Patch 5.2 Class Reviews – Part Two

Patch 5.2 Class Reviews – Part Two

This is part two of our series discussing the class changes we’re implementing in patch 5.2. Stay up to date on all the incoming class changes by reviewing the 5.2 patch notes and reading the other parts of the series:

Part 1 – Death Knight, Druid, and Hunter

We don’t alter classes lightly, and every change comes only after a great deal of player feedback, developer thought, and careful analysis. We also know that while class changes can help keep things fresh, they can also mean that there’s a need to re-learn things about your character that you thought you already knew. We want to make this process clearer, more understandable, and easier to adapt to as we move into patch 5.2, so I’ll be working with World of Warcraft Lead Systems Designer Greg “Ghostcrawler” Street to write a short blog series that will provide an overview of the important changes coming to each class.

Many of the 5.2 patch notes fall into two main categories: balance tuning and talent adjustments. Unless we called out a specific reason otherwise, you can assume that the various +10% or -10% adjustments you’ll see in the patch notes were made to keep all of the specs where we want them in 5.2. In some cases these are changes to reflect the different environment in 5.2 with new gear and set bonuses. In other cases, we are correcting issues we found in patch 5.1.

In terms of talent adjustments, while we’re still happy overall with the Mists of Pandaria talent overhaul, we do recognize that there were some talents that weren’t tuned as well as they could be or just weren’t attractive. That’s not to say that all talents should be all things to all players all the time; some talents are situationally quite attractive, and we’re happy with those. On the other hand, others just never see much use and we would rather provide players real options for each talent tier.

Note: The purpose of these blogs is mostly to provide an overview of the design intentions behind our 5.2 changes, rather than to detail the thought process behind every individual note. You can refer to the patch notes for specific changes and numbers.

 

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We set out to accomplish a few goals with Mages:

  • Despite various adjustments along the way, Frost Mages are still too powerful in PvP and not quite competitive in PvE.
  • Our changes to Arcane in patch 5.1 overshot the mark and also needed some changes.
  • While we wanted to make some less attractive talents more attractive, we also weren’t satisfied with the Mage talent tree.

There are a few changes to Frost in PvP. First, the PvP set bonus only lowers the cooldown of Counterspell when it is successfully used as an interrupt, not as a silence. As we’ve said before, we think silences are too dominant in PvP, but we don’t think patch 5.2 is the right time to remove them all because we can’t also remove all of the instant heals in PvP. We like the Counterspell change because it rewards skilled play. We also made a change to the way Ring of Frost works with Presence of Mind. Rather than making the Ring of Frost instantly apply, the PoM only makes the cast time instant—the Ring still needs to arm for two seconds before freezing the unfortunates standing on it. Most significantly, we redesigned the Glyph of Fireblast to no longer allow it to detonate Frost Bomb on demand; instead it will require some timing on the part of the player. We’re boosting Frost’s PvE performance via Frostbolt, which requires a spell cast (which means the Mage must stand still and risks Frost lock), and also has a stacking debuff to really maximize damage.

We had two problems we wanted to solve with Arcane. The first was that Scorch was never intended to be rotational for Arcane to avoid having to dump stacks of Arcane Charges. Arcane is intended to build up charges but then dump them when the mana drain gets too high, but Scorch allowed Arcane Mages to avoid that cycle, which inflated their damage as a consequence. However, we also wanted to tweak a previous change where we increased Arcane Charges up to a max stack of 6. Dumping a stack of 6 is painful because it takes a long time to build it back up again, so in 5.2 we are lowering the stack size to 4.

Scorch was a big design problem for us for other reasons. It feels really good to have something to cast while moving, even if it’s a DPS loss overall. Many mages were taking Scorch for reasons beyond the Arcane Charge stacking issue above. At the same time, the talent tree also suffered a problem where Blazing Speed couldn’t compete with Temporal Shield or Ice Barrier. We had hoped to position Blazing Speed as a defensive ability, but really it’s a mobility talent, and we think it makes more sense alongside Presence of Mind and Ice Floes, which also offer mobility in one way or another. Instead of replacing Blazing Speed with Scorch, we just gave Scorch to Fire mages, which also helps differentiate the specs a bit more. Instead, now Mages have a new talent, Flameglow, which is a passive defensive option that absorbs some damage from each hit, and fits in thematically alongside Temporal Shield and Ice Barrier.

