"Best" PvE DPS Class [?]

85 Tauren Paladin
3295
Howdy.

I've been playing since 2006, yet my only Level-Capped Character, has always been my Paladin. (60, 70, 80, 85). I alwayed enjoyed it, even while getting Nerfs, and buffs, and nerfs, and (You get my point).

ATM. I have both PvP and PvE gear, both as Prot and Ret.
So what I am looking for, is something different.. For PvE(!) purposes ONLY.

I know you can't ask for which class does the most DPS, as it really rely's on the player, and the rotation.. Say I know where to read/check out most information about every class, who would do the best? I will be raiding early-Cataclysm content, but mostly heroics.

What I thought I would be looking for was a Spell/Ranged, due to having played Melee for years.. But I tried out a Fury Warrior on PTR, and I found that quite interresting actually.. I also have a 65(64?) Frost Mage which I also enjoy, but don't let this change your opinion.

I would also love if you would take the upcomming patch-notes in mind.. :o))

Thanks in forehand!

Kraziuaz

TLDR; Which class is topping most DPS, but still has a fun rotation, in Early-Cataclysm Raid-content and Heroics? (PvE-Only!)
Edited by Kraziuaz on 12/01/2011 08:46 GMT
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85 Tauren Paladin
3295
So...

There's absolutely no one?
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
6225
Roll Unholy dk.
There good at pve (top dps charts)
in pvp and they have no real weaknesses
similar to ret so not much difference (just the pet)
what could go wrong ;)
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90 Human Warlock
21085
Good classes in PvE setting:

- Unholy DK
- Survival Hunter
- Combat Rogue
- Fire Mage
- Destro Lock

Note that warlocks scale better with gear, so on higher iLvls locks are going to get higher DPS than mages.
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13/01/2011 12:16 PMPosted by Warriorista
Good classes in PvE setting:

- Unholy DK
- Survival Hunter
- Combat Rogue
- Fire Mage
- Destro Lock

Note that warlocks scale better with gear, so on higher iLvls locks are going to get higher DPS than mages.


On low ilvl locks also do better dps than mages

anyways for the OP
atm best dps classes are hunters, dk's and locks followed by feral druids,rogues, enh shamans and moonkins.

Patch doesn't really seem to change that much except that feral druids are getting heavy nerfs.
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90 Goblin Shaman
16310
And hunters getting nerfed, and dk's getting nerfed, and enhance are getting nerfed (although not obvious, their attempt to make FT/FT unviable is a nerf to our dps.
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7 Gnome Mage
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Good classes in PvE setting:
- Fire Mage

that warlocks scale better with gear, so on higher iLvls locks are going to get higher DPS than mages.


I hope that you are joking.
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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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only way a Fire mage would beat any type of specced Lock in a PvE encounter is if theres multiple adds and he gets LUCKY with critts for his combustion. Fire is pretty much crap single target, we'd rather bring another moonkin or lock instead.
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85 Tauren Druid
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http://stateofdps.com/index.php?raid=25N&samples=200&spec[]=dps
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85 Tauren Paladin
3295
Thanks a lot for all the positive answers.

I will be trying out a Survival Hunt(ard)er :o)
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90 Troll Druid
16575
13/01/2011 12:26 PMPosted by Bielz
anyways for the OP
atm best dps classes are hunters, dk's and locks followed by feral druids,rogues, enh shamans and moonkins.

Patch doesn't really seem to change that much except that feral druids are getting heavy nerfs.


I fail to see how people keep mentioning moonkins and ferals as "best dpsers". Data mining sites clearly shows that every pure have at least 1 spec ahead of both of these.

Considering the fact those lists are made from thousands of logs and only top x of each class is selected for each boss, I'd guess both skill and luck factors are already solved.
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85 Human Death Knight
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13/01/2011 7:54 PMPosted by Raiju
And hunters getting nerfed, and dk's getting nerfed, and enhance are getting nerfed (although not obvious, their attempt to make FT/FT unviable is a nerf to our dps.


We are getting buffed actually.
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85 Worgen Warrior
9450
How extremely typical of a DPS to think that 'highest DPS' matters these days.

There's an experiment with cats and dogs trying to reach a bowl of food, but they're seperated by a glass wall which has two sides adjacent to the pet. The fastest way to the food is moving away from it, but cats will just try to get over the glass or through it. 'Moving away from the goal' isn't the kind of logic that works.

