The Future of PvP in Mists of Pandaria

The Future of PvP in Mists of Pandaria

With the Mists of Pandaria beta in full swing we thought we’d take this opportunity to shed some light on what lays ahead for PvP. To that end, we sat down with World of Warcraft Game Director Tom Chilton to discuss the future of PvP in Mists of Pandaria.

What is the overarching design philosophy for PvP in Mists of Pandaria?

Tom Chilton - We want to have more new PvP content than we’ve ever had before. With this expansion we’re adding two completely new Battlegrounds with new gameplay types. We’ve never done that before at the start of an expansion. We also have a new Arena to add to the current pool of options. That will bring our count of Battlegrounds up to ten and our Arena count to six.


Temple of Kot'mogu - Who's got the relic now?

How is the war being brought back to World of Warcraft in relation to PvP?

Tom Chilton - Well, the best answer to that is that we’re very deliberately trying to get people back out into the world, and so that means on a PvP realm, you’ll have more people to kill that are out in the world. Generally speaking, the most fun outdoor PvP is just the spontaneous conflict that happens as a natural result of people being out in the world. It’s not the stuff the designers create for you. 

Many players on PvE realms are concerned about being forced to PvP or take part in World PvP when they don’t want to, what can you say to them about the plans for this?

Tom Chilton - There are no plans to force PvP on players who are on PvE realms. Their experience shouldn’t change and they’ll have the same opportunities for PvP (if they wish to take part) as they do now. It’s also worth noting that the Black Market Auction House has the potential to become a world PvP location for those on PvP realms. Just like the name implies, these are goods being sold out in shady locations away from the prying eyes of guards in the cities. They are not in neutral or safe zones. For PvE realms, it’s not going to have that same risk for placing a bid as on a PvP realm (aside from being outbid).


Temple of Kotmogu - Plenty of room to run and run and run.

On the other hand, PvPers are afraid that things won’t be taken far enough and they won’t get the world PvP they want; they often mention the issue of guards in major cities hampering their ability to do these raids. What could you say about that?

Tom Chilton - We know that for many PvPers, the idea of getting a large raid (or two) together to invade a city is something that can make for great world PvP. We also know that there has been an issue with guards causing this to be a less appealing undertaking for them as the guards have gotten stronger. We obviously want those guards there doing their jobs, but we don’t want them to be the wall that you just can’t get over. So, we are planning to adjust the guards only on PvP realms to where they aren’t quite as strong as you’d find them on a PvE realm, and they won’t respawn quite as quickly either. We’re still working on this, but we hope to get this adjustment in before the release of Mists of Pandaria. It’s worth noting that the guards on PvE realms will remain the same as they are now.


Temple of Kotmogu- One of four artifacts in Temple of Kotmogu

How is it possible to make it different between the realm types when it wasn’t in the past?

Tom Chilton - The difference is in the available technology that we have now that we didn’t have in the past. As the game has evolved over the years, so has technology and our capability to find ways to implement that new technology that makes our ideas of “what if” or “wouldn’t it be cool” become reality. With the change to the guards, we think that could be a real game changer for those that really like the idea of raiding cities or areas and holding them against the “enemy”. Beyond that though, there isn’t really a difference, but with the new daily quest hubs, it should prove to be a real hotspot for PvP on a regular basis.


Silvershard Mine - Which switch is which?

Will there be bigger changes between PvP and PvE realms in the future?

Tom Chilton - It’s always a possibility. We want to see how things go with these changes first. We don’t want to promise any big plans at this point in time, but we are always thinking of ways we can add to the experience where we can.


Silvershard Mine - Up or down?

What about the general idea that there aren’t enough people out in the world to even engage in PvP?

Tom Chilton - The new Cross-Realm Zones technology that we introduced recently in the beta should also help make sure more world PvP happen.


Silvershard Mine - Almost there...

What about the use of flying mounts? Many players are concerned about the use of flying mounts to avoid having to ever engage in PvP on PvP realms.

