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#1
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Raids/5 man HCs If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Arena and Random BGs What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. The fact paladins dont really have a choice in stats, basically stack mastery and then rest into dodge/parry. Hit rating imo is useless to have since you need to much to make a difference in raids. What makes playing your class more fun? Multi-purpose class What makes playing your class less fun? Choosing which spec to play for pvp How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) As a tank, dont really have one, more priority list, quiet easy to follow though What’s on your wish list for your class? Would it be wrong to say remove word of glory CD? What spells do you use the least? Some of the aggro skills, hand of salvation and rightous defense. Really no use after then aggro nerf/buff |
#2
12/09/2011
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Edited by Andyo on 12/09/11 17:25 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvE. If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] End game progression raiding, healing. If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] - What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Holy power feels like a chore to use as opposed to being a cool new way to look at the class. See below for more info. What makes playing your class more fun? Large crits! But really the ablity to be quite diverse in a 10 man raid in terms of "what do I heal" and "how do I heal them?" I really enjoy not being a 1 button spam class any more. What makes playing your class less fun? Beacon of Light -50% effect. Personally I'd prefer this was re introduced to 100% and the size of our heals was nerfed. There isn't anything fun about beacon feeling like it's there as a battery for Holy Power to keep good throughput. The the spell cost increase isn't that awesome since a paladin is a spamming class and also has no "burst" regen like other classes do, meaning we have to keep our mana at the 40-50% mark so we can handle intense periods / phases of fights. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Since there isn't an answer for this as a healer I can't say to much. I like the way Holy Shock is used a lot more, the way it can "fill in" between more expensive heals to help with the mana. In terms of spell priority I think it's good, however due to the lack of ablity to regain holy power, it's not that awesome choosing between Light of Dawn or Word of Glory, knowing that using one will totally block out the other. What’s on your wish list for your class? Personally I'd like to see the -50% on beacon of light removed. However more so I'd like to see Holy Power re designed so it's much more accessable and doesn't feel like so much of an effort to "ramp up". What spells do you use the least? Flash of Light - I almost never use it and sometimes wonder why it's on my bars. It is sometimes handy as an instant heal with Infusion of Light while moving, however due to it's stupid mana inefficiency, I personally find it almost redundant. Hand of Salvation - Post threat buff was implemented I have literally never used this, compared to pre threat buff when I had 2-3 raid members fighting over it :< |
#3
12/09/2011
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Edited by Diamondtear on 12/09/11 18:22 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvE If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Raids What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Using a talent point for magic dispel when it can be better used elsewhere. Having to manually activate crusader aura for a tiny benefit. What makes playing your class more fun? High survivability. What makes playing your class less fun? Healing debuff on divine plea. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Happy with it. What’s on your wish list for your class? Mastery change. Preferably to generate holy power, but at least make it work on Beacon of Light heals. What spells do you use the least? Flash of Light. |
#4
12/09/2011
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Edited by Millennía on 12/09/11 17:27 (BST)
Thanks for taking the time to listen to our feedback :)
