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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both, but most focus on PvE. Both as holy. If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Currently at 6/7HC with 2 raids per week. If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] 2k+ 3v3 RBG: casual with some friends, at 1700ish What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Divine plea reducing healing done. Seals being very bland and you almost never change them. The GCD triggered with Judgement isn't lowered with haste, as holy. Also, Judgement's mana return not scaling with gear is a very boring mechanic. What makes playing your class more fun? I can only speak for holy as my experience with the two other specs are minimal post 4.1. PvE: Being a strong healer who excells in healing tank(s) with powerful cooldowns for when the going gets tough. Having utility spells like HoP, HoSac, HoS, HoF and HoJ is fun. PvP: Popping cooldowns and top people from 10% and good survivability. What makes playing your class less fun? PvP: Very, very susceptible to CC and silences. Interrupts are fine as they can be fake-casted, but having Counterspell and Spell Lock have a "free" silence (even at costs of talents) when "failing" is insanely annoying. Especially when the silence is upwards of 50% of the original lockout. PvE: When our only raid cooldown does nothing because the damage cannot be resisted (Ignacious' fire shield AOE damage for instance) In general: having "key aspects" of the paladin class feel useless and bland; auras and seals. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) As a holy paladin I feel the on-the-spot decision making is in a good place. You have to take into account several factors: your mana, CD on divine plea, incoming damage, HPS vs HPM, Divine light vs HL, HL 100% beacon transfer vs other heals. Holy power etc. What’s on your wish list for your class? PVP: Some sort of blanket for when we get CC'd (hots, shields or some such). Maybe having HoSac undispelable. A 31 talent point worth speccing into. PvE: "Proper" raid cooldown where the damage doesn't have to be resisted. Something like Divine Guardian. Make mastery affect Beacon of Light, Holy Radiance and Light of Dawn What spells do you use the least? PvE: Turn Evil, other seals than Insight and Righteous Fury PvP: HoS, Ligh of Dawn, Inquisition |
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12/09/2011
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Edited by Fafners on 12/09/11 20:25 (BST)
1.: What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PVP, and some PVE 2.: If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Dungeons 3.: If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] All. 4.: What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Paladins not really beeing a fun class. Thats my biggest quality of life issue really. Only thing thats nice, is that as a paladin, i can try out all 3 types of specs (Damage, Healing, Tanking). But unfortunaly, only one of the specs is viable (Holy). Prot is not viable for RBGs, since of too poor mobility. Nearly all RBGs wants warriors. Even Blood DKs and Ferals Tanks are strugeling. Also, I still dont understand the WoG nerf for paladins? I just dont get it. Why did Prot get this nerf? This really sucks for pve, but also for pvp. You only needed to add a cooldown to the talent Selfless Healer, so when you speced into it, WoG got a 10 sec cd and CONSIDERING adding a 10 sec cd when Zealotry was used. But you nerf things way to much. This is something that is consistantly happening. Secondly, is not fun playing a spec, where you put all our eggs in one basket (Very cooldown reliant) and makes it, that our burst can be removed by a press of a button of 4 diffrent classes. If our burst as Ret is to high, without other classes beeing able to remove it, then lower the damage. Its simply not fun. I would be more okay with it, if we could do respectable damage outside of burst, or the cd was much lower. But... thats not the case. Also, our utility as Ret is pitiful. Hand of Sacrifice, Hand of Protection, Hand of Freedom: All dispelable and on long cooldowns. CC as a paladin is quite bad. HOJ 6 sec stun, dispelable. Repentance 6 sec cc, dispelable and breaks on damage. Both 1 minute cooldowns. To fix this, make Repentance a 8 second cc, on a 40-45 sec cd, and make it remove DOTs when applied. Seals, Aura and Glyphs.: The seal system is just a bad design. Not really worth the global cd to change em in combat. Remove the global cd on em and make em more useful. Our Aura is bad aswell, its just not usefull really. Also a global cooldown to change em, which again, really isnt worth it. Everyone is spell penetration capped so easy, so Resistance Aura is useless, and the Ret aura damage is laughable. Paladin Glyphs seems more about saveing mana and not anything actually usefull or fun. Why is that? We dont all want to be healers. 5.: What makes playing your class more fun? When im not keited to death by everyone (We have no slow). When no one CC me or remove my wings during my burst. And when some1 runs away with under 20% health, thinking they got away, and BAM!, HoW hits em hard :) 6.: What makes playing your class less fun? Decribed some of it on #4. But tbh, not really many fun or realiable spells and abilities as paladin. To sum up, a very RNG based class, that is only allowed to be as good as to how fast your opponet can press their Purge/Spell Steal/Tranq Shoot/Mass Dispell/Scattering Throw button. 