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Every1 is whining, the dk does too much aoe, the druid has bleeds that are too strong, mages instantcrit for 25k icelances, the warrior has insane burst....

Just wait untill pvp and pve gear get more complete and not every1 is using a mix.

Yes in Icc25 gear i was also 2 shotting ppl in Icc25 gear in WotLK...
Yes in Wrathfull gear i was also having a 1,5 minute fight against other pvp geared classes with 40% dmg reduction...

With gear things will get less bursty and more skill-related. How much, that's to blizz to decide.

from a tank point

does beserk still break fear? just no longer immune during?

Hopefully bad ferals will become bad again.

But people don't want to wait, we had this crap at the start of Wotlk and Burning Crusade.

They cried how resilience wasnt working and when they buffed it they cried over healers, the same healers who were crying about burst and damage as they played battlegrounds in PVE gear and wondered why they died so fast.

The only people crying over fear immunity are those that want to do damage to you with impunity, using the likes of Berzerk or Lichborne ect do not stop you taking damage or being attacked. We had this crap in vanilla, if you want fear immunty removed then fear breaks on damage. None of this 'may' or 'chance to' rubbish.

does beserk still break fear? just no longer immune during?

It breaks fear and makes you immune to it during it's duration. this can only be done in Bear or Cat form, not travel, aquatic or humanoid.

nono it no longer makes you immune during beserk as is stated in the patchnotes update crap

but the question is does it still break fear if you use it while feared

Have no idea if it will break fear likely not as even that would send the 'I need fear cos I suck' tards into a frenzy of tears.

Then again we are dealing with people who hotfix TolBarad to give 1800 honor per win now even with it being a disaster of a battleground.

When fighting people with 3-4k resi at the moment, my bleeds tick for about 3k on that person and crits for about 6k. Now I'm not badly geared compared to most people out there, do you guys really find that overpowered damage?
Mages with equal gear as mine for example can spam 10-15k icelances on my face, and don't get me started about some of the other classes at the moment. (Hi warriors, dk's etc.)
I feel that since the last fix to our bleeds, damage has been pretty balanced compared to other classes.

About the Berserk change, guess we'll just have to wait what Blizzard is going to come up with; Removing fear immunity, longer cooldown, shorter duration.. who knows?

Removing fear immunity seems ridiculous, it will become very, very difficult to kill spriests and locks.

When you die in a global from a DK&Warr then you're allowed to talk about nerf... shut up with this "OMG THEY NERFED FERAL DRUIDS" Ferals are just to good now, and blizzard are doing the right thing to nerf them abit.

Fyi: talking about pvp

I really hate that we get punish pve wise because pvp is so crappy in this game and wil never be balance. So many whiners and blizzard cant think or do the maths themselves with full resilience gear.

I dont pvp anymore in wow cause the game pvp is just pure crap and never ever been even slightly balances betreewn classes.

Why o Why cant they just make a pvp debuff that everyone gets on them in battlegrounds etc that balances them, so it wont effect pve. Blizzards really been bad at mixing pvp and pve into one.

Ok I think we all need to agree on 1 thing. Most of the players are simply average ! They see immune to fear once, and QQ on forums how ferals are always immune to fear ...

As for polymorph goes lol lol lol lol, its not that we have 1 less CC to worry about, cuzz we can now be hybernated, feared by hunters etc.
So it just switched from mage to druid / hunter.

PvP damage on single target was good, might even say great, but compared to other classes not OP. That part (as blizz probably seen it) comes from bleeding 3 targets while berzerked, so we can push alot of dps at that point, that I would say was a bit OP, but that is still under perfect circumstances, who dont happen at any decent mmr.

I agree ferals need a bit more work, but this is a step in wrong direction. Will we get into same position as in wotkl ? Get your back to a wall and laugh at feral since he cant shread ?

Things are going downhill since ppl walking half naked with 100 resiliance max are alowed to QQ about other classes damage who just killed them in duel or BG

28/12/2010 4:07 PMPosted by Carebite

Our damage isn't at all over the top against people with actual PvP gear. The people that complain are people with zero resilience and zero PvP-knowledge whatsoever. It annoys me so much that because of them, this nerf is happening. My rip ticks hit for about 3,5-3,8k on fully PvP-geared people, crits for about the double. How's that overpowered exactly?

Mate, you are full of !!#!.

I've got 2.6k resilience on my lock which is about 27-28% dmg reduction PLUS SL 25% dmg reduction.

And yet still, still feral druids manage to get my hp down to 20% within less then 5-10 seconds which is complete and utter bull!!#!.

"My rip ticks hit for about 3,5-3,8k on pvp geared people"... yeah as *#!!ing if.

It easily ticks HITS for 4-5k not to mention when it actually crits, oh and yesterday I got crit by a feral without any other buffs other than his own for 22k with ferocious bite.

Druid needs a nerf, and YOU KNOW IT.

