Topic Patch 4.2: We Bid Thy Keyring Adieu
Bryce
Aggramar
Bryce
4 Human Warrior
0
Look, we don't need a keyring button, just let it be a hotkey or selectable from the menu or clock or minimap or something, BUT DON'T REMOVE IT!
Yeowth
Neptulon
Yeowth
90 Night Elf Druid
8260
lol this change. :P It is an improvement, i admit, but lol
Sandok
Emerald Dream
Sandok
90 Human Paladin
6650
Edited by Sandok on 23/05/11 21:01 (BST)
New feature in 4.3: Cross-realm keyring, all keys now carry over between realms. Due to the incredible technological feat, certain elements of the cross-realm keyring system will be premium-based, though you only need to pay us extra money to actually use the keys that are stored in your key ring.
Jito
Emerald Dream
Jito
MVP - World of Warcraft, Diablo III
85 Gnome Priest
13245
23/05/2011 20:27Posted by Plethius
Affection alone doesn't warrent supporting an outdated game system.


does this apply to "Affection alone doesnt warrant supporting an outdated game", your posts jito have been condescending and argumentative, people are presenting thier views for and against the new change, in a few days this sticky will have died and no one will bother with it anymore and blizzard will just go ahead with the change anyway. i believe affection plays a very important part of the game, and is one of the many reasons people still play it.

Very true (will try to be less cons...condes...appear less superior in my writing as well, sorry :/).

Anyway, I'm not saying feelings don't matter here, they do. And I'm not against the keychain either or whatever. It's not like the keychain is my sworn nemesis :P

But when Blizzard comes out and says "Hey, this space the keychain takes up is space we would really like to use for other things, and since we've already phased out the keys a bit before, and since the keychain takes up storage space, and so on, we would like to remove it completly".

Then I'm cool with that. They have good reasons for doing what they want to do, and their intentions are good as well.

Do I feel a little affection for the keys I have? Absolutly. I have all the keys I can have, and have always sought to collect as many different keys as possible. So I get the notion of loving to collect keys.
But at the same time, my affection for my keys and my keychain just doesn't outweight Blizzard's reasoning here.
There isn't enough meat on the keychain and the keys (so to speak :P) to feel a huge amount of affection for them. A little, sure, but not a lot. So my only point here is that affection alone is not a strong enough point as to why they shouldn't remove the keychain. I mean, if you really feel that they should keep the keychain in the game, then you gotta have more arguments than the "because I like it". That can be used for anything in the game. And if that trumped logic and reason by default, then Blizzard could never make any changes to the game. And that's not fair.
Mínako
Darkmoon Faire
Mínako
85 Human Warrior
7020
Removing the keyring?? why? I quite liked the fact that keys were stored in their own individual space, and if they are to be removed, will areas like Karazhan be openable without a key? which I admit would be quite handy and useful for those people making groups for instances like this. But as I'm a blacksmith and tend to make skeleton keys from time to time...what will happen to those?

So...overall this change may be good or it may be bad, we'll just have to see what happens.
Hebuba
Ravencrest
Hebuba
85 Night Elf Priest
14050
I can't see this change serving anyone. It's only purpose to annoy people with 0 to 10(ish) less bag space and to free 0.2mm from the UI.
Frizzlewits
Burning Steppes
Frizzlewits
85 Goblin Shaman
11295
23/05/2011 17:50Posted by Snicksnack
What will happen with the TBC rings you need to get into Hcs?


hopefully removed as that system is outdated.
Minzck
Moonglade
Minzck
85 Dwarf Hunter
4660
Does this mean that I'll get a feat of strength for having the key to Searing Gorge when the keyring is finally removed? :o)
Crevan
Darksorrow
Crevan
87 Gnome Rogue
15485
I'll repeat what's been already mentioned a few times - make keys learnable spells, like pets and mounts.
Horridius
Darksorrow
Horridius
85 Human Mage
3180
It seems like they want to change everything, why remove another thing that has been in the game for so long.
Drothar
Shadowsong
Drothar
85 Undead Warrior
2805
23/05/2011 21:07Posted by Hebuba
I can't see this change serving anyone. It's only purpose to annoy people with 0 to 10(ish) less bag space and to free 0.2mm from the UI.


