Topic Blinding and roleplaying.
Alassar
Argent Dawn
Alassar
85 Blood Elf Paladin
3845
This topic is not about throwing dirt at people to blind them for a while, but about employing magic to blind other characters.

Is your character able to blind another players character? How, and for how long? Is it an ability that your character uses frequently, and what is your opinion of blinding abilities within roleplay?
Jashia
Argent Dawn
Jashia
85 Draenei Shaman
2460
As a shaman, I suspect that Jashia *could* blow rain/wind towards an opponents eyes, in such a manner that they would have poor, or indeed no eyesight at all.

Never used it though, doubt I ever will either.
Sooraya
Argent Dawn
Sooraya
85 Blood Elf Warlock
5215
I don't really RP fight, but I've written in a story sparking up a small flame to distract/blind momentarily.
Zaanjul
Argent Dawn
Zaanjul
85 Troll Rogue
4225
It's a key part of Zaan'jul's fighting style, also used in RP-PvP. He picks up some dirt with his foot (because troll feet are awesome like that, hell yeah, back toes) and kicks it into his foes' faces.
Amythia
Argent Dawn
Amythia
90 Blood Elf Paladin
8970
I'll set my thoughts here.

Am I able to blind a character: Yes, Amythia is capable.

How long for: I leave that up to the player I've directed it at. I'd never set a stamp on the period in which the effects linger, just as I wouldn't declair how long someone would remain unconcious for. I've seen people shrug it off, I've seen people flail around in disorientation and I've seen people become terrified, believing it to be perminent. Either way, I leave the reaction and effect up to the player themself.

Do I use it frequently: It's situational, really. I don't get into combat all that often, but I wouldn't use a blinding ability more than once.

What do I think of blinding abilites in roleplay: I don't mind them, as long as no one takes advatange of them - and by take advantage, I mean blinding someone and then trying to deliver a deathblow.
Arïel
Argent Dawn
Arïel
90 Blood Elf Paladin
9595
Probably could, never would.
Kyyros
Argent Dawn
Kyyros
90 Draenei Paladin
13245
IC, Kyyros has the creativity and capability to use a bogus Light spell to blind people temporarily who aren't blind already (sort of like a lightbulb right into your eyes) on close range, by mechanics, not so far.

For how long? Well... For as long as it takes for a character's eyes to recover from staring directly into a bright light.

I do not use it frequently, as Kyyros doesn't get into combat frequently, actually, never so far. Emote ones, anyway.

What I think of them... well... If a character is to use it, he can. Assuming the blinded one isn't a statue, crippling might be hard enough, and killing next to impossible, unless you use a nuke. Though I can't say if that assumption is true.
Dalrien
Argent Dawn
Dalrien
85 Blood Elf Paladin
5570
Edited by Dalrien on 26/04/11 07:10 (BST)
You're not able to blind a blind person...

Otherwise, the only way I'd be able to blind other people would be to shine out my sheer awesomeness to everyone
or just casually flash A strong "Light" Infront of their eyes.

Ziyambe
Argent Dawn
Ziyambe
87 Troll Shaman
10800
Edited by Ziyambe on 26/04/11 09:26 (BST)
Is your character able to blind another players character?

Since curses and hexxes are part of any witchdoctor's repertoire of abilities, she probably could, but preparing and casting any of those requires time and effort, so not "just like that" in combat. (I'm not counting "normal" combat abilities, like burning their face with a fire spell - that would also blind someone, until their eyes/face heals, possibly permanently, unless they are trolls - due to regeneration - or are helped with healing magic)

How, and for how long?

How - curses/hexxes/etc.

How long - since they are curses, probably until cleansed/removed by the caster. (though since Voodoo curses involve malevolent spirits, trying to cleanse them might be dangerous for one attempting to do it, as well)

Is it an ability that your character uses frequently, and what is your opinion of blinding abilities within roleplay?

Blinding per se I've never done, preparing and casting a Hex-type spell, once - it wasn't aimed at any specific character then, but at a group of Blood Elves present at the troll settlement, and it was up to their individual players, if they want to RP being cursed or not.
(since trolls first needed to gather some of the "source material" for a curse, like, typically, hair, that allows to introduce the element of randomness and each player deciding on their own, if their elf is affected or not)

As for my own opinion, I think it's fine as long as players involved agree about it, pretty much same as with any other In Character conflict. (and as long as it's done to "build a story" - say, in case of curse, it might influence some character's behaviour, hence enhancing their RP, or they might search for a way to get rid of it, etc. - and not just to harm the other character/as the "I Win" button)
Booga
Argent Dawn
Booga
85 Night Elf Druid
2620
I've been told my stripper's outfit has blinding effects.
Ashkaar
Argent Dawn
Ashkaar
90 Human Warlock
5060
To go a little off topic and have a wince (yey, love those...), I am sick of being a caster and RP fights. While my character is not physically weak, I tend to -always- let my self get beaten and injured before I use any curses or spells, mainly because I think that is fair RP. Sadly, people are redicoulusly immune to damaging spells, or spells over all.

Someone kick me in the belly, I fall over, I get kicked in the face, my nose breaks and I pass out for a moment. Then I wake up, has a sword on my leg and is angry enough to throw a curse or spell. My victim that might be a worgen (oh the superiousness!) roars in anger and throws me across the room.