Q. What type of content do you focus on? A. PvE Q. If PvE, what type of PvE? A. 10 Man Raiding / Heroics Q. If PvP, what type of PvP? A. N/A Q. What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? A. Bad RNG of Exo / Divine Purpose and getting no Holy Power from Crusader Strike being parried even though you can not get behind the boss at times. (Majordomo/Ragnaros) Q. What makes playing your class more fun? A. I like the good utility Paladins have and the mix of magic and physical damage in my rotation. Q. What makes playing your class less fun? A. The dependancy of procs. Sometimes I can go for a 3 minute test on a target dummy and have only 3 to 4 Exorcism Procs in that time. This combined with the RNG of Divine Purpose can have big impacts on my DPS which are often in a bad way. Q. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) A. I can sometimes go for 3 to 4 seconds without pressing anything because it is all on cooldown and I had bad proc RNG so it sometimes can feel that the abilities I need are not there when I need them. Q. What’s on your wish list for your class? A. Two things. One would be for Divine Storm to not share a cooldown with Crusader strike so it could be used as a filler of sorts when everything is on cooldown and procs are bad or some other form of filler ability to help with this problem. Secondly, I wish that Crusader Strike would still give Holy Power when it is dodged or parried because there are fights like Majordomo and Ragnaros in particular were I lose a lot of Holy Power to being parried which can directly affect my DPS. Q. What spells do you use the least? A. In my rotation I use Holy Wrath the least. |
#5
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Exclusively PvE If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Raids If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] - What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. No more rotation downtimes. What makes playing your class more fun? Being able to compete with people on the same skill/gear level, without having to worry playing an "underpowered" class. What makes playing your class less fun? Rotation downtimes. Bad RNG. Divine Purpose. Exorcism-Proccs. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Too dependent on rng (Divine Purpose, Exorcism). Without those proccs quite often forced into downtimes where you wont push a *useful*(as in dps-wise) button for 1-2 seconds. What’s on your wish list for your class? Less dependence on rng. Maybe remove holy wrath completely from ret-rotation, make exorcism more available (as in instant without procc, maybe 2times in a row with procc or smthg) or HoW baseline with a 6-8s cd, but therefore hit for less (unless under 20%) Make judgement hit a bit harder. (perhaps stronger with each stack of SoT) What spells do you use the least? Holy Wrath |
#6
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? PvE
If PvE, what type of PvE? Raids, though finding it difficult to find 25man guilds no matter how much id like to participate. What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? having an in-game power aura for full Holy Power, that would be amazing! What makes playing your class more fun? has a huge!!! variety of utility spells to aid the raid in need, unlike the DK for example. What makes playing your class less fun? Atm as a tank, there isnt alot to do besides chaining my cooldowns as effectively as possible.... since aggro is easy. How do you feel about your “rotation”? simple to understand and execute What’s on your wish list for your class? a paladin class mount and companion pet. What spells do you use the least? Hand of Salvation, seems rather useless atm... |
#7
12/09/2011
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I would consider myself as a PvE player except for the odd BG-rangering session.
Raids. 25-man heroic
Target switching and to a certain extent mobility issues. The deadzone in Long Arm of the Law is extremely annoying. Inquisition could use a bit more duration as well.
I like the versatility of my class, even as Retribution. The crits are sexy but what's also great is being able to save people with Hand of Protection and by using my Lay on Hands at the convenient spot. I enjoy it when I HoP healers and ranged DPS and they whisper me with "<3"
Lack of scaling gearwise. I feel everyone elses DPS increases more than my own even if I have good gear. The current rotation sucks the life out of playing as well for a large part as the randomness can make my performance fluctuate wildly. Not being able to use my DPS cooldowns because of the randomness of the Holy Power generation. Having strong DPS cooldowns every 2 minutes but doing badly in between the cooldowns.
Absolutely hideous jumble of random procs and buttonmashing combined with idle moments if the procs don't happen. Having Holy Wrath as a filler in a single target cycle is bad.
Sustained DPS and less reliance on cooldowns. Feeling like I'm being rewarded for playing well instead of just feeling lucky. Better scaling with gear. Just overall quality of life improvements.