 

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Paladins are pretty solid overall. Still, we had a few issues to address:

  • We wanted to make less attractive talents more attractive.
  • Holy was too dominant in PvP.
  • Retribution wasn’t performing as well in PvP.

We focused a lot on addressing the performance of Holy Paladins in PvP for Mists of Pandaria, and it worked . . . a little too well. They have some offensive utility now and a variety of strong heals. To bring them back into line, we’re making two changes: Blinding Light will now have a cast time, but only for Holy. We also changed a PvP gear bonus to affect Flash of Light instead of Word of Glory. Shifting more PvP healing to a cast-time spell opens up the risk of interrupts and also requires the Paladin to stand still on occasion. Addressing representation through balance adjustments is always tricky – healers are always in demand for 3v3 Arena teams, so it’s unlikely that we’ll see Retribution Paladins become as common as Holy Paladins. However, we did want to give Retribution a little more oomph. The main change here is to lower the cooldown on Avenging Wrath to two minutes for Retribution only. Since this is an ability raiding Paladins have today through a set bonus, we just made it a core change. We also made Retribution’s Flash of Light stronger and allow them to benefit more from PvP Power’s conversion to healing. It makes sense that even DPS Paladins have good healing potential, so long as Retribution continues to primarily fill the role of a damage-dealer and can’t fully step into the role of a dedicated healer in PvP. Smaller Retribution buffs include letting them benefit from Glyph of Blessed Life and Templar’s Verdict to a greater extent, and adding a snare to Hammer of Light.

Protection received few changes; we like how they are doing overall. One small change was to make Grand Crusader benefit from dodges and parries as well, so that Paladins would benefit more from stats that were going to appear on their tanking gear anyway.

 

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Priests received several changes to address a few problems:

  • We wanted to make less attractive talents more attractive.
  • Discipline performed too well in PvE, but under-performed in PvP.
  • Shadow was too good in PvP, but solid in PvE, so we didn’t want the nerfs to spill over much.

We nerfed Phantasm and Psyfiend, both talents that all Shadow Priests took (and to be fair, many other priests as well) and reduced their healing (though remember we also offset that nerf somewhat with the change to PvP Power to benefit their healing somewhat). We didn’t want to hurt Mass Dispel or other utility that Shadow provides, especially in PvE. We also reduced Shadow burst a little through the Glyph of Mind Spike.

Discipline required more work. In raiding particularly, Discipline priests were using an effective but boring “rotation” of casting almost nothing but Prayer of Healing (with a guaranteed Divine Aegis) while using Spirit Shell on cooldown. Doing so allowed them to prevent more damage than anyone else was capable of healing. Our first change was to make Spirit Shell no longer benefit from mastery. When Spirit Shell absorbs for 50% more than it would have healed for, it just becomes a button to use on cooldown, while we’d rather it was used as a situational ability that’s triggered when absorbs make the most sense. We also wanted to see Discipline using spells other than Prayer of Healing.

As with Restoration Druids, we don’t want Disc to be casting nothing but Power Word: Shield, but we do want Power Word: Shield to be a major button in their arsenal, which wasn’t the case in 5.1. To accomplish this, we reduced the cost of Power Word: Shield and now allow it to crit, but we also redesigned Divine Aegis so that Prayer of Heal spamming would no longer be the right answer for every situation. Divine Aegis now requires a critical on Prayer of Healing to activate, but when it procs it applies a bubble instead of doubling the heal (essentially Discipline’s crits are 100% heal and 100% bubble instead of a 200% heal). We also changed their mastery to affect both heals and absorption so that their mastery wasn’t only beneficial after a crit. In addition, we buffed Penance, which is an iconic spell for Discipline and a fun one to use. To address Discipline’s PvP issues, in addition to these changes (of which the Power Word: Shield and Penance buffs will have the greatest effect), we redesigned their set bonus to make Flash Heal cheaper, and made a few spells un-dispellable. That’s normally a last resort for us, but we felt it was appropriate in this case.

Holy Priests received few modifications, though they will benefit from some of the talent changes. We think Holy is in a good place in PvE relative to other healers but was just so overshadowed by Discipline that they weren’t as common. That may change as the specs fill different niches.

