Topic Guild raiding alliances and Achievements.
We are a small guild and we have been trying to recruit for raiding. This as we know at the moment is a huge pain for small guilds and I wrote a post on this a while ago so will not go into it.
But lets put this aside as recently we have teamed up with 2 other small guilds to start raiding. We went on our first raid last night (yea). The plan was mostly to get everyone to know each other and work together more. It went really well, we all had fun (even though it was a wipe-fest) and we managed to get Magmaw down to 12% our main problem being lack of control on the parasites (should have a Mage next week) at the end of that try.
The 3 guilds did well together and we are going to continue with the set up. Making 1 bigger guild out of the 3 is not an option due to the different play-styles / times of activity etc.
I was thinking about achievements though and how as a guild we will not get them this way which, when we are trying to recruit to be able to raid on our own can possibly make us look like we are fibbing just to get people in.
Yes the old way used to be like this and everyone was fine with it but at that time everyone was in the same boat. Now that achievements are in people rely on them a lot. I don't think we should be able to get said guild achievement but some way of acknowledging that our "Alliance" of guilds did it would be great.
I would not like to see another achievement system added for alliances as that would be going to far. But perhaps a way to set up an alliance (so that it can be attributed to the alliance run and no one person doing it randomly) and on the guild achievements page a way of acknowledging that the guild alliance has completed said act (but no points awarded).
What are you thoughts? Let me know.
Look at it from Blizzards point of view. You could solve the problem by combining your guilds, put 3 raider ranks in it (CasualCraft Raider, Otherguild Raider, SaturdayOldboys raider) and let each rank follow the rules and codes of the old guilds.
Less that optimal you might say, but so would any solution that Blizzard came up with be, and without the waiting time and expense.
Hmm like I said the guilds do not have the exact same ethos. Combining the guilds is not an option. The only common point is the raiding at the moment.
I did look from Blizzardds point of view. Anything they do is work for them, balancing (hah), new content, UI etc. This is why we pay them. If they only left everything at vanilla I am sure you and most of the player base would be complaining by now about the monthly cost.
Why would the solution be less than optimal to put in a field saying completed in guild alliance. The coding and database work for that is not much. The main work would be on a system to allow alliances (which to be honest is also not a lot of work again 1 or 2 fields and a small UI change).
I may be the only one in which case, yes it is not worth Blizzards time but dismissing an idea because of your reasoning would mean nothing would ever be implemented which is not the case.
Edited by Ragarath on 23/02/11 09:50 (GMT)
Sorry for the late reply busy weekend.
There are many analogies in game but I will leave you with the below one.
Why has it been made easier for people to group with others via LFG/D? You could already do this in vanilla in the form of, you know, talking to people. Yes "less than optimal" but it worked.
Almost everything in this game has evolved from something that was "less than optimal." This is why I said that your dismissing of the idea based on "you can do it another less than optimal way" reasoning would mean that nothing in game was ever changed or implemented.
And your "solution" is not a solution to the problem I am facing, it is a suggestion of changing the way 3 guilds play.
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I know this is a really old thread but I have to ask why Blizzard hasn't implemented some kind of guild alliance system like guild wars has had for years? The US forums have a similar thread: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2089280188
Where guilds have their own levels and achievements they're a bit like metacharacters now; nobody really wants to abandon them and there are a lot of small guilds out there who are unwilling to leave the guild they've worked on, levelled, farmed achievements for just because of an activity slump or a sudden vacuum of leadership.
In a climate where people are willing to pay to move their guilds with their characters, there must be some understanding that merging guilds like we used to in Lich King really isn't an option anymore? Or am I alone here?
Either way I'd love to have some tools to share achievements with a guild I've allied myself with.