Probably Turn Evil since I'm mostly a raiding retadin. Or taunts except on Bethilac. |
#8
12/09/2011
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■What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvP ■If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Arenas ■What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. I feel the retribution spec needs some more utility. -Something most people suggest is some form of snare. This is something we could use the most because sometimes, even when your ping is only slightly to high, you cant hit your target even though you're right behind him. -We also need one other defensive cooldown. When bubble is down we're basicly out of defensive cooldowns and they will focus us. ■What makes playing your class more fun? At the moment there isnt really anything fun about the ret spec, except for maby the strong offheals. Though it sucks you have to exchange those heals for pressure on the enemy team. I miss the on-use Sacred Shield and HoF out of stun days. ■What makes playing your class less fun? The fact that you get completely shut down by dispellers. ■How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) To clunky and unpredictable. ■What’s on your wish list for your class? Less burst and more sustained damage. More utility for more surviveability. ■What spells do you use the least? Divine Storm(I miss it) |
#9
12/09/2011
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Edited by Lumendal on 12/09/11 17:53 (BST)
# What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PVE # If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Raiding heroic modes. # If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] # What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Skipping this one for now, will edit later if needed. # What makes playing your class more fun? Great history in Blizzard games, people love or hate paladins, there is no middle. # What makes playing your class less fun? Same as most of end game competative Retribution paladins. Too high amount of RNGnes in our spec (dps being able to be different in gaps of like ~4000 dps on same fight in two weeks) being to weak at the moment ,that even you guys admited, and having to relly on heavy RNG luck procs in order to pull somewhat competative damage. And rotation that relies to heavely on periods of bursts, while doing insanely poor between those. # How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) I actualy like current rotation - well its more priority system, but as i and many said, it is too much RNG based, too many really important procs that change completely outcome of our damage. And it leads to that, that current ret spec doesnt reward playing it perfectly as some other specs, because even if you do everything right, you are still at mercy of RNG gods, and if they dont favor you, your damage will be really low. # What’s on your wish list for your class? That you guys actualy put some effort in Rets, which you must admit, didnt do for quite some time, and instead leaving us unfinished, actualy do the good job with us, which we deserve. It maybe sound harsh, but it is true. Fix our rotation please so it doesnt have situations where we just stand coupple sec doing nothing, empower our spells and atacks, and most important, please clean us of that awfull RNG (remember when in ICC, you could do for weeks almost exactly same DPS on HC Saurfang, and not like now on Balerok, where you can do 27 k one week, 30-31 next) # What spells do you use the least? Consecration (tho this one is really rarely used) and holy wrath. Second one, even if its usefull for add stuns on some fights nowadays (hc raggy and hc lord), have way too low damage, which im sure between other stuffs, you will buff in future too. |
#10
12/09/2011
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Since I played a protection paladin for almost 4 years I'll post here
What type of content do you focus on? PvE. If PvE, what type of PvE? Raids. What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? Not having to buy reagents was a great thing. What makes playing your class more fun? I quit my paladin cuz in my opinion, Blizzard ruined its fun with the holy power system. I really hate this change. It was supposed to be something that we should choose between heals or threat. In the end they nerfed the heals to the ground (for prot) and made threat easy. So Holy Power was 90% useless. What makes playing your class less fun? As I said above, the holy power system. How do you feel about your “rotation”? Since Cataclysm, as a protection paladin I felt like I was dpsing instead of tanking. What’s on your wish list for your class? Improve Word of Glory and decrease the mitigation (so we don't feel so OP'd). A legendary weapon would be good too. As a tank I feel like I was forgotten by Blizzard (quel'danas, the 6k ring of Dalaran, some PvP achievements are really hard to do as Protection and since holy was my PvP spec I could never get achievements like Wrecking balls). Also make protection viable in PvP. What spells do you use the least? Turn Evil. |
#11
12/09/2011
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Edited by Aladya on 12/09/11 17:46 (BST)
Holy Paladin
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] Mostly PvE.
Raids.
Rbgs
Having to waste a gcd judging every 10 sec. Having to waste 1 point for magic dispel
Having solutions for most situations. Cooldowns. Paladins seem to have a role in every encounter.
Wasting a gcd judging, Divine Plea 50%, in some cases Holy Power. Exorcism being insanely taxing on mana unless speced in making farm raids more boring.
Change judging from 10 to ~30 seconds, and I'm more then happy.
A mastery that works for all spells and beacon, Light of Dawn not tied to Holy Power. Would love to see the 3x Holy Light talent from ret proc from something done by Holy rather then it just being a way for ret/prot palas to heal up after a fight.