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Annabella
Kilrogg
Annabella
28/03/2013
prot paladins i still have agro problems mainly on tank swaps or fast add spawns, basicly could use a boos on the initial agro generation, in the long run is fine, same as survival
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Sunhines
Shattered Hand
Sunhines
26/03/2013
the ret pallys are to d**n weak buff crusader strike plz
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Zynesty
Shattered Hand
Zynesty
26/03/2013
Arcane mages are not as good as Forst in PVE and PVP now. this is not called rescue a less attractive talent
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Priestitutee
Sylvanas
Priestitutee
12/04/2013
@Zynesty: IMO Arcane mages haven't been attractive at all since MOP Released. Only fire and frost, but mostly frost.
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Jegkandps
Ravencrest
Jegkandps
25/03/2013
The big fail is that everything is that on expensive on ah..
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Razbo
Mazrigos
Razbo
23/03/2013
A big mistake made by Blizzard is cutting the Malevolent Gladiator's Badge of Victory down with STR to 2.3k. That pretty much matches the level 85 Cata gear on use ability of str. A Ret Pally very much relies with our bursts, so to lower this so dramatically has seriously gimped our damage than it already was..
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Frozennic
Twisting Nether
Frozennic
21/03/2013
yoyo
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Pseudonymous
Bronzebeard
Pseudonymous
20/03/2013
Scorch :'(
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Fatallity
Neptulon
Fatallity
20/03/2013
bliz all is do is to hate paladins...never try to fix something for good reason and my class always nerfed more and more!Nice balance...
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Croction
Auchindoun
Croction
19/03/2013
And remove the upgraded gear because a Season 12 elite 2/2 upgraded its so much better then the Tyrannical weawpons
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Croction
Auchindoun
Croction
19/03/2013
Discipline priest doing to much damage
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Forburst
Neptulon
Forburst
19/03/2013
denounce should not work*
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Forburst
Neptulon
Forburst
19/03/2013
Mage shield- the weakest shield of them all
Frostbolt for a 1,7 sec cast deals so little dmg
Alter time should not be dispelled
Ice block's CD is too big, cant kill a player 1v1 whitout using an ice block
I understand i shouldnt use 3-4 ice block in arena for exp but in BG 5 min is too much. I ice block and after 4 min with 1 min left for ice block's CD use cold snap and what another 5 min cd :S if cold snap doesnt restart IB's cd would be nice thus we will have 2 ice blocks every 5 min i dont think its much.
Flameglow needs alittle boost to be competitive with ice barrier
denounce should work on fire mage as for fire mage its crutial to crit, one denounce and ur screwed
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Pyrostitutee
Sylvanas
Pyrostitutee
26/03/2013
@Forburst: Actually, we can kill a player 1v1 without using an iceblock. We are king of bursts, and I do agree that frost mages are pretty damn good in pvp.

