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I guess its time for some people tomove on from time that arena was considered as main venue of PvP gear and an "e-sport". Well MLG dropped wow from their schedule cause even their greedy pockets coulnt take Blizzards money without shame and disgust. I like arena on many chars, random and rated BGs but if arena loses its top spot its best that would happen to this game as whole. Many top PvPrs has already quit and moved to more serious PvP games and when we get rid of rest its all like before with 10k less accounts. Not a big loss.
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Not on arena rating for sure. |
*%!* THIS *%!* THIS CHANGE SERIOUSLY i hate you blizz you're making my wow time !@*! :@ calm down & have a nice cup of tea eh ? did this add anything to the discussion ? |
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Edited by Cordd on 13/05/11 09:54 (BST)
OMFG Agree. IMO they should merge RBG's with the normal ones so people can que individually. Add a simple personal rating and group players in small brackets. Like 1500-1800, 1800-2100 and 2100+. Let them play whatever bg they like, but give them a bonus if they que for random or the holiday bg. This would take away the sharp edges of RBG's and would make current normal bgs a bit more interesting and rewarding. |
OMFG most sensible post I have seen to date, Would allow players like me, who are not in PvP oriented guilds have a better chance of making our way up the PvP ladder. bracketed RBGs would be an excellent introduction for a lot of players that do not play arena |
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So, as many of you are interpreting this change, it is to encourage more participation in Rated Battlegrounds. We see the fact that participating in Arenas is by far the superior way of obtaining top-notch PvP gear, in terms of time investment, as a problem. If you want to maximize your Conquest Point gains in patch 4.2, you'll need to participate at least a little bit in Rated Battlegrounds.
We know this may not sound very appealing to those of you who have grown accustomed to spending as little as an hour a week getting the top PvP currency in the game via Arenas over the last couple of expansions. To put things in perspective though, the total number of items that can be purchased with Conquest Points today is much larger than what you used to be able to buy with Arena Points pre-Deathwing world explosion. And there is no longer a requirement to “grind” unrated BGs for Honor each season, so the real time investment isn't changing as much as some players are perceiving it to be. On top of that, the frank reality is that the total time investment required in season 9 to get all your points has been much, much too low, as you could do that from a few 2v2 Arena games each week completed in less than an hour’s time. It shows that Rated Battlegrounds are currently sub-par in terms of the rate at which points can be accumulated. We do feel this change is necessary to keep the time investment vs. high-quality item accumulation in check, even if it doesn't read well on paper. However, as always, your constructive feedback is welcomed. :) |
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I would like to add, that blizzard seems to be making it infinitely harder for people to start arena as in, new PvP`ers who are looking at the 1-1.8k bracket.
There arena team rating is bad, the other day I was stuck against a team with over 500 team rating HIGHER than my team. Another thing annoying bad is trying to find a server where there is a equal amount of players PvP wise, I refuse at the moment to go to another server while trying to find server where basically im stuck at the same problem as I am now, either a lack of players wanting to RBG / or do serious Arena teams or simply a imbalance of waiting 45mins for a match. Why not just bin some of your servers, move players say on alliance in X server to Y server that is DESPERATELY in need of alliance?? Even make it as a good bag or a pet / etc etc like dungeons but you can only do it once every 3 months. This way you could at least HELP the problem rather than constant patches focusing on raiding, while its nice for the PvE guys you must remember ALOT of players play this game for the PvP, I don't see why you can not do a PvP patch, a PvE patch. |
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So, as many of you are interpreting this change, it is to encourage more participation in Rated Battlegrounds. We see the fact that participating in Arenas is by far the superior way of obtaining top-notch PvP gear, in terms of time investment, as a problem. If you want to maximize your Conquest Point gains in patch 4.2, you'll need to participate at least a little bit in Rated Battlegrounds. Have you even tired for example to get a RBG on say 20% of your servers with just your own GM char and nothing else?? Getting a rated battleground on my server is akin to getting a holy grail. Why not make it either a 5 or 10 man team to enter, finding 10 people on my server to do RBG is so hard ive resolved in the fact im going to have to rerole AGAIN paying another fee to enjoy a game your currently not trying to help with as you view (blizzard) that we will just put up with it. |
But hey let's be honest. Gratz for not considering that casuals get only 1343 points for week, that means that in order to full the slots they have to wait about 5 months. It's true that it's not that time consuming, but 5 months to fill the slots is a quite a LOT of time, considering that the pros take less than half of the time and casuals see a new season to start the second they have filled the last slot, thus having to start over again. |
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Wouldn't it be better to have a shared cap, but adjust the points earned from RBG and arena so that the ratio of points gained over time spent both playing and organizing is the same?
Of course, since RBG require much more time to organize, the ratio of points over time _played_ would be in significant favor of RBGs (maybe 2-5 times that of arena?) |
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So, as many of you are interpreting this change, it is to encourage more participation in Rated Battlegrounds. We see the fact that participating in Arenas is by far the superior way of obtaining top-notch PvP gear, in terms of time investment, as a problem. If you want to maximize your Conquest Point gains in patch 4.2, you'll need to participate at least a little bit in Rated Battlegrounds. I'll be joining the 600k already left. You identify the problem as gear being too easy to get from Arena. Why not increase the costs, rather than force players to do something they dont want to? Im on a PvP realm, RBGs require top notch gear already to participate in. To get the top gear, we have to already have the top gear? |
Dumb change to force people into RBGs who do not want to do them. Ok so they aren't as popular as you wanted but why not try to address the problems of that system rather than attempting to just shove people into them. I rarely to never see anyone looking for RBGs in /2 I don't want to join a pvp guild But mostly.... I don't want to join RBGs. Anyway this was the straw the broke the camel's back for me. I will not be forced into doing something I don't want to do so I just won't do it anymore. |
Just one more for you. Stop getting Consuela from Family Guy to write your patch notes, otherwise this thread would have never existed and never needed clarification. WE DO NOT NEED MORE LEMON PLEDGE. |
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Can't be forced to do that so simply put, No. Why should I transfer and invest more money in something I do not want? I believe I saw once a LFM RBG on my server, but that's it so now am I supposed to manage my play time with this too because RBG's are not popular? These are not arguments and setting up left type enforced laws in a virtual world does not sound appealing at all. |
I'm not sure I believe this is the reason for the change. Wouldn't it have been far, far simpler just to reduce the amount of CPs won from an arena game. As that would increase the time it takes to accumulate enough points for the gear, and not cause a huge outrage at being forced to RGBs. Maybe I've missed something, but that seems like a simpler, less controversial way of going about it. |