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#12
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Raids If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Normal and rated BG's What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Party buffs instead of the old class buff system saved the massive task of buffing the whole raid. I like the new way that was introduced in Cataclysm alot more. Otherwise I'm generally happy, however, playing as retribution, I find the whole issue with keeping inquisition up quite tedious, especially over long raid boss fights. What makes playing your class more fun? Feeling that im giving my own personal buffs to help the raid (although this is much lesser now as most classes can copy my buffs, such as BoK and Mark of the Wild). Shallow as it may sound, looking 'slick' in my gear, and the uniqueness of it. My favorite tiers were definitely 6 and 10 because they felt and looked like a proper crusader. I also enjoy the rotations of crusader strike and templars verdict. What makes playing your class less fun? The homogenisation of buffing. By this I mean the range of buffs a paladin use to be able to give was vast (perhaps a little too vast in TBC) but 4 as it was in WotLK was a comfortable amount. Now we are down to 2, and it just felt like the variations of buffs we use to be able to give was something that was really unique to paladins but has now been taken away. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) What’s on your wish list for your class? The re-introduction of available buffs we can give (more than the current 2 please!) and possibly even unique ones. What spells do you use the least? Holy wrath, only when I really have nothing else to use. Consecration. Too mana expensive and too weak. |
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12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] - Used to do both, Cataclysm changes alienated me from playing Retribution in PvE, though. If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] - Used to do everything -- Cata heroics, ZA/ZG heroics, BWD, BoT, Throne, now only ZA/ZG for weekly caps (in Prot spec because I feel ashamed by my dps there). If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] - Arenas and BGs. I don't feel I have enough to contribute to a RBG team except Freedom and Hand of Protection (maybe Hand of Sacrifice very situationally). Having said that, I struggle a lot in Arenas as well. I simply cannot issue a pressure which could make a healer panic. Even with all CDs popped, all healers between mediocre to highly skilled simply outlast them or dispel me and then I am back to Crusader Strike once every 4 secs, Judgement every 5 secs, and auto-attacks, all of which are easily healed by any healer HoTs. What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. - Retribution damage style became very Rogue-y -- I mean the 10-12 secs ramp-up to get 3 Holy Power. Also, relying on procs too much and being mostly useful by the situational tools I bring (and not the damage) alienated me from my favourite melee dps spec ever since the start of Cataclysm. What makes playing your class more fun? - More damage procs make the Retribution paladin in line with other specs I played, and thus it is then fun. - Feeling useful, because my situational tools can indeed save a wipe or win an arena match (occasionally). - Being highly mobile in PvP. I played almost all classes extensively (warlock and druid being an exception) and I never found such a mobile class like the Paladin. Just a side note: I am prepared to do less damage due to the fact that I have more tools and mobility (talking about PvP), but I still think Retribution PvP damage is simply way too low. What makes playing your class less fun? - The slow ramp-up before we start doing competitive damage. - The reliance on procs. Lucky streaks equals competitive damage, unlucky streaks equals being ashamed for being in the raid. That simple. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) - It is simple enough, based on priorities, which is perfectly acceptable and fun. There are holes in the Retribution rotation though. Happening maybe once 20-30 secs, but they are there. What’s on your wish list for your class? - More sustained damage, less proc-based damage, and if this requires nerfing some of the utilities (because you guys firmly believe that more utility means less damage, and vice versa), I will be perfectly fine with it. What spells do you use the least? - Turn Evil (like almost never). - Flash of Light (while being dps). - Righteous Defense (even as tank I use it like once a month). - Hand of Salvation (guess that's good; not being with blind dps in raid groups). - Hand of Sacrifice (very rarely in PvE anyway, very often in PvP though). - Holy Radiance (okay I do use it a lot, but I feel it's effect is negligible). |
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12/09/2011
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Edited by Eithne on 13/09/11 14:12 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on?
