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Revolvers and the like
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Edited by Lorya on 26/04/11 21:23 (BST)
You may add a gun to your Roleplaying-cookie, but the taste can go a little sour so please make sure to also add:
*Respect *Common sense *An open mind And remember! The way to bake a good roleplaying cookie takes skill, and before success you may have to give in to the defeat and eat a sour one once in a while. Perhaps next time your gun will fit better with the mix! Good luck and happy baking! |
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Lorya, have I permission to steal this recipe wholesale for eventual use in other, appropriate threads where the ingredients are complementary?
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I had this issue to many times. Yes, my character wears two of them pistol, and a rifle strapped onto her back. But she only pulls it out when someone is being and silly cake to her. Or in some cases, try to actually -KILL- her, without a proper reason or a word from my side.
I think they can be used. I always make them able to just fire once, then they are empty, need to be reloaded and I quickly jump to a fist fight. (which I often lose.. I am not so strong.. :< ) But calling it OP? No.. If someone fires at you, YOU are still in control of your character. Make it impact on the shoulder or arm or something, then walk off. Just stay focused, and do what is right. And especially do not scream about that it is godemoting. Because it ain't. Yihaaaa! |
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Stop being a jackass, jackass. |
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Wow isn't like our 21st century real life where armory piercing bullets blow through plate armor like a knife through butter. In wow the metals are strong enough to withstand such punnishment and there rests your balance. . Couldn't be more right, really. If someone's going off the chart with overpowered-ness (and in my experience this is actually more common in terms of disrespecting the reasonable powers of others, for example a rogue expecting to be able to fight off six or seven guardsmen because he was trained by a panda or somesuch), then we have two options: OOC, or IC. OOC, we can either walk away, or whisper "seriously?" to our opponent? Since the relatively few brawls Lu gets into are usually with her guild with her (we don't fight fair), it tends to be me doing the whispering. If a player is really so conceited that they can't accept that their single person, however 'elite' is going to be beaten down by five or six thugs; then you move to walking away. Sometimes though; you'll end up with a whisper along the lines of "Don't worry, I'll go down, just dragging it out a little :D". Win-win. IC, things are a little more hazy and ill-defined. The last suitable response is an IC arms-race without any backing in the characters' histories. What I prefer to do is to, through a little clever /g communication; ensure that all of our emotes arrive almost simultaneously. If a player has the cojones to emote escaping a dreadmace, throwing-knife, dagger, arcane blast and rapier all at once, then we go back to whispering "seriously?". More often than not, though; they get the point. It also helps, of course, if you're willing for one of your people to go down in the fracas, as a sign of good faith. One-on-one, obviously, this isn't an option. It's simple for me, I simply lose; but other characters are actually meant to be fairly proficient. I tend to take the first blow, hard, to make it clear that I'm willing to. That way, if my opponent turns out to be indestructible, I know I can take the moral high-ground in simply walking away. |
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Yes there are guns, lazers, rockets but they're hardly more of a threat than a fireball, ice shard, lava bolt, etc. Why? Because we don't only have the weapons but we also have the fantasy armor in wow to withstand such devastating blows.. So it's only those of us that happen to wear clothes and RP our humans with a relatively realistic (by real world standards) degree of fitness and mortality that are buggered? Good to know. *grins* In all seriousness though, the problem is not everyone roleplays with what you're saying in mind, some people really don't want to have magical armour or super human abilities and it can be somewhat difficult to get the balance right. Alliance side, we often whine alot when people show super human abilities in a fight, this is because it is very tedius in emote fighting and detracts from the experience, after being on both sides of the spectrum (more on the typical warcraft super human 5-6 years back when I was first starting out, then adapting to a more realistic style as I got my bearings) I whole heartedly agree with this to be honest. Horde side it's not the same as you tend to settle your disputes with duels, if I'm not mistaken? |
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In all seriousness though, the problem is not everyone roleplays with what you're saying in mind, some people really don't want to have magical armour or super human abilities and it can be somewhat difficult to get the balance right. As stated I was exadurating slightly. But even cloth has new materials such as embersilk with its own unique abilities and qualities. And as much as you want realism, use what's realistic for the setting as defined by blizzard. Not what's realistic compared to real life or what you'd like it to be. If you do choose to do that then ofcourse you'll run into this kind of frustration where realists and fantasy dreamers clash. In these cases there's still little need to fight and I'm confident with respect and decent communication any situation can be agreed finding common ground or a middle road. As for horde side, I see a lot of emote fighting there aswell, some more epic / superhero-like than others and some just plain realistic. Personally I take wow as it is given: A fantasy game where anything is possible within the boundries set by blizzard trying to keep an open mind for the "gray" areas where lore isn't clear. I find it perfectly acceptable that a gun-bullet or even rocket can be stopped by magical armor of special metal even though a sword or another type may cut it like butter. I also find it quite acceptable that a bullet is stopped by a magical shield of light, ice shield or dodged by a rogue activating a near supernatural ability. In extend to this example I find it acceptable to see a rogue magically stealth or disappear in plain sight afterall, it's magic. This discussion reminds me in a way of the discussion about hybrid or halfbreed species a lot of people frown upon. Grande theories were given where including genes and such yet blizzard simply wipes them off the table with the simple lore of a being of pure stone crossbreeding with a male driad. Lore seems pretty clear there: Anything can crossbreed with anything because it's magic, wether people like it or not. Ofcourse how characters IC'ly react to halfbreeds is an entirely different topic. I admit that I break lore myself on a few fronts for the benefit or fun and storylines. In that perspective I can certainly understand people longing for more realism and a lower level of power. Still, we need to remind ourselves that when we do that, are we still roleplaying wow? Or are we roleplaying our own version of wow according to what we'd like it to be? In conclusion I think that roleplay starts and ends with gathering people around you with similiar roleplaying styles and stop trying to force our own preferrence of roleplaying styles upon the wow world. Even if your way may be more lore-correct / realistic / fun / epic / etc. in the end of the day we're all simply here to have fun with our friends in a fantasy game. Roleplay together on the common grounds you have rather than avoid eachother on the difference you can't accept. If you don't like the way someone does an emote battle, then agree not to battle and just keep roleplay at a social non-drama level. Just my humble 2 cents. |
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I don't think I've ever seen so much sense written on these forums in two humble posts, Xenovore.
Well done, sir! |
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@ Xenovore
Well said, I'd agree and at the end of the day that's how it tends to end up anyway. |
