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Speaking as an achievement junkie that's more or less stopped alting after the toon reaches 85 because my paladin here has so many cool things to play with, I can't wait for this account wide thing to happen. I've relegated dozens of characters to being chore !@#$%s more or less because of the achievements I've earned on my paladin.

Making raid completion achievements account wide does a lot for easing tensions in guilds as well.

This idea FTW!!!

areana has made alot of vaid points, i feels mounts should not be any character can use a mount it gives extra reasons to go back and level alts, i like idea of binding them to account so you cand send them to other characters but would be better if they were level bound as well

i agree with Travimrspcat, but there are a few that i feel take too much grinding where you need alot of dailys to get items to unlock things i.e firelands that would be better if spread over account as you could level different characters and still get the overall items to unlock acheivment.
over all i think blizzard is on the right track but a lot of tweaking will be needed to make it just right.

i dont want to be rude - BUT some players do set pride to get certain achivements on every character - one is the "for the alliance" achivement. and battlemaster - reason i dont like it to be "account bound" is one thing is to be able to do an achivement on one character - another is to be able to do it on em all - or play the different class in same way as the one that earned the achivement, that the other chars will get "for free"
TBH i hate the idea - and feel abit like its "cheating" - i love the game - and yes it take alot of my time to play. but with this new system - i think ill get feed up faster, than with the "old" system - that every character have to earn their own achivement.
Honest words from a dedicated player

Sorry if I sound rude but I’m just being honest. I read a lot of comments lately. It seems many of those that “hate” the new system are the players that want to be able to customize their characters and game play. They don’t want to be forced into a single path and be the same as everyone else. They spend a lot of time and effort on alts not only their main. The ones that “love” the new system seem to be players that are more worried about a title or achievement then they are with actually playing the game.

What a joke. So now all you need is achievements, reps, pets and mounts on 1 character. Make an alt and put it in bgs as a bot to max level. Instant everything. No reason to even play wow anymore. With the expansion all you need to do is get the new achievements on 1 character then freeze your account until the next expansion and do the same. Instead of giving us more to work for and more reason to play, we have less. Great marketing idea.

Some players have played wow for a long time. I’m sure many players that have spent the time and effort to earn achievements on alts will be upset with this. That’s a bit disappointing to anyone that spent time on alts. So those that spent time and effort on alts basically wasted it. If the achievement system started as an account system it would be a big difference compared to changing it at this point.

There is a lot on gold spent and made on the ah on mounts and pets. That will all end. Players that had the same mount on multiple characters never seemed to complain until now when they spent tons on them (their choice), but now many are since anyone that bought it 1 time has it on all characters. I think the idea of having shared achievement based mounts is a great idea since most players won’t try to get the achievement a second time but not all mounts. Why not make mounts and pets bind to account or even bind when equipped so if it drops for an alt you can send it to your main or sell it? That way for rep mounts you only have to grind it 1 time then you can buy and mail them to your alts if you wish

Also no reason to ever go or do anything in EK, Kalmidor, Outland or Northrend, since you only need to do it 1 time. Those areas are empty anyways. And I’m sure any new players will be excited to start and realize that there is no one around to help them get achievements since everyone already has them. They will also have no reason to do old quests or raids since they will already have all the mounts or pets from their main. Why not add some new mounts, pets or achievements to the old content giving players a reason to return to some of those places?

And how am I going to want to play an alt more when I start a meta achievement on my main and I still need to finish it on that character to get credit? I’m not going to want to take an alt and get an achievement when it won’t count anyways. If I have all the world events done on 1 character what reason do I have to do them on any others if I already have credit for it? The world events seem to be a big part of the game right now. Will they just disappear when everyone completed them once? You talk about an account only achievement such as possibly level 90 on all classes. Are you planning on allowing more than 10 characters per realm? Or else who will be interested in this achievement since there will be 11 classes and only 10 spaces for characters.

They also say the new talents are to customize your characters more. How can I customize more with fewer options? Why not leave expanded talent trees and make it easier to change them if need be? Maybe you could make it like the glyphs are now. This leaves us many options to customize our characters.

When I lose all the achievement points on my alts to have an account value I earned on my main it will be time to find something else to do. Why would I wish to play an alt when they have nothing to work for? And for those of you that say “quit blizzard won’t even notice,” they will. You say quit because you see us as a single individual not as many. When its thousands or hundreds of thousands of individuals, they will notice. Gamers are usually loyal to the games they play. They don’t mind a few “let downs”. But when they quit and find something new to play they rarely leave their new game to go back to the old disappointment.

Why not do as some others commented? Make the new account system optional or better yet, open some new servers and allow transfers for those that want the new system. It seems to me that way you can please both sides instead of upsetting one of them.