Both If PvE, what type of PvE? Raids If PvP, what type of PvP? Arenas and Rated BGs and world PVP every time I can fight someone(not talking about BH/WG) What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? I miss Divine Intervention, it was a raid time saver. What makes playing your class more fun? The fact that I can go to old raids to solo, I like to farm rep and going alone is nice :), I am a melee that can heal, and my class is versatile, I am really enjoying healing atm it has never been this fun. What makes playing your class less fun? Retribution is never good, Been playing since TBC and this is my favorite spec out of all classes, and I have to say in TBC it was easy to kill ppl in BG alone then it is now, yes we got tools but other classes were given double or triple of the tools we had, I miss TBC Judgement of Justice effect 30% less speed ^^ How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) I don´t Like Inquisition, Retri paladin was always about press a Button and damage appends, I feel Like every time a press Inquisition and doing something wrong (That's How I FEEL ofc I am not doing anything wrong, on the opposite inquisition must be 100% up I just don't like to have to rebuff my self, at least with TBC Seals I could make a Judgement macro since Seals were out of GCD) Protection and Holy is find they are fun to play. It may seam that I really hate inquisition but that is 100% True it is useless for Holy and Protection 99% of time. (102% of statistics are made up) What’s on your wish list for your class? Auras out of GCDs, TBC Judgment of Justice effect Light of Dawn added to Eternal Glory Seal of Blood? XD Divine Intervention? XD T2 belt and Feet + T6 Feet drop -.- been 3 years that I am farming them and noting. Now that I am farming gear for my warrior and priest it seams that they are mocking me because it drops for them :X What spells do you use the least? Seal of Justice (used it one time in a rated BG but with all the snares and CC was useless), Hand of Salvation(never needed to used it on anyone and now with tank threat buff I think I can remove it from interface),Turn evil(dont have the glyph and in pvp you have other things to worry about such has healing, time Hammer of Justice, arcane torrent, rebuke, peel, kite etc, every time i can I will give a fear or too to pets or DK lichborn but most of the times is a waist of time to do it since you have other things to do, would like for it to be instant basedline) Consecration(damage its a joke), the other skills I use them all in both PVP and PVE ofc some of them are more used in a specific spec. Summary: This expansion I have been very Happy with Holy and Protection they have never been this fun, Tier 12 looks awesome and T11 wasn't that bad, the first PVP sets looked meh but The latest is something that I look cool on :) I hate retribution how it is atm, Low damage, dislike inquisition, Rotation is too much RND but hey, when you were used to play with old Seal of Command you can't complain about it. Has and an Hybrid that can actually heal, self healing is too low compared with non healing classes aka DK, Rogue, Warrior, this three are like OH snap Low HP use cds, retri goes like this OH snap low HP must build 3 Holy Power, hey!!! You stop running and let me CS you!! Please keep in min that we may have received some tools for PVP but other classes have received double or more of what we got. PVE damage too low. Hope this was helpful, Have fun reading all comments :) |
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12/09/2011
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Edited by Lukand on 12/09/11 17:53 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
1) I did Both but atm doing mostly PVE If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] 2) Starting heroic raids 25men If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] 3) stopped doing pvp feel like a wet noodle in arena's lacking necessary utilities What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. 4) lacking a slow in pvp or a realy gap closer, a good rotation, not the 2min wonder that can dispelled or spell stolen. What makes playing your class more fun? 5) good question , better rotation less rng lesser downtime on abilities. What makes playing your class less fun? 6) To RNG, and to slow in building up dps switching is murder for Retribution also loosing HP when parried or dodged feels realy harsh. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) 7) look at 6 you never can plan your rotation right. The Rng gods can make our brake it. What’s on your wish list for your class? 8)Better rotation something that feels right lesser downtime not having to stand around watching you buttons come out of cooldown and dps is still not that great if you look at rest of the melee, but you guys already know that. What spells do you use the least? 9)holy wrath. |
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12/09/2011