What the... -.-

I am not after a win, but really, it's getting tiresome...
Ashkaar
Argent Dawn
Ashkaar
90 Human Warlock
5060
Erhm, my point being, I tend to not roleplay things like "blinding" based on my point in the above post.
Ziyambe
Argent Dawn
Ziyambe
87 Troll Shaman
10800
Ashkaar - for that reason I'd only do any "bigger" IC conflict RP with a player I know and trust.
Andromede
Argent Dawn
Andromede
90 Blood Elf Mage
3500
I have blinded someone using a voodoo doll as part of a hex (on a different character, natch. No voodoo here!) and it was quite a fun plot. Andromede wouldn't have any abilities to do it; if she was casting fireballs at your face being blinded would probably be the least of your worries.

You know. If fights with Andromede weren't liable to start with her turning you into a fluffy white rabbit and then running off in tears.

As for using it in fights, blowing dust into the eyes, using a flash of light, possibly shadow magic of some kind, I think it's kind of a cool idea personally, it can be used as a change of pace for the character on the receiving end. I'd take it if it was used on me.

As long as it's not being used as 'aha, I blind you, you are now helpless and I win' in every fight, it's okay by me.

Oh, and also -

26/04/2011 13:42Posted by Ashkaar
I am sick of being a caster and RP fights.


Amen, brother! Over the two mages I've played I don't think I've ever known a single person to take a spell cast at them in an emote fight. Spell emotes are either ignored entirely, 'dodged' or shrugged off somehow or even snippily emote that they're not in 'line of sight' using some hereto unknown bizzaro definition of line of sight which requires something other than having a direct line of sight to the character.

It's bizzare! Even people who don't let themselves be debilitated in combat will still acknowledge that the blows hit them.

I guess there's only so many ways you can keep rolling with a fight once you've had a fireball flung in your chest, but it's still damn annoying!
Suriash
Argent Dawn
Suriash
86 Night Elf Rogue
6840

Blinding was successfully used on me in RP.

Tratius
Argent Dawn
Tratius
90 Human Warlock
5075
Well

Yes Tratius is perfectly capable of blinding someone.
How long for, well it would Vary, generally if i get permission it could be permanant and i would do something like burn your eyes out of their sockets with a fireball if not permanant, then probably something like Shadow tendrils or fel corruption to knock your eyes out of action for a bit, i will leave how long to people

Have i ever done it: Yes i have once on a person who gave me permission to blind their character fully, so i essentially melted her eyes.
When will i do it in future: well whenever the situation arises, i would probably use blinding as a dirty tactic to disarm them or end the fight, however if it fails i will find a different way to win ... or lose.
Ashkaar
Argent Dawn
Ashkaar
90 Human Warlock
5060
I have blinded someone using a voodoo doll as part of a hex (on a different character, natch. No voodoo here!) and it was quite a fun plot. Andromede wouldn't have any abilities to do it; if she was casting fireballs at your face being blinded would probably be the least of your worries.

You know. If fights with Andromede weren't liable to start with her turning you into a fluffy white rabbit and then running off in tears.

As for using it in fights, blowing dust into the eyes, using a flash of light, possibly shadow magic of some kind, I think it's kind of a cool idea personally, it can be used as a change of pace for the character on the receiving end. I'd take it if it was used on me.

As long as it's not being used as 'aha, I blind you, you are now helpless and I win' in every fight, it's okay by me.

Oh, and also -

I am sick of being a caster and RP fights.


Amen, brother! Over the two mages I've played I don't think I've ever known a single person to take a spell cast at them in an emote fight. Spell emotes are either ignored entirely, 'dodged' or shrugged off somehow or even snippily emote that they're not in 'line of sight' using some hereto unknown bizzaro definition of line of sight which requires something other than having a direct line of sight to the character.

It's bizzare! Even people who don't let themselves be debilitated in combat will still acknowledge that the blows hit them.

I guess there's only so many ways you can keep rolling with a fight once you've had a fireball flung in your chest, but it's still damn annoying!


Exactly! It's like the spells are harmless, and I think that is where people go wrong. However, I can see that it's harder to imagine the damage made by a blow on their nose then a frost-bolt that explodes.

So, I tend to stick to agony curses for that same reason. I always whisper the person and ask for permission (aye, it has come to that) and if they agree, I explain that the spell is not harmful, but intensely agonizing. Sometimes it works, most times not...

And for the blinding part... I am pretty sure that I can easily burn the eyes of anyone that deserve it, but hey... Try -that- on in RP! -.-
Talenthiel
Argent Dawn
Talenthiel
90 Blood Elf Warlock
10450
01/05/2011 08:24Posted by Ashkaar
I am sick of being a caster and RP fights


*Curse of Agony hits me, but my adrenaline overrides it.*

No one should have to witness this, be subject to such atrocities as this. No one.

That aside, temporary blinding: Can't say I've ever used it, in terms of a bright flash of light or something of the like, but as long as the opponent doesn't use the time to */e chops your head off 'cause you can't block.* then it's as valid as any other move.
Solbranthius
Argent Dawn
Solbranthius
85 Night Elf Mage
10835
Edited by Randgor on 01/05/11 15:46 (BST)
Yeah, it's amazing how many people roleplay as though their melee orientated fighters are far superior to every spellcaster they come across. I play a battlemage and thus strike a reasonable balance between physical and magical prowess. I'd like to think I pull it off well, but it does grate on my nerves when magic is treated as something to shrug off. There's a reason many mages are distrusted, reclusive and to some extent feared, after all!

As for blinding someone in combat...well, my character tends to fight on honourable terms and thus would not resort to such a thing.

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