If you don’t have time to grind achievements on alts because you have a family or friends then why cry about someone else that does? You say to someone “get a life” because they have more time for wow then you do. Sorry but it’s you that needs to get a life. When you’re spending time with family or friends and you worry about someone else playing wow instead of enjoying that time with others.

The pet battles are good idea. If you want to do it it’s another option, if you don’t then you can skip it. But do you really think those that play pokemon now, will buy wow and all the expansions and monthly fee to play the same thing they do now for a 1 time fee?
It does seem like they are “dumbing” the game for children with the new pokemon pet battles and Mario cart bgs. Both being ok since they are optional. Good luck getting all those new kids to play in this wonderful world economy. W

Its very nice idea idd.After all whats the point making an achievement on one character and puff its gone when you start a new one?And for people worried about people would suck more because they earned an achievement with another char,well if your guilds/raids only keep people based on their achievement points,(dunno if there is any but thats what people whine about) thats bound to fail anyway.Haters still gonna hate but I think this all concept is great idea.I only have one concern however,if this will be done in perfection?or there will be problems like in first release of d3?(remember the achieves gone after some 'rollback' or something?).Beside that I am pretty poped up about the idea.

I love the idea of achie sharing. I love getting achies, but i dont have the time to get them on all of my characters. So to get a lot of achies points i stick to only one character. Now they get shared i will switch alts more and enjoy playing all my alts again, without losing achie points on my main. The fun of trying to get all the achievements will stay, but it will get more fun now i can choose on what alt to get them.

I have a question about the reputation part of this and associated recipes. My main character has the reputations to buy any recipe in the game. Do I need to grind the rep to be able to purchase the recipes on my alts or do they get their reputations put up to exalted ?

A much needed change, I can't wait to have my rogues PvP achievements and rep with the League of Arathor shared with my other characters.
And why would this make things easier? You still need to put the same amount of time in to get the achievement; the only thing changing is that players with multiple characters they love won't be penalised (ie. Having to grind the same rep multiple times)

I hope bliz just go ahead with it and don't listen to the haters...

for the people who did earn those "brutal achievements" making them account bound now has taken some of the achievement away. the difference with D3 and this is D3 was from start and this will be after people have already earned the achievements the hard way, this has to be carefuly done

I Feel quite happy about the mount part. Im really close on a lot of mount achivs on diffrent chars and its been really annoying just grinding it once at the 'main' that i have at that moment (I change main a lot) so if you complete achiv on one character to get the mount on all Personally I would love it. But I do agree one should reach a level appropriate 'unlock' for example mounts and some titles. explorer for example is quite an easy title, it only takes a bit of time. tough titles like destroyers end,firelord,starcaller and so on. If its lvl 60-70-80-85-90 that it is appropriate to gain it at that level on the alts. there is more to it than that ofc but it would ber awesome if they did the achivment account-sharing. But that's just my personal opinion.

Seems to be mixed feelings about this, and understandably so. I like the way ach's will be shared, but as Blizz say, if you re-run content on an alt that hasnt got the ach (even though your main has) you will still get the flashy ach status on your screen and in guild ect for all to see. However, i think that if an ach is linked from an alt showing off your mains progress when LF raid, it should say something along the lines of "Alt of Hansmight" in my case or something similar.

I gota say after reading 100+ posts i think some people are complete morons that do not quite grasp the idea behind this.

I imagine the achievments will work similiar to how they are in D3(for anyone thats played it they will know what im talking about). What is the point in getting so many achiements/points on one character and then getting/try to get them again on another. While very few people that have alot of time on their hands may find that odley fun, its redundant.

Try looking at it this way - Achievments will be(for the most part) attched to your battle.net account instead of one character, with numerous ones that will be specific to a particular character. Either being class specific or just have to be fulfilled on a sole character.

People moaning that this change with account-wide points makes the game easier...How??? Dose it make it easier to get them all? i can asure you it wont. Why? Because imo account-wide means new and more interesting types of achievments to go for and obtain. Easy example "Kill all boss's in (insert raid name) with each class". And im sure there will be many achievments that require you to do something on more than 1 character to obtain it.

And some people said about how much content completed and experiance gained on on any given class. Mostly aimed at raiding i assume. Time and time again its been said, people gain achievments while facepalming the floor on a boss. Dose it really prove they know what there doing? That said some achievments do require a bit more of a tatical approach like rolling deathwing in a certain order. But come on, how hard is it to run right or run left into a hole...

All in all if they are going the way i think they are with this then it is going to be an awsome adjustment to the system with a hell of alot of potential.

I really like this idea, all my years of grinding on old characters will come to front on new ones

achievement point show how much content and experience a character has, if you give achievements to a charachter that didnt earn them how does the player base know this player can actually play that character? so far because of lfr most of the player base think they can raid as long as tactics arent involved. can we have more content in wow please? even if my alts have all my mains achi points i still wont play them more as the challenge has gone.