7.: How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Dont really know where to begin. The paladin forums has been discussing this for ages. But to summarize, way to MUCH RNG and so many times where we have nothing to press (which means we just auto attacks). Building up 3 holy power over 12 sec, only to hit your target with a 10k Templar or needing to use it for Inquisition. To slow holy power generators, if CS misses we loose so much dps. 8.: What’s on your wish list for your class? Less RNG and dont make us so weak to dispells. Better CC (8 sec Repentance, on a 40 sec cd). And a fun ability/rotation. Fix Seals and Auras, make em usefull. 9.: What spells do you use the least? Consecration, Holy Wrath, our seals and our aura (I just stay in Truth and Crusader). |
#102
12/09/2011
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Edited by Nimrodél on 14/09/11 15:01 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvP If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] 5 man Heroics If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Arena, BGs What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. The loss of instant flash of light/ exorcism, holy power (although it works fine with Inquisition/ Zealotry, it feels not right to be "combo point" dependent), Crusader Strike/Divine Storm shearing cd. What makes playing your class more fun? Having Cleanse removing movement impairing effects Hammer of Wrath being usable while Avenging Wrath is active What makes playing your class less fun? Self healing is pitiful "Combo point" dependent How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) A bit clumsy, to whatever degree you can have a proper rotation in pvp, and not really efficient enough What’s on your wish list for your class? Take away Holy Power Crusader Strike and Divine Storm not on same cd Dispel Magic on friendly targets for all Paladins Ability to choose between instant Flash of Light and Exorcism on The Art of War procs Librams/relics visual, something like a book tied to the left arm or so As this is a wishlist: Angelic form, should make us taller and very shiny, a bit like warlocks demon form.... just the opposite! What spells do you use the least? Flash of Light/Divine Storm/Divine Light/Consecration |
#103
12/09/2011
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•What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
-PvE •If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] -Raids as a tank. •What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. -Word of Glory having a cooldown, I can understand it for retribution but there should be a talent in protection to lower or get rid of the cooldown. •What makes playing your class more fun? -Allows decent soloing of tougher mobs, which is why I prefer paladins over warriors. •What makes playing your class less fun? -Mana problems on certain fights. •How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) -Its fine, not much else to say. •What’s on your wish list for your class? -Something done about Word of Glory cooldown. -Better looking sets. Less crystals and more tier 2 and tier 8 please. -Bit more health for protection. •What spells do you use the least? Holy Wrath - Costs too much mana for so little damage. Hand of Salvation - Has little use in general. Cleanse - Since it doesnt remove magic its useless most of the time. Turn Evil - Never used. Retribution Aura - Does near to no damage. |
#104
12/09/2011
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# What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
-Both # If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] -Heroic/Raids # If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] -Bgs/Arena # What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. -The bubes ofc, but the good burst in ret and survivabilty in prot are also very good # What makes playing your class more fun? -The incredible burst at ret # What makes playing your class less fun? -Ret not being a good spec for pve, and also mages hwo steal my wings # How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) -I am ok with ret rotation at arenas but in the long run it does less DPS than prot. Prot DPS in the other hand, can be a burst dps if you are lucky with the proc of avengers shield # What’s on your wish list for your class? -To buff consecration on prot spec it is rearly used in pvp for a damage purpose, it is used for rogues and druids. More lore in cata maybe, buffing Divine Storm. # What spells do you use the least? -Ret aura, turn evil (buff unhloy) |
#105
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PVE If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] 5 man HC/Raids If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] N/A What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Less focus on RNG for procs. What makes playing your class more fun? Dynamic play, not heavily focused on RNG. What makes playing your class less fun? Boring rotations. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) See above. What’s on your wish list for your class? Make the rotation less relying on RNG, maybe add an ability to make it more variable. What spells do you use the least? Concecration. |
#106
12/09/2011
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Edited by Lironar on 12/09/11 20:12 (BST)
