Topic 4.3 Warrior ( PVP ) Quit or forgive?
Merkava
Sunstrider
Merkava
85 Orc Warrior
3325
Bladestorm isnt doing any dmg and its too long CD to be used to break roots (read novas). I play a rogue also and did 1 feint when warrior started to bladestorm then I just stood still having recuperate on and when the bladestorm ended I was fully healed gg.
Arena works the best with skilled (or even semi-skilled) Holy Paladin in 2v2. Of course when you got a personal healer/dispeller you can keep up with a mage and other "run away" classes. But I think the qq is more about 1v1 pvp. Tbh I dont give a flying fcuk about losing to a "run away" class in 1v1, but give me back my 50% mortal strike effect! That would even out a lot.
Peace.
Aggrona
Darksorrow
Aggrona
85 Orc Warrior
2565
I'm enjoying warrior.

I'm not enjoying warrior forums. Full of crybabies complaing they cant beat "x" class.
Aggrona
Darksorrow
Aggrona
85 Orc Warrior
2565
, but give me back my 50% mortal strike effect! That would even out a lot.
Peace.


The reason all mortal strike effects are now 10% across the board (Any healing reduction is now 10%) is because PvP healing is nerfed by about 20-30% already, this was all posted by a blue before cata came out. We dont notice much of a difference because of the major over-haul in stat-changes.

My hunter used to have 50% MS effect too (aimed shot debuff) but now its 10%, like MS and dispellable as its a posion. Learn to deal with an effect nerf that is across the board and not clas sspecific.
Tiax
Shattered Halls
Tiax
85 Orc Warrior
0
Edited by Tiax on 07/09/11 00:40 (BST)
4.3 better bring some nice changes otherwise I quit as well.
Feedmegnomez
The Maelstrom
Feedmegnomez
85 Blood Elf Death Knight
2710
Why a war currently sucks;

Unlike other melee classes, our "cc" ie, throwdown, is melee ranged
ALL our abilities are physical and melee ranged, resulting in dodges and parries, unlike other melee classes (including peels and damage setup)
Dispel dependant
Snare requires a GCD
Crap damage vs armour
SW sacrifices all offensive output
Charge jumping
Smackit
Stormrage
Smackit
85 Blood Elf Warrior
0
Agreed Charge Jumping is really really annoying.

quit? UGH! MY WARRIOR IS SUX! I R QUIT! jesus, man the !@#$ up.
Eigol
Outland
Eigol
90 Human Warrior
6075
Couldn't care less what happens tbh, i'm doing fine at the moment and i doubt a nerf is on the way.
Littlepills
Trollbane
Littlepills
3 Human Warrior
0
CoolNameBro
Theizor
Laughing Skull
Theizor
85 Undead Warrior
3925
sadly Blizzard cant make good games anymore, blizzard...... just quit wow and try to get another jobb, this wont work anymore // The Warriors around the world.
Ramboness
Ravencrest
Ramboness
85 Human Warrior
5790
, but give me back my 50% mortal strike effect! That would even out a lot.
Peace.


The reason all mortal strike effects are now 10% across the board (Any healing reduction is now 10%) is because PvP healing is nerfed by about 20-30% already, this was all posted by a blue before cata came out. We dont notice much of a difference because of the major over-haul in stat-changes.

My hunter used to have 50% MS effect too (aimed shot debuff) but now its 10%, like MS and dispellable as its a posion. Learn to deal with an effect nerf that is across the board and not clas sspecific.



Dunno if I would take advice from a ALT like you.
Sharidan
Saurfang
Sharidan
88 Blood Elf Warrior
8955
How many of you guys are going to quit warrior / WoW if they don't get buffed in pvp in patch 4.3 ?

Me personally, am tired of waiting.
Warrior is kite'able by every class, and cannot keep up with any class - if they try.

This isn't really a QQ post in my opinion, Im just wondering how many players feel the same way, but if calling me a whiny little baby makes you feel better, go ahead.