I think we should have some things like cooking,fishing and first aid but all alts are different thats why we have them that means some will be able to achieve things that the others will not and that is false rep and could put a raid at risk and yes I have a bissy life too. we need to be verry carefull how far we allow this to go. so please think long and hard first

sweet so if i fix ashes of alar on one char every one get it what a rare pet it will become if every one that got it gets it on all chars they got sounds legit

I think this is going to be a great new thing in wow as i wanted netherwings badly so i did dailys for ATLEAST a month and spent alot of my gold on them and am not going to do it again, so in mop finally all characters will get them , i have also tried the beta mop and its great (way more to do and more choises for your characters).

I really dont like the idea of all achis going acc wide.
Ok, let glory achis go acc wide, same goes for battlemaster, arena master, chef and so on.
Dont give every alt achi for fx Blackhorn HC or 2k 5v5 rating. They should be char bound.
Or is it your plan to have new dinged alt to run around with Glad title or savior of Azeroth?
I really feel that achi points is a single char thing. Shows that you have used time and effort into getting that many as one class.
Again if u have made some achis on one of your chars dosent show that you can do it as another class.
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I'm on both sides of this.. For one i can understand the anger the 'elitists' have.. And that is because they WANT the game to be more difficult more challenging because they know that they have the time to play it every day.. But there are ALOT more people like me who like to play some days of the week not MOST,, i think it is a good idea overall but it needs quite a few tweaks if it is to suit everyones needs.. Good Work (: <3

Basically you are meant to be ADDING things to do in game.. not take them away! I like farming pets and mounts on each char.. it gives me something to do with my fiends when not raiding.. Now we have lost rep grinding and pet and mount collecting.. because ONE of our chars has them.. complete fail.. Like I said.. ones that can be bought from vendors.. fine.. but drops..? nowai.. Anything that takes effort should be rewarded to the char.. not given for free.. Wake up and smell the coffe GSC with things like this.. the player base will change for the worse each year, as they will EXPECT everything for little to no effort..

Sounds like a lot of bad with a tiny bit of good imo.. I like earning my achevs.. And I do not agree that some of those things should be account wide.. I dont want my chars to automatically have 'Destroyers End', I want them to earn it.. Just becuase I know what to do in one fight as melee doesnt mean I know what to do as ranged..

And sharing 2500 daily quests and HKs is just stupid.. I mean I dont do much PvP and that annoys the hell outta me.. so I imagine it wil lREALLY annoy people that do pvp alot.. I dont want to get Big achevs like 'Long strange trip' becuase my rogue has x amount done, my mage has x amount done , my priest has another x amount.. and combined it makes the whole.. that is just rubbish.. Please for the love of all that is still good in this game.. LEAVE some things to still feel like they have been accomplished and earned..
Sure certain pets and mounts.. share them, for sure why not.. But then other ones nope I dont think so.. I think certain special mounts should be character specific only..
If you really do insist on making this hodgepodge of a mess of achevs at least let the player turn it on and off..

can't we also have shared levels?
oh and how about shared gear?
and shared reputations?
shared proffesions?
please make this happen I don't want to level up proffesions anymore, make it happen

I'm sorry but making the achievement 250k kills account wide is sheer crap just so players can run around with the Bloodthirsty title,make them work for it,bring back the system where you had to work for the titles each week so that your honor points lowered if you did not play pvp not make it even easier for the wannabe's out there that do not deserve the items or titles!!!!

i like this,like my main was a hunter but i stoped playing her now this is my main and i dont have to do all the achievs again :) + from me blizz keep it up

Sharing Non-combat pets? For me ok!
Sharing Mounts? Np!
Sharing Achievements? WTF?
If I get bored on this char, then I swap to an other to get it faster and maybe better.
Sharing TABARDS? How do I need to get my Tabards If they are on my Alliance Char?! Does ALL of my chars get the same tabards? Oh Dear bags :S!
And Titles? That's why I tried to get the ach on them all!

Next year 2013 will only a few ppl do Noble Garden. In 2014 will NOONE do Noble Garden...
Dees looks to Blizzard and covers her head with her palm.

may I plz get my golds back from buying all the mounts on different characters? its unfair that u get travler's tundra or maby sandstone drake on all characters if u got it on one, while me for an example, got both on almoust all characters :/ where will my compansasion be? im cool with the pets even tho I bought many on different chars, cause of the pet system, but mounts also. well, the mounts that where rare, issnt anymore!!! with account wide achive I hope we can get more achive to work with!! or its get all achive and wait for raiding 12 hours a week:/ untill the next patch where we get few more for completing a dungeon or so... hillerious how easy wow is getting!