I see plenty of DPS who are just like the cats - seemingly the OP is like one too. In quite the amount of situations, INTERRUPTING your rotation is key to your continued damage dealt, in terms of CC and interrupts on the target. Even moving will quite often save your butt and numbers.

Apparently it's pretty hard to understand the concept of 'a dead dps does zero dps'.

PS: The best DPS is the one who survives and contributes to the group/raid.
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85 Draenei Hunter
3710
I like my hunter.
Apart from doing nice DPS, we bring excellent utility to a raid/group.
We have some nice CC abilities, we can kite mobs and manage threat in interesting ways. There also doesn't tend to be much competition with other classes for gear.

More info here :-)
http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/01/13/scattered-shots-why-hunters-are-better-than-every-other-class/

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85 Goblin Shaman
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14/01/2011 1:03 PMPosted by Charleston
How extremely typical of a DPS to think that 'highest DPS' matters these days.

There's an experiment with cats and dogs trying to reach a bowl of food, but they're seperated by a glass wall which has two sides adjacent to the pet. The fastest way to the food is moving away from it, but cats will just try to get over the glass or through it. 'Moving away from the goal' isn't the kind of logic that works.

I see plenty of DPS who are just like the cats - seemingly the OP is like one too. In quite the amount of situations, INTERRUPTING your rotation is key to your continued damage dealt, in terms of CC and interrupts on the target. Even moving will quite often save your butt and numbers.

Apparently it's pretty hard to understand the concept of 'a dead dps does zero dps'.

PS: The best DPS is the one who survives and contributes to the group/raid.



Ignore everything written here, there is nothing wrong with wanting to play a DPS class that can do good DPS, this guy likes to assume things.
Edited by Khronics on 14/01/2011 14:18 GMT
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85 Draenei Hunter
8525
Go warlock, Survival is getting nerfed from overpowered to balanced.

Bwaaaah
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90 Night Elf Druid
10500
anyways for the OP
atm best dps classes are hunters, dk's and locks followed by feral druids,rogues, enh shamans and moonkins.

Patch doesn't really seem to change that much except that feral druids are getting heavy nerfs.


Locks and hunters are seeing some fairly heavy nerfs, and feral isn't getting nerfed as such we're just getting our dps shifted around our attacks more so we're not as heavily reliant on Bleeds and get more burst....all for PvP reasons as far as druids go though!

In fairness, straight up dps-races locks will usually win out, but in an ideal player scenario they won't get to this as they shoudl be helping out on group utility. Mages can still output some good numbers but have a lot of group saving abilities for CC and interrupting! I'd prefer a 10k mage along who knows how to interrupt than a 12k warlock who doesn't!
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90 Goblin Shaman
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14/01/2011 12:54 PMPosted by Selectable
And hunters getting nerfed, and dk's getting nerfed, and enhance are getting nerfed (although not obvious, their attempt to make FT/FT unviable is a nerf to our dps.


We are getting buffed actually.


It isn't actually, it's now. Patch notes change by the day.
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85 Worgen Druid
11730
Asking about best PvE class is pointless at any state of the game because:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/859358482

I might add that class/spec being "fun" i highly subjective and might not reflect in someone else's gameplay.

Topics like this only lead to endless and pointless arguments about why this class does more dps than the other and how everyone is wrong. Sure, you can discuss it but mind this - in a month or 2 it will mean nothing anyway.
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90 Goblin Shaman
16310
14/01/2011 1:03 PMPosted by Charleston
How extremely typical of a DPS to think that 'highest DPS' matters these days.

There's an experiment with cats and dogs trying to reach a bowl of food, but they're seperated by a glass wall which has two sides adjacent to the pet. The fastest way to the food is moving away from it, but cats will just try to get over the glass or through it. 'Moving away from the goal' isn't the kind of logic that works.

I see plenty of DPS who are just like the cats - seemingly the OP is like one too. In quite the amount of situations, INTERRUPTING your rotation is key to your continued damage dealt, in terms of CC and interrupts on the target. Even moving will quite often save your butt and numbers.

Apparently it's pretty hard to understand the concept of 'a dead dps does zero dps'.

PS: The best DPS is the one who survives and contributes to the group/raid.


It's a biased test. Both animals would discover by CHANCE that going away from the food gets them closer, and then once they know that they would repeat their action.

It's exactly the same as the Skinner box, where animals were taught to use a lever to either receive food, or not use it so they don't receive and electric shock.
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