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Weaving new races into Lore
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Naga and Murlocs are a popular topic for the new races of either faction. To me, it seems realistic that Murlocs would be Alliance and Naga would be Horde. Also, lets talk about possible race traits and any other factors, like city, starting levels and stuff.
I'd like to see how these two would join in a realistic Lorewise way. ------------------ Naga; Most people should already know that the Naga leader and Godess has been killed by Vol'jin and the Darkspear. This would throw the race into disarray and with no true home they might perhaps swim into deeper waters, perhaps even the destroyed island of Kezan and the Lost isles. It would be here that the remaining Naga would come in contact with the Goblins (this is where things become difficult), possibly Orcs and others looking for a strategic/new place to settle. Now the Naga are tired and weary from the long travel, even more destraught over the lose of their leader. It is entirely possible that they would either surrender, or be over-come easily. Sold as slaves, captured, killed or possibly, due to their knowledge of Night Elves, be a valuable Ally for the Horde's movement into Ashenvale. Racial traits; Water Wise: Extra 10% to critical frost or water damage and improved Water Elemental for mages. Scaled for Speed; +20% speed when swimming. Ancestry; The Naga know the movement of their Night Elf brothers and sisters and therefore have an increased chance to dodge when fighting against a Night Elf, High Elf or Blood Elf. Shore Leave; From leaving the waters and moving onto land, the Naga have found that their bodies are not fit for the harsher earth. They have a chance to increase the armour rating on anything they create through Blacksmithing. ------------------------ Murlocs; One particular Gnome on Blood Myst Isle has been doing his best to increase relations and learn more and more about Murlocs, who up until now have been devoted to the same God as the Naga but differences have been made and the Murlocs have become increasingly afraid of their exaulted friend of the sea. After their enslavement and the destruction of their homes across the coast. (As seen in the Blasted Lands) A freed group of Murlocs run into the arms of this unusual Ally seeking help, freedom and a place to stay safe. The Murlocs get their wish and now live amoungst the docks, canals and rivers of Stormwind. These creatures are easy to manage, they care for themselves, live in modest twig-made homes, eat little and offer improved fishing techniques, capable, somewhat strange, fighters plus they offer a great insight into the Horde's new Allies. Racial traits; Gilled for the Kill; When standing in water the Murloc has increased range and stronger Melee attacks. Master of Mucus; Murlocs have a chance to poison or paralize a melee attacker. Gggrrrfllfggfr; Complications with communications means the Murloc have a -10% effect to their reputation. Fish out of water; The time it takes to catch fish has been reduced by half. |
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This would be a nice for a new expansion, like something to do with the oceans
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Eh... I don't think so.
Naga: Alliance AND Horde hate them. Ever gone to Vashj'ir? The Naga want you dead, no matter what race. The Trolls are the Nagas nemesis race, as they have been fighting for so long. And the Goblins hate them too. Murlocs: Alliance have so many quests against Murlocs. Murlocs murder innocent humans and other Alliance races. They also hate the Alliance. |
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They would obviously have to be certain tribes or covens of these races.
Like the Darkspear Trolls |
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Eh... I don't think so. Lets... look at the races so far; Blood Elves hate Trolls and Orcs due to long, violent and bloody wars and are Hated by Tauren, Blood Elves also hate every other race but are in the Horde because they need Allies against the Scourge and the Horde needs a strong position in Outland. Why Blood Elves and not Naga? Tauren see Night Elves as a Godly race to be honored and respected for their unique kinship to nature yet are still united with the Horde against them and enable the destruction of Ashenvale and Azshara. Even though Humans basically allowed the High Elves to die off, High Elves reside in Alliance Lands. Goblins are not people to turn down a good deal no matter who the buyer/seller is. And you can't tell me that Humans/Dwarves/Gnomes have a fantastic relationship with nature hugging, traditional, machine-hating, ever-lasting Elves? |
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Eh... I don't think so. No, Murlocs still wouldn't work. As for the Blood Elves, they were only accepted due to their magical abilities helping the Horde. What would the Naga supply? Not much. That, and the Naga would never team up with either faction. Yeah, let's team up with the Faction that killed our leaders! |
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The Naga are the Yin to the Blood Elf Yang; the Druid to the Mage; Nature to Arcane.
