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Right, so i've playing a couple different comps lately, most recently KFC. And every single time we meet a TSG i just wobble to my inevitable death, usually within the first 30 secs.. :(

I know the basic concept is pretty much: pop ps once they're on you and try to get distance with 4 sec freedom shield while your partners peels until you can get around a pillar and heal some.
NOW the problem is ruins of lordaeron and dalaran arena. WTF am i supposed to do here? As soon as they catch me in the middle its over.. throwdown into strang into hoj (dr'd yes, but still) all while stacking 1000000000000000 ns on me AND a 30% cast time debuff while trying to juke 2 kicks + a death grip.

Seriously i'm a loss here and really don't know what to do against that comp, any tips are appreciated.

Shadowmeld in the start and hope they don't find you. Other than that, good luck.

11/06/2011 03:59Posted by Bluestahli

Shadowmeld in the start and hope they don't find you. Other than that, good luck.

This

Stay shadowmelted at the start or try to avoid them by lossing and staying mounted untill your teammates opened.
Tbh at ruins i usually stay in the starting area untill isee my teammates applied at least some pressure. Getting charged to early can mean a fast loss.

with your setup
i think you can't handle them at all if they now what they are doing
(go on you and not be backpedalers and clickers)
you won't last after your cds breh end of story not enough peel for you

Why isn't it obvious to people? You run from them, you kite them, you dont let both of them on you at the same time.

11/06/2011 05:39Posted by Lèyla

Why isn't it obvious to people? You run from them, you kite them, you dont let both of them on you at the same time.

It's fine, they're immune to fear xDxDxD

11/06/2011 07:31Posted by Bettypancake

Why isn't it obvious to people? You run from them, you kite them, you dont let both of them on you at the same time.

It's fine, they're immune to fear xDxDxD

Neither are "immune" to fear, and you've already !%@@ed up if you let both get on in the beginning.

11/06/2011 07:34Posted by Lèyla

Neither are "immune" to fear, and you've already !%@@ed up if you let both get on in the beginning.

It's fine. It's no secret that I don't know how to do arena.

On Ruins you basically gonna have to try to stay in the outskirts of the map, hopefully forcing them to not overextend themselves.

Other than that. Abandon all hope

Edit: As long as the paladin got cds they can overextend themselves and go ultra ofensive. So as stupid as it may sound, you have to "outlast" TSG

Thats the point of TSG, you can't survive it no matter how skilled you and your partners are. Cause if the TSG means Totaly Slaugthered Goat (Goat Healer).

Holy Paladin: Damn its TSG this gonna be hard, but im skilled and have several years experience from Arena

TSG DK: I'm in your face whatz you gonna do about it bro?

Holy Paladin: I can't do nothing

TSG Warrior: I'm in your face whatz you gonna do about it bro?

Holy Paladin: Nothing since i can't do anything about it.

Holy Paladin: Damn im at 80% in a Second, time to Heal.

Holy Paladin: Good did succesfully fake cast the DK

Holy Paladin: Good did succesfully fake cast the Warrior

Holy Paladin: Time to finaly Heal

TSG Holy Paladin: Or not, i just Rebuked you

Holy Paladin: Omfg you kidding me Blizzard? They got 3 Interupts i need to fake cast? And if the TSG players know any math. They will just make sure i take 3,33 Second to fake cast each Interupt and then they will have 1 Interupt ready again.

And even if he doesn't get Interupted by TSG's Holy Paladins Rebuke TSG got this:

Rebuke 10 Second CD
Mind Freeze 10 Second CD
Pummel 10 Second CD
Throwdown 45 Second CD
MS -10% Healing 4.5 Second CD
Improved Hamstring 7 Second Root 1 Min CD
Charge which can be used as Interupt 13 Second CD
Death Grip 25 Second CD
Hungering Cold 1 Min CD
Strangulate 1 Min CD/2 Min CD
Necrotic Strike XXXX Absorbs & +30 Cast Time on Players Spells
Hammer of Justice 1 Min CD
Avenging Wrath + Divine Favor + Exorcism Spam

You know Hijaa. Holy Paladins may be the weakest healer, but against melee cleaves they can survive ALOT longer than other healers.

I would say, in order of easiest to kill:

Holy priest, druid, disc priest, paladin, shaman.

Melee cleave fastest kills:

1. Holy Priest
2. Holy Paladin
3. Resto Shaman
4. Resto Druid
5. Disc Priest

Easiests on top and Hardest on bottom, but ofc no matter how the list looks like all die super easy against TSG.

Paladins is the only healer that counter TSG dude

Melee cleave fastest kills:

1. Holy Priest
2. Holy Paladin
3. Resto Shaman
4. Resto Druid
5. Disc Priest

Easiests on top and Hardest on bottom, but ofc no matter how the list looks like all die super easy against TSG.

Ugh what, firstly Resto Druid is probably the easiest healer for melee cleaves to kill while Resto Shaman is without doubt the hardest.

11/06/2011 09:47Posted by Rebuked

Paladins is the only healer that counter TSG dude

Rofl actually no Healer atm counters TSG since they are just delaying there death.

And also you are big time wrong and i will show you why:

Holy Paladin V.s Frost Death Knight & Arms Warrior

1. Holy Paladin pops Divine Shield aka Bubble

2. Divine Shield aka Bubble last either 8 or 2 Seconds, depends if the Warrior uses Shattering Throw

3. Holy Paladin pops Aura Master, but he gets Throwdowned so its wasted on nothing

4. Holy Paladin pops Hand of Freedom & Holy Radiance and try to run away but either Warrior Charges or Death Knight Death Grip

5. Voila Holy Paladin has 0 chance now sinces hes few Cooldowns are used.

Disc Priest V.s Frost Death Knight & Arms Warrior

1. Disc Priest pops Pain Suppression which make the Priest take -40% Damage for 8 Second

2. Disc Priest now tosses Power Word: Shield on himself and heals him for 20% of the absorb amount and gets shield which absorb decent amount, he also tosses Renew on him.

3. Disc Priest no longer has 100% HP and there for tosses Prayer of Mending on him.

4. Disc Priest uses Power Word: Barrier which make the Priest take -25% Damage for 8 Second

5. Disc Priest uses Desperate Prayer and Heal 30% of HP

6. If Priest is lucky he will survive long enough for next Bubble.

11/06/2011 11:28Posted by Hìjaalhumble

1. Holy Paladin pops Divine Shield aka Bubble

Is that the first thing you do? o_O

11/06/2011 11:28Posted by Hìjaalhumble

3. Holy Paladin pops Aura Master, but he gets Throwdowned so its wasted on nothing

Yo dawg heard theres a thing called trinket. Maybe these rumours are false.

just leave and Queue again, goes much faster.