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12/01/2011 2:02 PMPosted by Cyrith

http://media.lootftw.com/Newsimg/atramedes.jpg
Interesting tanking position, GZ.

don't act like a saint, even if they did exploit him its rather obvious why halfus heroic is the only boss you yourself have no video of

It is no longer possible to outrange the Halfus Wyrmbreaker drakes without being attacked by melee. The drakes now reposition themselves correctly in order to regain the capability to melee the target.

no free epics this week?!

Hello there, my level 18 guildess friend:

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/js5s23n4d67v6ngs/dashboard/?s=1672&e=2006

There are no free epix in 10 man heroics, can't kite like in 25's.

You can kite him? Damn, you really know your exploits!

Cause we're the first guild to tank Atramedes at the door.

You can English? Damn, you really know your reading with comprehension!

Kill is a kill, cant reverse that, this conversation is OVER!

He ment magmaw ;( (it's a little bit off topic cuz we were talking about atramedes but whatever)

Thing that is a bit annoying is people talking *@#% about 10 man raiding, especially scrubs that haven't even tried hardmodes (because for normals it really doesn't matter, bosses became faceroll after first week)

On the other hand if you tried it and you know how encounters work, you would realise that some of these bosses are actually abit (or alot) easier on 25, halfus, magmaw (with kiting) and conclave are major examples

At the end, no need to attack each others and diminish achievemnts or kills imo, you did what every other 25 man guild out there would do

Enough of offtopic, keep the thread clean, 10v25 thingy somewhere else

<3

Honestly , if people would just understand that different things are different and can't be compared. This discussion wouldn't exist.

This is how it looked. Initially 10 man guilds want to compare 10 to 25 when they were ahead. And now that the tides have turned , they claim 10 mans are harder and hence not comparable.

I'll just say it one more time. 10 mans and 25 mans are different and it's pointless and idiotic to try to compare them. LET IT BE WRITTEN.

needless to add to unplugged, loot run a 10man (casual) raid aswell as a 25 man (main) raid.
regardless of whats harder, loot will be completing heroics on 10man aswell as 25man.

12/01/2011 5:19 PMPosted by Zagro

He ment magmaw ;( (it's a little bit off topic cuz we were talking about atramedes but whatever)

Yeah, kind of odd to mention kiting when they were discussing Atramedes and Halfus and suddenly assume everyone knows what boss he's referring to. No clue what he's talking about with the English thing either.

I agree, 10 and 25 can't be compared (which is the reason both aren't tracked in this thread of course). There will be hard-mode fights that are harder in 10 man and fights that are harder in 25. Let's just hope the end bosses are balanced, as from what I know, both Al'Akir and Nefarian seem easier in 10 man when written down on paper, which is a shame.

I agree, 10 and 25 can't be compared (which is the reason both aren't tracked in this thread of course). There will be hard-mode fights that are harder in 10 man and fights that are harder in 25. Let's just hope the end bosses are balanced, as from what I know, both Al'Akir and Nefarian seem easier in 10 man when written down on paper, which is a shame.

Whole point :)

Can we has cookies now? :p

12/01/2011 5:28 PMPosted by Unplugged

Honestly , if people would just understand that different things are different and can't be compared. This discussion wouldn't exist.

This is how it looked. Initially 10 man guilds want to compare 10 to 25 when they were ahead. And now that the tides have turned , they claim 10 mans are harder and hence not comparable.

Last time I checked, Loot FTW was the one and only guild who even started public discussion and comparison of 10's vs 25's by simply starting this thread.

If you've expected that there'll be no feedback after you've continuously bashed 10's you shouldn't have started it in the first place and you should have used your own page to track progress like other, less ego-trippy guilds do.

12/01/2011 6:01 PMPosted by Toumari

I agree, 10 and 25 can't be compared (which is the reason both aren't tracked in this thread of course). There will be hard-mode fights that are harder in 10 man and fights that are harder in 25. Let's just hope the end bosses are balanced, as from what I know, both Al'Akir and Nefarian seem easier in 10 man when written down on paper, which is a shame.

And there you go again :)

Your make-believe methods are clearly superior to mine, forcing me to end this conversation on my part.


I just wonder if this topic would have gotten stickied if it had [25 only] in its name?

12/01/2011 6:30 PMPosted by Locco

And there you go again :)

Your make-believe methods are clearly superior to mine, forcing me to end this conversation on my part.

You can't accept that some fights are harder in both 10 and 25 man side of the scale? I think I'll know if normals are easier on 10 or 25, after all I've killed everything in 10 man on beta. I don't know what hard-modes are like on 10.

I try and be civil about this particular subject and not poke digs at you or your guilds progress. At least Zagro is being civil.

We made the thread to be able to make a distinction between 25 progress and 10. We're completely entitled to doing so. If you disagree , then we just can't help you.

You've carried your point across and we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Hello,

congratulations to all your kills, on behalf of Bloodlust [H] I add:

12/01/11
Halfus the Wyrmbreaker
Valiona and Theralion

It is 25 man... good luck in your future raids ;)

edit: typos

12/01/2011 2:02 PMPosted by Cyrith

don't act like a saint, even if they did exploit him its rather obvious why halfus heroic is the only boss you yourself have no video of

For your viewing pleasure; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCorq9w-tto

For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w8EgTMU0Y0

It's as intresting as you're posts locco. someone is bawthurt.

14/01/2011 10:48 AMPosted by Locco

don't act like a saint, even if they did exploit him its rather obvious why halfus heroic is the only boss you yourself have no video of

For your viewing pleasure; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCorq9w-tto

first kills are just so much better

[A] Loot FTW

Heroic: Magmaw
14/01/2011

[H] ronin
Heroic: Chimaeron
16/01/2011

12/01/2011 12:52 PMPosted by Locco

[A] Loot FTW

Heroic: Atramedes
10/01/2011

http://media.lootftw.com/Newsimg/atramedes.jpg

Interesting tanking position, GZ.

Such a hypocrite.

Funny how you manage to kill Atramedes so fast after failing so hard on anything of any particular challenge (Halfus and Chimaeron is basically free loot). No logs? No screenshot? At least Loot FTW seem to be somewhat up front about how they killed it.

Chaining gongs, amirite?

yep, chain gonged H: Conclave too, also free loot and no challenge

forgot to mention, they dropped 6 items, oh wait :(