Get bigger bags. 18 or 20 slot ones cost barely anything.

Also why does everyone forget that this also frees up memory that is being wasted on a pointless little slot, as well as the UI space. Which the OP explicitly stated.
Энигмафури
Razuvious
Энигмафури
90 Worgen Warlock
15285
This is maddnes!

DO NOT TOUCH MY KEYS!

blizzard failed once again
Samvimes
Frostmane
Samvimes
90 Human Warrior
10000
Well your current suggestion is not thought through. This is what you could do:

Keep keyring and leave things the way they are.

Make the changes your doing now but make all bags 50 slot. (loosing bag space is not an option)

Remove all keys from the game and all things that require keys.

any1 else with more suggestions :).

Hebuba
Ravencrest
Hebuba
85 Night Elf Priest
14050
23/05/2011 21:21Posted by Thorbull
I can't see this change serving anyone. It's only purpose to annoy people with 0 to 10(ish) less bag space and to free 0.2mm from the UI.


Get bigger bags. 18 or 20 slot ones cost barely anything.

Also why does everyone forget that this also frees up memory that is being wasted on a pointless little slot, as well as the UI space. Which the OP explicitly stated.

Sure with your logic mounts and pets could still be like keys are becoming. UI space is the 0.2cm and memory? oh boy.
Rosanne
Executus
Rosanne
90 Human Priest
10020
People have called out for vanity item space to safe up bagspace, because it's such a large amount when you really want to keep the goodies.
People who have played for at least two expansions will have fond memories in items that they used, crafted or otherwise obtained from a truly epic battle. Fond memories that - granted - do take bagspace.

Bagsize has always been very tightly scaling with the amount of items a person has. Usually it's just not enough. My bags keep bulging on every side on all my characters.

To think that my keys which I have been collecting ever since vanilla will now start taking in bagspace... I wonder if I was delirious from smoking somewhere weird when I read it. Thing is, I don't smoke and I didn't take anything likewise.

It's always disappointing to hear that Blizzard doesn't listen to its customers - with all due respect and referring to the vanity item bagspace - which makes this a second occasion in one week where I have to start questioning the companies credibility.

http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/about/mission.html
Does it hold any value to the company at all?
Rocheku
Outland
Rocheku
85 Orc Hunter
13790
Hold on now yo, whats going to happen to keys like the ones to unlock TBC heroic? (not like i ever visit them, but you never know when i need to for guild achiebs or whatevs) Cant have a !!*#load of keys in my bags and bankslots that are already stuffed with vanity junk.
Hebuba
Ravencrest
Hebuba
85 Night Elf Priest
14050
According the blue, keys that are still needed (TBC heroics, karazhan, malygos, Algalon for instance) will be stored in your regular bags. Why wouldn't you enjoy a feature makin' everyones gameplay experience better.
Mephrite
Saurfang
Mephrite
90 Human Mage
12520
This news makes me sad.

First at all, old "Keymaster" achievement was removed, when Shattering come to Azeroth. I spend so much time to get all these keys (for example, key to Karazhan). After Shattering "Keymaster" wasn't even a FoS achiev. Now half of my keys was deleted...

And now this... It's a shame, because now I see, that was wasting of my time. Why should I bother key to Kara (BC content), when I came in WotLK times? Only for achie, that today don't exist, even like FoS...
Isseit
Sporeggar
Isseit
85 Dwarf Paladin
6775
This is great, my Keyring was making UI fiddling a bit of a pain.

Finally gives me a reason to get rid of all those BS keys I had, and make sure I do some cleaning up in my bank with all the tat I never use anyway.
Deathrod
Azshara
Deathrod
90 Undead Mage
13465
Yeah Blizz keep on ruining this game goddamit...

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