There was such a system, Dishonorable Kills, Blizzard abandoned it due to massive QQing by the gankers and losers who wanted to 'raid' Crossroads at 75. |
This is by no means a rant, more of a suggestion, and before you say "you should have rolled on a PvE server" You should have rolled on a PvE server. And a great suggestion to all those who have problems with the PvP realms: you should roll on a PvE server. |
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My suggestion would by no means remove low level ganking, I would nto want to see it removed. Just make it a desision that could cost you getting camped by someone on your own faction that si doing it equally for fun. Would you find it fun being camped? |
Killing Low Level-Characters is stupid and pointless. I am a big fan of PvP but this type of "world pvp" ist just annoying and stupid. And as far as i remember the people who do this kind of stuff are never good PvPers for obvious reasons. So cut the crap and get better - kill hundreds and thousands of other players who arent chanceless and you'll improve. |
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U mad? i never said i kill low lvl nor i'm bad You are basing your reply on your immaginary world where everything is good and low lvls are threated fairly on pvp realms. Wake up that's not how it works. |
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Why don't you just call some people to help you? It often works to just call out for help in the general channel and some higher level people of your faction will come by to gank the ganker :-)
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Lastly group of Horde (around 5-7 ppl) was wandering in front of Stormwind, there were 2-3 Alliance players who attacked them (counting me). AT the same time 4-5 players (85 level) were just looking how fight and didn't help us, because one isn't PvP tagged in capital city (it is PvP server) As was previously said, I play PvP server and I accept when I'm killed by higher level once or twice ( I sometimes kill low levels myself when I'm bored, but I never do this more than once), but if someone takes so much pleasure from killing another player with on e button hit, that kind of person has some mental problems taking pleasure when someone suffers. |
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People should stop cry about getting killed 1 times or 20 times in the outside world on a pvp server. People gank because they can. well if you dont like it log of and get a other char try to kill him.
Most peoples get killed on roads. Just avoid them and you have less change to get killed or attacked. Stop cry now because PVP is ganking deal with or roll PVE! |
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Yes but I don't think it did a great job to discourage those who wanted to do it deliberately. You could also get a dishonourable kill by being in a group with someone who killed a lowbie, this happened to me when I was outside an instance with a group once, I was heartbroken.
Depends on the difference in levels. Obviously if someone is a lot lower than you then yeah, the 'challenge' argument doesn't apply :)
True, although it only helps if people are actually ganking for honor or just for the fun of finding enemies to kill. I suspect a large portion of people do it for the latter reason, seeing as BGs are a much better source of honor points.
Yeah sure, I was only mentioning it to point out that it wouldn't be that straight-forward to implement, and we always have to weigh up the urgency of changes like this against other things that demand developer time :) |
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Edited by Takralus on 20/07/12 16:32 (BST)
As Oldtrafford pointed out, the whole point is that it's a PvP server. The rules and mechanics should be different when it comes to PvP. Ganking is just part of a PvP realm that one just has to accept as reality. Sometimes i'm the gankee (if it's red it's dead!) other times it's myself getting the gank/corpse camp. I remember the other day I was questing in badlands on this character doing some old quests, when a 10 levels higher player than me ganks and corpse camps the hell out of me. I then rallied afew friends to the zone and dished out our own piece of justice ;-). It's abit of fun that adds abit of spice and danger in the zone. Well said, some very good points :) |
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I still remember my first and only dhk, Tarren Mill... I was sooo mad. Getting them while in a group sucked. 1... 1...
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I got a possible fix. When you gank someone (you kill someone x levels below you) you get a stacking Wanted debuff. When you get killed in PvP with the debuff on you, the killer gets extra Honor Points. This makes ganking more risky, because there will be more incentive to kill gankers.
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I like that proposition. Could add the feeling of a bounty as well |
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I see this quite a lot, people are generally happy, if not keen, to help in these situations. Otherwise, you can try to quickly log and get your main to dish out the justice yourself. Revenge is oh so sweet :) |
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Being ganked alone is not fun. . . but that's why you make friends to help you.
Calling in your guildies and friends to come exact revenge is fun, and use to turn into all out Wars which I look back on fondly. I'll never forget being lvl 40 and joining my lvl 60 guildies in a raid at xr (crossroads for you newer players). I can only imagine Barrens chat as within minutes we were met by 30 or more lvl 60 horde, I might not of been alot of use in that battle only being lvl 40, but by god I had a fun time picking off the people at my lvl :) |
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Edited by Tofu on 20/07/12 16:58 (BST)
My favourite thing about pvp servers is when it doesn't happen. I love when you help out someone on the other faction who could be trying to kill you who chooses not to. I love when you walk into an area and the other faction gets all paranoid about whether you will attack them or not. Sometimes they come over and deliberately help you with a mob to try and show that they mean no harm. It's awesome. I personally have a carebear attitude to world pvp. I will only attack people who attack me.
Sometimes they do attack and you do get beaten up or even killed. Thats the whole point though. Even though I never instigate the fights (I will happily ress and retaliate) I get a huge amount of enjoyment out of the whole social experiment side of things. Rogues 90% attack, druids and shamans tend to be carebears, all healers generally won't attack, shadow, ret and protection are pretty guaranteed to attack, the list goes on. It's great, I wouldn't want it changed at all. The whole point of honorable combat is not that you are protected from violence, simply that you choose not to. To quote every ganker who will come into this thread "reroll pve" if you don't like it. |
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Except for the fact that most PvP Servers are Low Pop with horrible Faction ratio's, making few people roll on them (or for long). With the abundance of PvP servers, we're talking a lot of wasted server space here. The best solution is fairly obvious: Phasing Characters of a level up to say the 'maximum' of a Zone are in one phase, those above it are in another. Sub-zones in a Zone could have different level limits, depending on taste. This way the world becomes more attractive to those naturally out-and-about in it (non-cap toons) and actual PvP would strive, with only griefer tears flowing they'd have to HTFU. |
Exactly like a bounty. |
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Absofreakinglutely awesome idea. |
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You have to drammatically buff the honor gain, for make it work. Because as for now 10 honor points aren't enough to some players for kill someone at theyr own level. |