Tom Chilton - We know this is a concern and we have some things in mind for helping in this regard. First, we’re limiting the use of flying mounts within Mists of Pandaria to level 90. Second, with so many players taking part in the quest hubs, we think we’ll see a lot more PvP happening out in the world. After all, you have to land sometime. If that’s not enough though, we have an item that we’re adding to the game that players will be able to use from the ground that makes it possible to dismount a flying enemy player (within a reasonable range and PvP flagged). We’re still discussing the particulars of how this item will be available.

Will there be a Wintergrasp or Tol Barad for Mists of Pandaria?

Tom Chilton - No. We’re deliberately trying to get people out into the world and these areas ended up being more like instanced areas than World PvP. We don’t want to create another one and have it result in the same sort of gameplay. With that being said though, we’ve instead moved the bosses you would have found within an instance like Baradin Hold out into the world. We think the allure of a boss kill is a great impetus to go out into the world and engage in PvP.

Battlegrounds

Warsong Gulch

Ashenvale Forest

Arathi Basin

Arathi Highlands

Alterac Valley

Hillsbrad

Eye of the Storm

Netherstorm

Strand of the Ancients

Dragonblight

Isle of Conquest

NW of Sholazar Basin
W of Icecrown

Battle for Gilneas

Gilneas

Twin Peaks

Twilight Highlands

Silvershard Mine

Stranglethorn Vale

Temple of Kotmogu

Vale of Eternal Blossoms

Could you recap the new battlegrounds that are being added? What new gameplay styles do the two new Battlegrounds have to offer players?

Tom Chilton - We have two new Battlegrounds that we’ve talked about before, each featuring a completely new type of gameplay that we haven’t had available before.

The design of the Silvershard Mine hasn’t really changed since we last discussed it at our Mists of Pandaria media event. Players essentially escort one of several mining carts to a depot to score points. Strategic locations will feature switches that allow you to change tracks. The more people you have helping out, the better, though you’re going to want to stop or at least stall the other team from getting their carts into a depot as well.

For our other Battleground, Temple of Kotmogu, we’ve made some slight changes since we last talked about it at the event. We did some internal testing with just one artifact and discovered that the gameplay devolved into a sort of deathmatch in the center of the map. So we didn’t just double the amount of artifacts that were in play, we quadrupled it and ended up with four artifacts at different spots that could be used to score points. You’ll still score the most points for staying in the center area of the of the field of battle, but there’s a lot more going on with four artifacts to keep track of and hand off to your team.

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Tol'vir Proving Grounds - Three is the number

Is the way we queue for Battlegrounds changing at all?

Tom Chilton - Yes, we’re adding a way for players to down-vote two Battlegrounds that they don’t want to see show up when queuing for random Battlegrounds. The exception to this is if it’s the Battleground featured with Call to Arms. You won’t be able to down-vote those when they happen, but this should make it so that it’s less likely you’ll be taking part in a Battleground that you don’t particularly enjoy. It should also help make it more likely that when a particular Battleground comes up on the Call to Arms, you may be able to enjoy it more. We’re also changing the way Call to Arms works so that there will always be a Call to Arms Battleground available. This will allow us to cycle through a larger amount of Battlegrounds on a regular basis.

When will players get to try out the new Battlegrounds for themselves?

Tom Chilton - We’re hoping to have these new battlegrounds in the beta for everyone to play within the next couple of weeks or so. We’re looking forward to getting everyone’s feedback and seeing how they play out with a larger test audience.


Tol'vir Proving Grounds- A peaceful aerial view

Arenas

Circle of Blood

Blades Edge Mountains

Ring of Trials

Nagrand

Ruins of Lordaeron

Tirisfal Glades

Dalaran Arena

Underbelly of Dalaran

Ring of Valor

Orgrimmar

Tol’vir Proving Grounds

Uldum

Is anything changing with Arenas?

Tom Chilton - Yes, actually. Players will be able to see their opponent’s class and specialization before the match begins. They won’t be able to see the specific talent choices or glyphs being used, however. From there, it’s a bit like playing poker. You won’t know what exact abilities your opponent is using, but you’ll be able to modify your own talents in the staging area before the match starts to try to anticipate what they could be using.


Tol'vir Proving Grounds - Are you worthy?

