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Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QArB6u3LXQ4&feature=channel_video_title


If you don't understand exactly what you're looking at, I'll try to explain with another analogy than the one used in the video.

Look at your forum avatar, take a square around your character's eye, and put it up to the night sky in the darkest most empty part you can find. This was done with the Hubble Space Telescope. The image shown and explained in the video was the result.

It's stunningly beautiful!

As said in the video Id be baffled if we are alone. In the observable universe alone there are more galaxies then there are grains of sand on earth, each containing about 100 billion stars. The numbers are simply astronomically large. Life is bound to have shown up somewhere among those. Especialy seeing how even complex organic molecules like RNA and proteins are fairly easy to make, and therefor common in the universe.

FBI and NSA recently unclassified after 60 years two documents, that hints that there is alien life.

26/06/2011 15:23Posted by Korhán

FBI and NSA recently unclassified after 60 years two documents, that hints that there is alien life.

Seeing the fact that there is no cheering in the streets or widespread talk about this I highly doubt thats what in those documents. A link would be nice.

Besides, the FBI and NSA doesn't give 2 %@*%s about alien life, Absolutely no reason it hasn't been published 60 years ago then.

FBI link

http://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/Guy%20Hottel%20Part%201%20of%201/view

NSA link.

http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/key_to_et_messages.pdf


Edit: I posted wrong linkes, here are the correct ones.

The first link has no mention of alien life, only a weather balloon of project Mogul designed to detect nuclear explosions in russia

The second doesnt even link to a specific journal, just a load of random ones of various subjects.

I think you're seeing things that arn't there son.

The first link has no mention of alien life, only a weather balloon of project Mogul designed to detect nuclear explosions in russia

The second doesnt even link to a specific journal, just a load of random ones of various subjects.

I think you're seeing things that arn't there son.

Your right, the first links were bad. ><

Check the edit.

Well this didnt take long to debunk.

http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/et_intelligence.pdf

It was a test on code breaking skill :P

Search belgian ufo wave, jal ufo encounter, phoenix light, iraq ufo, ramblesham forest.

These are events that have been recorded by many military/civilian witnesses and radar footage that show craft doing stunts none of ours can even come close to, and no scientist can explain these events.

They want hard evidence first though before confirming it like a part of an alien technology or dna perhaps (thats how scientists are), but it's pretty obvious we have been visited by some other lifeform or a probe from another civilization already, but for some reason it's hardly ever brought up, people care more who the next idol is gonna be instead -_-

People care about non crackpottery. There has literally been 0 evidence to suggest any alien life has visited earth (excluding pan**%*%ia theory of the origins of life)

There has been phenomena that are unexplained but that is not evidence. Ball lightning used to be thought to be aliens, turned out to be just a very rare form of lightning.

Ball lightning or any other natural event doesn't adjust it's speed midflight to match the speed of an airliner exactly for several minutes to hover in front of the plane for the pilot to discribe it and gets picked up by both civilian and military radar installations to confirm it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not one to believe stuff instantly, you rationally think about it, try to think if anything we know is capable of doing it, but you can't.

The maneuvres from an object that were picked up by radar that go at lightning fast speed and change direction midflight, something we don't have yet, can only mean one thing.

It probably was an unintended event, some race might have send out probes across the universe, just like we do with our satellites, so they can find another race out there.
They might be in the exact situation as us, trying to find other lifeforms besides their own in the universe, only they got to us before we could them.

Maybe they thought, meh that planet in that sector is probably uninhabited but let's check it out if we can find some resources on it, then oops! it actually has lifeforms on it!

I never claimed they are all ball lightning, it is however a good example of how a phenomena that was thought to be alien but was in fact strange behaviours of things we knew of.

Like compare ball lightning to regular lightning. Lightning is a line in the sky fast and bright. Ball lightning is a slow moving ball at ground level.

Just because something exhibits strange behaviour does not make it alien it just makes it strange and unknown and requiring investigation.


Aliens exist. If that isnt true then something is really fishy :P
The chances of them having visited our solar system is actually very high (all be it their probes). The chances of them being here while we have been is very low. this is simply due to the drake equation and time. Given the length of time and very conservative estimates on how frequently space faring life might crop up that creates probes then it turns out quite likely that a probes passed through our galaxy at some point.


[S p e r m] is filtered.... why?! [p a n s p e r m i a] was the word that got filtered in my last post.

The odds of their being other lifeforms in the universe are extremely high if we think of the universe as a natural creation. If the universe is an artificial creation then who knows.

Should aliens already know of our existance which is possible there is not alot anyone can do. Any data we send to them would not be recieved until long past its relevance, should ball lightning be some form of data collection it would work using physics far in advance of anything we understand, possibly utilising other dimentions to move data across large distances.
If it's being used then clearly they have no means of getting here and have to rely on long range energy to collect data, so once again no aliens.
I have no doubt we will one day meet alien life but that time is not soon. Hopefully we will be able to find life elsewhere in the solarsystem.

As Michio Kaku puts it, we're nothing more than ants to a Type 3 civilization. (A Type 3 is a type that can travel the whole galaxy.)

Besides, any alien race that can receive our signals would conclude that there is no intelligent life here on Earth. Think long and hard about what we spam space with in terms of TV.

You mean Jersey Shore is not high quality entertainment that shows off our civilization as advanced?

What energy source do you estimate would provide enough energy to launch us to Type I?

If Aliens announce their presence there is a 50% chance we will end up like the native south Americans when the Spaniards arrived.

Odd, I posted in another thread but my post went here?

Whatever, it's a mystery I'll solve later. By myself.

What energy source do you estimate would provide enough energy to launch us to Type I?

I'm a Journalist, not a Scientist. Science is just a hobby of mine. Specifically, Cosmology and Astrophysics.

That being said, I think Fusion is the way forward. (HOT Fusion)