What do they have to offer? An untold knowledge of Dark Druidism and animal magic, a rich understanding of a misunderstood terrain and element. Strength and willpower which matches Orcs perfectly and you don't seem to understand that survival is a more powerful influence than anything else. The naga have enemys on all sides and are dwindling and loosing time and time again. If they get desparate enough they might join a faction, what do they hope to get? The same thing as the Tauren, the Trolls, the Orcs, Bilgewater and the Forsaken. Each Horde race has been misplaced and where once on the brink of destruction. The Tauren needed Thunderbluff, the Orcs needed Orgrimmar, the Trolls needed their isles, the Goblins need Azshara and the Naga need to rebuild their temples and possibly hope to reclaim Night Elf lands. It might never happen, but it is a fun possibility. |
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Yeah, would be awesome, but Lore-Wise, I doubt it.
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Forget it, would never work. Nagas are hostile to all, and it has been stated quite many times that they never venture far from water, due to them needing it to survive at all. Highly unlikely to spot a naga in Southern Barrens then for example, or on Mount Hyjal/Winterspring (not to mention how it wouldn't make sense to raid with them in Firelands, they'd turn into fish fries instantly).
Murlocs hates and are hated by all races, mostly because they are hostile to all non-murlocs. Also, same thing would apply on them as with Nagas: Water. Ever seen murlocs far from water? No, because they need it to survive! Just forget this nonsense about adding those into playable races, they just won't fit in any way possible. |
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Ahem...
Alright; Owlkin, Furbolg, Sporreggar, Dragonkin, Centaur, ect. Pick a race and see if you can weave it in lorewise. |
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I was hoping for the ogre to be made a horde race.. gehehe they are awsume
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Or the oafs that the goblins own. They could gain independence or something. And lore-wise, they could end up being in tight spots cos they're stupid :P
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Edited by Fodmunkio on 25/07/11 23:36 (BST)
These guys would make a brilliant new race! Their lore is new, and not yet developed like the others, they can sway in any way. Be it to the horde, or alliance. What classes they can play would also be fairly easy to work with. Story: Having lived independent of any faction for a large period of time the Sporeling race had suffered a great deal of hardships in their hostile surroundings. However, as the Cenarian exhibition arrived from Azeroth, they were saved from extinction by their forces. But, as the days went by, interest in the Sporeggar race by the druids decreased, and as the cataclysm hit, many left Zangarmarsh to deal with the Nordrassil situation. However with the coming of the (Insert new threat here) the activities of the (Ogres/naga/whatever) Have suddenly boosted! The sporeggar have been placed in a terrible situation, which has caused a schism in leadership! The Sporeggar locals have stayed neutral, while the many renegades have made a desperate plea to the (Horde/Alliance) To save them from extinction, in return for some of the greastest alchemical formulas in existance! |
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If Vrykul became a playable race, I'd never play Blood Elf again.
I imagine they could be woven into -Horde- lore (they're too brutal to be Alliance) after being left desolate after the demise of their "death god", and could have joined forces with the Horde through some diplomatic expeditionary forces. |
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Ogres are probably the most obvious new race for the Horde. As for the Alliance, I don't know, furbolgs (though they got enough furries with the worgen)?
Naga and murlocs? I don't think so. Only one of the Horde races has had friendly dealings with the naga and that didn't end up well. Murlocs are too simple and mrrgly. |
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Edited by Zixxle on 26/07/11 00:04 (BST)
Might want to double check that. The trolls killed a powerful naga leader, but that's it. THE leader is Azshara who is countless times stronger than the one they killed, and still very much alive deep in the depths of the sea. Naga and murlocs are both hated by both Horde and Alliance as a whole. There are -some- neutral murlocs. usually desperate/weak ones and even fewer neutral naga, only one I can think of. As cool as it would be to roll them, currently the lore makes this almost impossible. Saying that though, Blizz could easily shoe-horn some mediocre lore in and make a small sect of them suddenly friendly. |
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Wrong, Vrykul aren't savages, they are just simple normal living giants. As many quests stated before they were the ancestor's of the humans, although they have a growing hate against because of their "evolution" misleading into something called "curse" they abandoned their descendants for their own will to survive. Im pretty sure that the quest involving visions the Vrykul Woman has given birth to a baby who says it has the "curse" and so the mother then stated "i will take him/her far away from here". As so they would be more fitting for Alliance at some points more viable than joining a mysterious "alien" faction known as the Horde. Vrykul aren't savages or brutal, that is just heir style of action. |
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Naga: Dont have legs. No legs, no shoes nor pants gear.
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Edited by Tannys on 26/07/11 07:24 (BST)
Draenei, tauren and trolls do well without boots. All they ever get are legwarmers. Naga can have tailwarmers or some funny designerwear for the tip of it. |