# What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both # If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Heroics # If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Arenas, BGs # What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. + Retribution: Feeling as though I'm constantly waiting to do something other than autoattack + Retribution: Relying on RNG and long cooldowns (such as Avenging Wrath) to actually feel like I contribute properly to a fight in both PvE and PvP. # What makes playing your class more fun? + The Holy Power system is a good idea in concept and the class is in a much better place in terms of second-to-second gameplay than in the past. # What makes playing your class less fun? + Waiting. Always waiting. + Feeling like an idiot for using Templar's Verdict when I had less than 3 Holy Power. Should've been waiting instead! # How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) + Retribution: Slow, too much waiting for HP or Procs. + Holy: Fun and more varied than before. Holy Power helps a lot in this regard. # What’s on your wish list for your class? + Retribution: More filler abilities to use between Judgement/CrusaderStrike and 3HP-Verdict that actually feel like they do something impactful damage-wise. |
#107
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
- PvE If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] - Raids If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] n/a What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. - Aura Range increased - Not needing a talent point for magic dispel What makes playing your class more fun? - The wide range of cooldowns What makes playing your class less fun? - Holy Radiance and Beacon of Light not working together with Mastery - Mastery in general - i'd love to see this stat turned into something usefull for both AoE/single target healing. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) - Fine What’s on your wish list for your class? - Lesser position based AoE healing. What spells do you use the least? - Flash of Light - Hand of Freedom - Turn Evil |
#108
12/09/2011
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All answers are from a Retribution point of view.
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] PVP If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] N/A If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] BGs only at the moment What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? Holy Power is my biggest issue. We spend too much time getting charges only to spend them on lackluster abilities. Inquisition: An unpleasant but necessary chore I feel that has to be done for my damage to feel competitive. I don't like having to waste Holy Power on it when I need it for more important things when in the heat of battle. Mana-reliant (as a Retribution Paladin) What makes playing your class more fun? The fact that we're basically self-sufficient. What makes playing your class less fun? The randomness of our damage output. Auto-swinging while waiting for abilities to come off cooldown or for something to proc. No real gap closer. How do you feel about your “rotation”? Retribution: It's clunky, unpredictable, and boring. What’s on your wish list for your class? Mana is removed for Retribution, and Holy Power is redesigned as our main resource. Less healing, no bubble, and more warrior-like. What spells do you use the least? Holy Light, Flash of Light, Divine Light, Holy Radiance, and Turn Evil. |
#109
12/09/2011
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From someone who plays a paladin as protection mainly:
■What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] Both ■If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Heroics, other. ■If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Battlegrounds ■What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Somestimes it feels like my mana pool is a bit too small as tank even while using Judgement, so it feels like I'm forced using Seal of Insight mostly. ■What makes playing your class more fun? High survivablilty and using support spells to save team mates. I also like it to be able to cast distance spells as tank. ■What makes playing your class less fun? Not having a no-target area of effect spell like Divine Storm. Hammer of the Righteous can be terrible sometimes when tab targetting someone/something not in range, or behind you. And not being able to use Shield of the Righteous without Holy Power. ■How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) I'm pretty happy about the paladin's rotation as it is now, ■What’s on your wish list for your class? - Having an area of effect no-target spell like Divine Storm. (Holy Wrath's cooldown would be too long) - Having a bit of larger mana pool as tank. - Be able to use Shield of the Righteous without Holy Power. I like this shield slam animation, and also see no harm in being able to cast it without Holy Power. ■What spells do you use the least? Hand of Salvation Overall I think the paladin is best as it is ever been since I started playing in 3.3.3. |
#110
12/09/2011
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Edited by Melanthia on 12/09/11 20:17 (BST)
Both PvE and PvP
Heroic dungeons, normal raids.
arenas and normal BGs
overall, no complaints here. the only thing that might be considered a little (very low priority), is slightly lowering the mana costs of buffs. which isn't THAT much of an issue.