I would like the other talents to be buffed or frost nerfed, as my name is pyrostitutee not frostitutee.
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Ðeviant
Al'Akir
Ðeviant
18/03/2013
Okay guys, those with no experience be quiet now. DK's have had their damage ramped right up, and they do need a slight nerf, hunters are fine, leave them be. Warriors are missing Deadly calm, and heroic strike, It's been a huge nerf to the class and Deadly calm was the most important thing in the Swifty Macro.
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Ataloz
Stormscale
Ataloz
22/03/2013
@Ðeviant: "swifty macro",so your telling that you prefer the one shot strategy rather than train someone use some extra cd's interrupt some casts which in macro case u didnt even bothered.GG
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Zebedeu
Xavius
Zebedeu
18/03/2013
on Blackout, in this moment 38 out of 50 3's teams have a priest inside.
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Zebedeu
Xavius
Zebedeu
16/03/2013
50% of arena teams have a priest (discipline). You have to admit you have a (big) problem.
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Zórth
Stormscale
Zórth
15/03/2013
Most people QQ'ing need to learn how to play their class.
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Knapert
Stormscale
Knapert
14/03/2013
Frost fire arcane talent tree Mage is death Game over time to lvl à new char
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Zórth
Stormscale
Zórth
15/03/2013
@Knapert: That made absolutely no sense.
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Intialla
Elune
Intialla
14/03/2013
I agrezz with the priest changes. I remember how I could, in pve, reduce the damages of some massive AOE to zero. i like to be powerful of course, but that was clearly too much.
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Knapert
Stormscale
Knapert
14/03/2013
Man they focked up the mage so bad i gotta play another class bye bye mage
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Psymonk
Sylvanas
Psymonk
13/03/2013
Nerf the Mage already! It's pointless to keep them so over-powered.
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Funkyo
The Maelstrom
Funkyo
14/03/2013
@Psymonk: oh you mean it's not pointless keep other calasses OP ? like monk, hunter, lock, rogue dk, warrior what left ? :d
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Knapert
Stormscale
Knapert
13/03/2013
Why frost getting better en fire sucks now bring back THE fire mage
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Áthene
Burning Steppes
Áthene
13/03/2013
Clueless Blizzard
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Mortalysa
Outland
Mortalysa
13/03/2013
i hope they nerf dk....it sux how much they are OP...and hunter dmg is...
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Soldcold
Grim Batol
Soldcold
16/03/2013
@Mortalysa: Ironic that you as a warrior complain about DK's and Hunters, when you clearly are in the same category, and neither hunter or DK is OP in 3v3, just saying, its good, but not op, and it should be good! just saying...
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Bushidolife
Burning Legion
Bushidolife
13/03/2013
mage dk neff pls
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Irakli
Sylvanas
Irakli
13/03/2013
please blizzard explain yourself why all mage spells is dispellable? why warlock spells can't be dispellable? mage shield vs dk hunter shaman priest or lock is nothing
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Soldcold
Grim Batol
Soldcold
16/03/2013
@Irakli: Because your a mage, you can steal otehrs buffs, locks cant do that, i think its fair, and DK's sacrifice a glyph to be bale to dispel :)
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Forburst
Neptulon
Forburst
19/03/2013
@Soldcold: They made spellsteal mana cost 33% and still cant steal alot of spells... further more ice block and alter time are dispelled ?!?!?! HOW do u dispell alter time :? ice block should be dispelled only with mass dispell
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Ganish
Bloodhoof
Ganish
13/03/2013
This is ridiculous
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Charìne
Stormscale
Charìne
13/03/2013
looks like only Discipline have a future now. Shadow gonne get nearfed.
Let "Halo" hit the ppl ho are stealth.
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Zórth
Stormscale
Zórth
15/03/2013
@Charìne: That's a load of rubbish, shadow preists are still useful to have, especially in PvP when you don't have a disc/holy in your healing set up - they offer great CC's with fears and the essential mass dispel.
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Funkyo
The Maelstrom
Funkyo
13/03/2013
1) Why da hell i can't spread lb all fire mages now uising Nether Tempest and this is bull!@#$.

2) Invocation gives me 40k heal i have 420k hp it was healing 150k you reduced cast time Invocation %50 ok but nerf the heal like %75, its not fair if you have 100k hp left you need to stand and do 6-7 time Invocation for doin full hp this is so retarded.

3)You nerfed pyro %10 and give us %^-*y T15 set bonus that means %18 pyro nerf = no ignite.

if you want to remove the mages from game just do it ffs all classes OP except us...

all caster classes can cast while movin except us.

There is no caster have a mana problem except us.

!@#$in lovely.
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Áthene
Burning Steppes
Áthene
13/03/2013
@Funkyo: aaaaaaaaaaahahahah all classes OP except you
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Swiftye
Hellscream
Swiftye
13/03/2013
@Funkyo: calm down bro Athene shhhhhh
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Tenary
Al'Akir
Tenary
19/03/2013
@Funkyo: Last time I checked, shadow priest cant cast while moving either, neither can shamans (with a spell they can for few seconds on 2-3 min cooldown).

Fire mage can cast while moving, frost mage dont need much casting. Only spec as mage which needs to stand still to do proper dps/damage against players/mobs is arcane. If you cant figure out how to (if your pve player) maximize your dps while moving then dont bother raiding, use the dummy in main city's and let those be your achievement, otherwise take a look at your skill and boss skills and figure out how to get procs/stuff to cast while you move out of certain place to another, aint that hard really. In pvp, most mages dont (again) cast much or if they need to cast, all others are unable to reach em to interupt. Also, mages doesnt really have a mana problem, its the talent which makes it a mana problem (or spec if you play arcane) but thats the point of those talent/spec's, read em trough again :#