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I focus on both. Heroics and Raids (Heroic Modes where possible) Random BGs, 2v2 and 3v3 Arena and Rated BGs As Retribution, long periods with no talent procs, such as Art of War and Divine Purpose. As retribution, my abilty to assist other players with either utility spells or healing whilst still being able to do a good amount of damage (When the stars align) As protection, I enjoy the rotation of alternating one Holy power generating ability with another more situational one.( For example, using a stun to lock down a caster as opposed to using an AoE such as Consecration to hold a newly spawned group of mobs) I enjoy the choices and simple but effective versatility it gives to my tank. Unreliable procs that can either not happen for a minute at a time or can flood your UI and cause you to be choked for GCDs. Distinct feeling of being weak and 'Doing no damage' when ramping up holy power to use Inquisition, only to ramp up 'again'. With no Divine Purpose procs, this process takes over 20 seconds, and is decidedly Unfun. Retribution:To reliant on procs as mentioned above, with a ramp up time that is either instant due to Divine Purpose, or over 20 seconds long without. (I use Ramp up to mean the amount of time it takes to obtain the necessary buffs/debuffs to do maximum damage) A more reliable rotation, or guaranteed chance for abilities such as Art of War to proc on a specific ability such as Crusader strike but for that effect to have a Cooldown so it could become a reliable part of our rotation. Holy Wrath, Consecration, Holy Radiance |
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12/09/2011
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Edited by Domingues on 12/09/11 18:16 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PVE If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Healing - 10m Normal Mode Raiding, Heroic 5man What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? Gearing for holy paladin is too simplistic. Secondary stats are basicaly just Haste. Crit and Mastery are generaly avoided. AOE healing is clunky. Holy Radiance doesnt fit paladin style (HOT!?), doesnt work with Beacon wich is class-defining skill. Light of Dawn is terrible in 5/10 men. Damage is terrible as holy paladin. I can't solo with it, i can't damage in PVE. Please make a spell in holy tree to make exorcism more fun/powerfull. What makes playing your class more fun? Diversity in cooldowns = Makes gameplay fun and diferent. Strategic use of beacon. Holy power as secondary resource. What makes playing your class less fun? Divine Plea Mechanic with cancelaura workaround feels clunky. Mastery bubbles are not fun. AOE healing is not fun at all (Holy Radiance is boring, Light of Dawn is lackluster). How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) All cool except infusion of light procs making flash of lights instant. Since we very rarely use flash of light (even instant), it would be awesome if the infusion of light would make it worth casting, would make "rotation" more fun. What’s on your wish list for your class? A better AOE spell. Holy radiance is great for healing meters but doesnt fit at all with paladin style. It should be a spell that transfered heals to beacon, it shouldnt be a HOT also since its not our style. Better damage for holy paladin so that i can use it for soloing and finaly try pvp. What spells do you use the least? Flash of Light. Its a pure PVP spell atm, not even with infusion of light proc its worth casting in PVE. Light of Dawn. Its nearly a pure 25men spell. The cone effect IS kinda fun, but its lackluster in power in most situations in 5/10 men. Hand of Salvation. Should be much better. Threat is a non-issue now so its useless skill now. Exorcism. Terrible damage, high mana cost. We realy need a damage spell as holy... |
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12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on?
PVE If PvE, what type of PVE? 25-player heroics What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Poor itemisation for some slots, such as the lack of a heroic Tier 12 waist item. Needing to respec situationally to be able to dispel magic (e.g. when running Tier 11 raids). What makes playing your class more fun? Versatile healing, powerful utilities, survivability. What makes playing your class less fun? Lack of non-passive ways to gain or utilise holy power. Divine Plea cripples healing. Lack of a cost-free damage mitigation cooldown (Hand of Sacrifice, but without the transferred damage). How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) It's fine. What’s on your wish list for your class? A better single-target damage mitigation cooldown. More uses for holy power. Better mastery. What spells do you use the least? Flash of Light Hand of Salvation |
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12/09/2011
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Edited by Angua on 12/09/11 18:00 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvE If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] 10 man Raids as a Tank or DPS. If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] N/A What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. None that particularly bother me. What makes playing your class more fun? Utility: primarily 'Hand of' spells, holy wrath's aoe stun. I like being able to fulfill all three roles as needed. What makes playing your class less fun? Relying on cooldowns and procs to be able to do decent damage. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) The ret rotation itself doesn't bother me. What’s on your wish list for your class? A shiny gold tier set in 4.3 would be nice, preferably with a kilt. Also I want Divine Intervention back, repairs are expensive damnit. What spells do you use the least? Hand of Salvation, it's totally redundant since the threat buff. Hand of Freedom/Cleanse/Turn Evil, mostly cause in PvE there's few places they're very useful. Retribution Aura, short of having enough paladins/shamans to cover every aura buff there's no point of using it over anything else. |
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12/09/2011
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