5% to all stats, Cannot be use in Battle Grounds, Arenas, 5 mans, 5 man HC's or LFR
and so on. I Think this would allow for small groups of raiders to be able to raid, like we has last week raiding, Where our Paladin didn't turn up our priest was ill and our mage went out. we were stuck with hunters and rogue filling places.
Like i say it's just an idea, not saying its a good one, just an idea.
Rather than reworking the whole who gets what buff System, just thought this might make it easier.
Darkmoon Faire
Aerie Peak
Trollbane
Steamwheedle Cartel
@Iasul "I agree. But I'm afraid this is necessary as the human race itself is dumbing down and they demand simplicity, which makes me sadder."
Quite Ironic there Iasul, your taking a blatantly simple approach on simplicity, condemning 6 billion people+ to the stupid bin, Speak for yourself mate>.> anything along these lines is not a constructive way of thought and whilst frustration at change is only natural, try to channel that frustration into some sort of constructive criticism. The new buffs and talents will require a beta test to fully asses their validity. On the subject of talents and simplicity, Blizzard will be removing many of the "Mandatory talents" from specs, what's the point of for example not taking stormstrike in the enhancement tree? Your DPS will suffer greatly... So why's it even an option? THAT is the simplicity that I'm talking about. Check this link to a video by Scchirp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J88emv0MFcM&feature=BFa&list=UUjlPM2gDZCybO9jJK4jhl9g&lf=plcp
This vid helped clear alot up for me at any rate.
Blade's Edge
Aerie Peak
Bronze Dragonflight
Bronze Dragonflight
Darkmoon Faire
Frostmane
+1 mad respect.
Ahn'Qiraj
Deathwing
Sylvanas
Stormreaver
Turalyon
Hunters will ofcourse get to raid, but i see a real possibility that we will be brought in on certain fights for the ocacional CC, or perhaps run speed. Unless we get som real goodies later, we are still only capable of one thing. DPS.
Why not introduce some additional Hero/Bloodlust like abilities that will make the true dps classes more wanted ?
Off the top of my head...
- Short damage imunity to the group
- Hunter pet off tanking. REAL control over the pet this time
- Group run speed for a short time
- "Cast on the go" for 30 sec.
- Resurection of a fellow player to replace pet, with extra abilities. (i would love to res the tank as my pet)
Lots of other fun stuff that can be done, please give the raid leader a reason to bring DPS