28/12/2010 7:04 PMPosted by Dzonii

Ok I think we all need to agree on 1 thing. Most of the players are simply average ! They see immune to fear once, and QQ on forums how ferals are always immune to fear ...

As for polymorph goes lol lol lol lol, its not that we have 1 less CC to worry about, cuzz we can now be hybernated, feared by hunters etc.
So it just switched from mage to druid / hunter.

PvP damage on single target was good, might even say great, but compared to other classes not OP. That part (as blizz probably seen it) comes from bleeding 3 targets while berzerked, so we can push alot of dps at that point, that I would say was a bit OP, but that is still under perfect circumstances, who dont happen at any decent mmr.

I agree ferals need a bit more work, but this is a step in wrong direction. Will we get into same position as in wotkl ? Get your back to a wall and laugh at feral since he cant shread ?

Things are going downhill since ppl walking half naked with 100 resiliance max are alowed to QQ about other classes damage who just killed them in duel or BG

Yeah cause EVERYONE has a hunter with them in arena or has a druid with them amiright?

Ferals are near impossible to cc: immune to polymorph, immune to getting rooted, immune to fear (practicly).

And lol "hibernate" or "scare beast" yeah cause its hard for an actual "skilled" (although I wouldn't use the word skilled and feral druid together) feral druid to go out of cat form for a split second before the cast goes off.

The fear immunity NEEDS to be removed, you are TOO overpowered.

1st of all idk why are rogues talking at all??? they got 5 diffrent stuns, 2 disorient, and the evasion bull**** +50% dodge.

the druid got nerfed in the start os this patch he lost his direbear so he lost armor, they got removed the benefit from agility to dodge in bearform they nerfed our stamina in bear form, our frenzied regeneration, what else???
we have only dodge and you take this from us, dude realy, tanking with a druid will be impossible, now u wanna nerf the bleeds to and give us meele dmg, its like u take from the warrior the meele dmg and boost his rend dmg this makes no sense

28/12/2010 7:23 PMPosted by Zinyx

Yeah cause EVERYONE has a hunter with them in arena or has a druid with them amiright?

Ferals are near impossible to cc: immune to polymorph, immune to getting rooted, immune to fear (practicly).

And lol "hibernate" or "scare beast" yeah cause its hard for an actual "skilled" (although I wouldn't use the word skilled and feral druid together) feral druid to go out of cat form for a split second before the cast goes off.

The fear immunity NEEDS to be removed, you are TOO overpowered.

Yea and EVERYONE has a mage with them in are... wait - a - second!

On a more serious note, you do know that feral druids have had these things all along, you just didn't see them as much as you do now, right?
And I agree, every half decent feral druid will shift out of form before a hibernate/scare beast lands but again, it's nothing new, you just didn't see it alot untill now.
I see you talked about you being a warlock with 2.6k resilience and going to 20% hp in 5-10 seconds. They should make an achievement just for you, because you can drop that fast with your selfheals! Any decent warlock on my server can deal with a decent feral druid.

Have you ever concidered if the problem is really the feral druids, or it may just be you?

I would gues he is talking about that, cuzz he never pulled off gouge, stun, blind, or anything that would help druid / hunter land that CC, and its also hard with 3 classes who have bloodlust buff to pull off that cast ...

What was I thinking, asking some co-operation from arena players ???

everyone seems to be looking over the fact that they are getting rid of fear immune to be honest without that, your a joke unless you go with a healer....... If any one played in tbc getting fear bombed wasnt fun

[quote="14198043140"]It easily ticks HITS for 4-5k not to mention when it actually crits, oh and yesterday I got crit by a feral without any other buffs other than his own for 22k with ferocious bite.

So, a feral got to stack 5 cps on you and used a fb with max energy conversion and probably TF active.. and STILL hit for less less than a feral would hit with FB at lvl 80.

GO AWAY.

Ferals are near impossible to cc: immune to polymorph, immune to getting rooted, immune to fear (practicly).

Druids are not immune to being rooted as they can shift out of it or a snare, at no time are they immune to any root or snare effect. Doing so costs a a global cooldown on the next ability in the same way any dispell would.

Druids are only immune to fear during Berzerk which has a cooldown.

Your use of the word practically has no meaning in this context.

And lol "hibernate" or "scare beast" yeah cause its hard for an actual "skilled" (although I wouldn't use the word skilled and feral druid together) feral druid to go out of cat form for a split second before the cast goes off.

Again, shifting out of form back to humanoid (all other forms are viable to scare beast and hibernate) requires using a global cooldown before another move after having shifted back into form. Note that you are now vulnerable to polymorph once in humanoid form, oh you did not bring a mage.

The fear immunity NEEDS to be removed, you are TOO overpowered.

The same fear immunity that Bladestorm has or berzerker stance or possibly removing fear using Divine Shield, temp immunity using fearward, Iceblock, Lichborne, immunity during antimagic sheild...

If you plan on complaining about a class spec, have the decency to know what you are talking about before crying to the developers who cave in to moronic opinions such as yours.