Is anything changing with Rated Battlegrounds?

Tom Chilton - We don’t have any changes planned for Rated Battlegrounds at this time, though we may at some point in the future decide to add in the newest Battlegrounds, Silvershard Mine and Temple of Kotmogu.

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Tomiza
Runetotem
Tomiza
23/06/2012
Change is good, but some things only work for a limited time ... Wintergrasp and Baradin are like ghost towns often with a solitary player and no enemy
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Holyspartan
Kul Tiras
Holyspartan
24/06/2012
Wintergrasp is dead but baradin has a few people running around..
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Flurryo
Aegwynn
Flurryo
22/06/2012
Bring back ARENA SKIRMISHES !!!

Don´t u guys realize that´s also how a lot of ppl get into Arena?
And its an great way to keep up practice if you´ve no active team or you do have one, and just want to play Arena withour leaving a Team!!!

How hard can it be???
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Flurryo
Aegwynn
Flurryo
22/06/2012
BRING BACK ARENA SKIRMISHES !!!
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Kryuso
Khadgar
Kryuso
22/06/2012
Looks pretty good, but no mention of skirmish arenas?
Seriously?
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Zerila
Ragnaros
Zerila
22/06/2012
Love it =)
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Jokiring
Jaedenar
Jokiring
22/06/2012
i like this game
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Argonil
Stormscale
Argonil
21/06/2012
100 bucks says this will end in failure. I don't like the dismounting idea, and I think there's gonna be TOO MUCH world PvP, even though I like it. It'll probably be so that you can't have a moment of peace. And at the Black Market... No one will be able to use it, ever, because of gankers and crap.

I'll quit WoW as soon as my annual pass expires on October 31st.
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Caspiar
Vek'nilash
Caspiar
22/06/2012
@Argonil: dont cry dude, its a good idea i have played since vanilla and world pvp is broken and has been for a long time they are just trying to bring it back.
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@Argonil:
Good luck to you.
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Zlatina
Dentarg
Zlatina
23/06/2012
@Argonil: You will be back. /Terminator voice.
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Zhindraz
Frostmane
Zhindraz
21/06/2012
Still waiting for blizz to go with PvP servers=100% pvp Flag.

Whats the point of a pvp server if every player flies 100miles above the ground and when they land they aint pvp flagged?
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Forevermerc
Emerald Dream
Forevermerc
21/06/2012
I personally love this idea, as a PvPer on a PvE realm, this increased the temptation to transfer to a PvP realm to add excitement and danger to daily routine. Big thumbs up to Blizz on this one!
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Noobyman
Darkspear
Noobyman
21/06/2012
Look goods with the nice idea of bringing back areas across wow and turning them into pvp arenas/bgs
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Neraldus
Nordrassil
Neraldus
21/06/2012
looks good :)
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Ashiki
Outland
Ashiki
21/06/2012
cool
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Yessbox
Stormreaver
Yessbox
20/06/2012
najs meaby play that on 85 :)
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Deathamok
Moonglade
Deathamok
20/06/2012
ja pvp
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Sweet, so i just place a bid on The Black Market AH on a pvp server then camp with my guild there untill its mine? Problem?
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Erindor
Trollbane
Erindor
20/06/2012
beware blizz make that dissmount spell a cast so we dont got palas flying up and dissmounting followed by a Bubble
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Kharuum
Frostmane
Kharuum
20/06/2012
The mine is basicly "Escort a wagon"?