Cheers


Not to sound bad but, do u use piercing howl often?
Thats meant to not get kited as much :P
Vileshadow
Terokkar
Vileshadow
85 Undead Rogue
2990
Warriors are in a disgraceful sate atm, one of the worst for some time, cata promised good things for warriors and all it did was turn them into midless tunneling dmgbots for a period of time and now without that or mobility they have nothing and are quite frankly just pitiful.

In mained warrior all through wotlk, loved it, through the good and bad, when cata dropped I quit and came back to a frenzy of faceroller warriors living up the eazymode playstyle, it was disgusting and I refused to level or play mine.

Most of the good warriors I know quit or rerolled and the ones I knew that 'loved' the new changes were fotm baddies anyway, now a couple monthes down the line the devs have got the old warrior ping pong game out and sucker punched them with a overnerf (nerf was needed but it was overdone- as usual).

Our abilites have been passed around so much that what a warrior is just a worse version of everything else tbh. So whatever framework they're working with for warriors, whatever their idea of warriors is, it needs to change and roll with the times as other classes have.

Quite frankly the sitaton we find ourselves in yet again is where we have the some tools but they're heavily outweighted by other classes having more or better tools.

Recomendations both personal and found browsing other forum posts. I'm not suggesting all of them or all of the idea but some I think would help ease the woes of warriors atm.

- Peircing Howl baseline, talentable hamstring to root.
- Spell Reflect, talentable in arms to reduce cd (reduce dmg from that spell school by 10% for 3/4seconds?).
- Heroic throw augmented to have the gag order talent built in to the base ability?
- Heroic Leap CD reduced or the skirmisher talent move up2 where the piercing howl talent would of been.
- Throwdown, ranged stun?
- Charge, immunity to movment imparing effect and movement speed increase for 2seconds.
- MS effect doubled to 20%, atm its entirely pointless albeit passive for warriors when they mortalstrike, deminished effect when necrotic strike is also on the target.
- (allow Revenge in Battle Stance) when below a certain percentage of hp (50-60%) allow the use of Revenge, sucessful revenge strikes would proc an undispellable enrage and stack by an additional +5% dmg each 10% hp lost (ensuring the warrior can pop enraged regen and reliably heal) it would also give warriors some additional protection from being tunneled. Can only happen once every x seconds (maybe like the die by the sword talent).

No one knows what will happen in 4.3 yet but I'm sure at this point we're all familiar with the way warriors usually get treated and you can expect 'something' to happen but whether it will be a credible fix for their many problems or a band aid fix is 50/50.

Final thought will be that warriors did deserve their nerfs not so long ago but fact of the matter is they have been overnerfed and not compensated yet for this.
Zimuc
Auchindoun
Zimuc
85 Undead Warrior
6380
quit
Sumitro
Bronzebeard
Sumitro
85 Human Warrior
9470
!@#$ quitting!

How bad state are we?

Jump charge fixed
25% Hreduction
+ better gear scaling than others

Get a Paladin, 20% AP, get a DK, horn of the winter, add the HP buff.

Now stack necrotics, and %^-* !@#$ up with your way too high AP.

I've done 12 matches so far, already fought equally with some 2,3k(mmr) comps as 3s dps.

Waiting on my Holy Paladin to get back so we can play for real.

No matter how you see it, we're better off than in S10.
Rygem
Vek'nilash
Rygem
90 Pandaren Warrior
6590
Edited by Rygem on 09/12/11 14:39 (GMT)
03/09/2011 00:19Posted by Vrog
THEY TOOOOOK OUR JOOOOOOOOBS !!!!!!


nuff said here XD

i quit after 4.2 hit (t2h damage nerf) before that i actually saw crits higher than 20 k, now i am happy if i crit 15 k with mortal strike vs a decent geared cloth.
Pompagiu
Terokkar
Pompagiu
1 Tauren Warrior
0
Me personally, am tired of waiting.
Warrior is kite'able by every class, and cannot keep up with any class - if they try.


Ret is "kite'able" by every class since the game was released. Not saying warriors dont need some buffs but other specs / classes have it way worst. Peace !
Maximm
Draenor
Maximm
85 Tauren Warrior
3085
16.12 i am out,......waiting for diablo :)
Connérly
Nordrassil
Connérly
85 Orc Warrior
4335
i like pvp this season. dont wanna forgive or quit lol

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