Alright, PvP Healers and PvP Tanks time has come! Aslong as you stay alive near the wagon, you win!
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Voyger
Runetotem
Voyger
20/06/2012
looking forward to this!
@Tmdf: i agree completly with your arguments about pvp gear progresion , plus this would also prevent people doing heroics and raids (especially people trying to tank) in high ilvl pvp gear !
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seems good changes are coming
but i realy concern about " how we get pvp gear"
in cataclysm you would take pvp gear for bg's and normal arenas and u do not need any personal or team rating to get normal gear so u see alot of ppl who have normal pvp gear just with lucky wins in arenas or even worse, winning bg'
i hope blizzard try to make a way to stop ppl who have no xp in rated battlegrounds or arenas to get pvp items. c'mon it must be harder than this...like before...!!!
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@Tmdf:
I like BGs only dislike arena cos I am solo player. skirmishes was good. So how could I get pvp gear ?
I dont mind making 50000 kills as long as I get what I want.
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Darkrizk
Kazzak
Darkrizk
20/06/2012
That's so exciting! I started World of Warcraft 4 weeks ago now I am level 81. so by the time MoP gets released I will be ready to get it! But please release it before summer ends. Otherwise I will have a university to attend.
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@Darkrizk:
What u need Uni for if u got WOW.
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Exadisoul
Grim Batol
Exadisoul
29/06/2012
@Rgim: Yes, lets all quit our jobs and let the world slip into an economic disaster, just so we can play WoW :D
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Dirtycop
Lightbringer
Dirtycop
19/06/2012
It's really exiciting to hear the changes.. but i have one concern thou..
i play wow for almost 2 to 3years now, and my play style is mostly PVP and i love BG's.. but the issue is i can get only to certain gear level with BG PVP, as i love to play on my own rather than with partners.. because that is me...WOW is forcing ARENA or Valor (Dungeon) points for good PVP gears.

It would be more exiciting to see random arena matched and random raids so that people do play alone can get good gears and enjoy PVP.. and please do not force people to get partners or groups to get good gears and that is not a fair game.

Thanks.
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Lorfond
Vek'nilash
Lorfond
19/06/2012
@Dirtycop: You already get conquest points for winning bgs...
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ßooze
Magtheridon
ßooze
20/06/2012
@Lorfond: I agree absolutely with Dirtycop.Is that 100 or 50 Conquestpoint really enough for you Lorfond?!Sometimes a Battleground takes 20 mins or even more...In my case I don't have that much time getting the full Conquest set.It'd be the best to be able to earn these points,without waiting for someone else to come online,joining your Arena team.Anyway I can't wait to try the new Battlegrounds.
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@ßooze: but note this my frnd: if there be a way that let u earn conquest ints alone, wow will become a solo game and nobody will play it like it used to be!!!
so i beleave it must be hard and harder to earn conquests but not immposibble :-)
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@Tmdf: Why is it wrong to be solo player?
Are u one of this !@#$%ers who cant enjoy game alone?
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Desiré
Saurfang
Desiré
27/06/2012
@Rgim: What do you expect , he is playing a discipline priest ofc he likes team play and running behind from others , cant live without being under others shadow.
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Buldoza
Ragnaros
Buldoza
19/06/2012
Please make 5 vs 5 mini BGs!
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Hailstórm
Aszune
Hailstórm
19/06/2012
sooooo erm when do you start sorting class ballances out? :D you could add 5000 new bgs and arenas more world pvp but it dosent change the fact that people are going to get utterly facerolled because there class has been nerfed out the sky against a class thats been buffed stupidly, the thing i hear the most pvpers complaining about is simply there fed up of unballance in the game
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Letmebee
Xavius
Letmebee
18/06/2012
I WANT WINTERGRASP BACK !! make it able for lvl 90 to play upgrade guards and walls ect...TB is sh..... wintergrasp whas fun part in the wow game
all those old battle fields are now banned and no one play them any more make them able to play again for now its an empty space in the game wasting GB on your pc too :P pls!! wintergasp :P
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Broggak
Earthen Ring
Broggak
19/06/2012
@Letmebee: Wintergrasp is just free HP at the moment so yeah I would like to see an updated winter grasp, or maybe a zone like it but for level capped people, uninstaced of course.
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Unßreakaßle
Kazzak
Unßreakaßle
18/06/2012
baradin hold bosses out into the world: great job. But pleaze remove guards from citys, and make vendors friendly. Honor gained from outdoor pvp is higher than a bg, must be a good idea.
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Cowkin
Wildhammer
Cowkin
18/06/2012
I think this shud be great!!
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Jproudmoore
Grim Batol
Jproudmoore
18/06/2012
Why not make mounted combat a thing, even on flying mounts. If everybody can fly, attack and risk getting dismounted, people will be more on the ground to not risk falling to their deaths.