the ability to survive well when you have to, and having a lot of group utility. both as prot and ret.
personally, the increased threat felt slightly overdone. I do not feel like a true tank anymore. You could aswell give me an ability that tautns everything around me for a minute. I feel a little bit like a meatshield now, just doing a dps rotation. I would be fine with threat going from current 500% to 400%
as prot: solid. even though threat became a non issue, I find it fun to have a closed rotation, being able to use CS/HotR - something else - CS/HotR - something else... and so on. as ret: a bit clunky. I basically have 2 filler attacks between the 4.5 sec cd crusader strikes, and then it's just waiting for crusader stike or some procs.
as prot: not very much. rotation is good, survivability is good, utility is good. the only thing I have a few issues with in certain situations is pulling hunter-type mobs, but I consider this a learn-to-play issue of myself, since no class should be able to do everything with the greatest ease. as ret: maybe a little buff of the talent sanctity of battle. I would not care to give up the small censure buff for it, since a better rotation is more important then a flat damage boost. the biggest issue I have with paladin at the moment in general is 1) the clunky rotation of rets and 2) the slightly below-average damage from rets out of cooldowns. the latter of which is already under being looked at in a recent hotfix, so I guess I will just wait and see how that goes.
as prot: not much. I use pretty much everything at hand. divine shield is maybe the only one, but that one isn't really made for prots anyway. as ret: consecration and divine storm. consecration is basically too much mana for too little damage, and divine storm isn't of any use for PvP. |
#111
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
-RET. Current focus on PVE. Play PVP sporadically. If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] -Primarily raids, some heroics for VP/JP when needed. If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] -Arenas and BGs, if any. What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? -Divine Intervention was a big (reliable) time saver. -Sounds like a moan but is a small QoL issue. In heroics/trash/BGs. No timer on HP degrading out of combat. Having to judge the timing of when itll degrade is irksome and not always possible, and leads to SOME instances going from pull to pull where you use a 2hp move instead of 3, as the server updates just as you press the move. -Mana cost of Consecration and Holy Wrath (and maybe Holy radience), compared to their damage (ret). -A third talent specialisation option. What makes playing your class more fun? -Versatility in role respeccing. -LoH/HoP not just helping the raid, but literally saving lives. -Big damage under cooldowns is always fun. What makes playing your class less fun? -HP generation being limited and slow in general, but especially penalising on fights where it is not always possible to attack from the back (Majordomo). -Proc reliance. Procs should give a benefit if you react quickly or correctly to them. However, currently gear choices, gear ilvl, and rotation proficiency CAN all be eclipsed by a good proc streak. Having proc and rng (exentuated by cooldown reliance) playing such a big role makes it less fun to play ret, and eclipses skill and character knowledge. -Cooldown reliiance. Big spikes of damage under cooldowns is fun (and has elements of skill in timing), but if things don't go your way under cooldowns (Parry, deaths), or you can't use your cooldowns as much as /theoretically/ possible (Encounter duration, Encounter events requiring delaying of cooldowns), then you are punished more than almost any dps class. Linking to: -Low base damage. Just doing your standard rotation without cooldowns you do next to no damage, unless you are lucky on procs. This puts too much emphasis on CDs, as stated above. Also, whereas CS, TV, Exo Procs, and HoW are all buttons you want to press out of cooldowns, Judgement, Holy Wrath and Consecration are not and feel inconsequential. -Divine shield not so Divine. There are an ever growing amount of raid abilities which Bubble doesn't work on. I'm okay with this in theory, as immuning some mechanics would trivialise certain aspects of an encounter (as prot mainly, but all specs really). However using bubble as a defensive CD when my raid is dying is pointless, and so it turns it into a button I should press when only I'm dying (aka made a mistake). I would rather some more passive mitigation like sacred shield, or a more usable spell akin to Divine protection, and not a button only worth something when I muck up. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) -Inquisition is okay to have to juggle. -Dp procs are only okay in that normal CS/DS HP generation is too slow. If normal HP generation were to speed up more reliably, DP procs should be lessened and damage balanced accordingly. -Judgement, concecration, and holy wrath feel boring in both single target and multitarget. -Maximising damage insists on coupling Avenging Wrath and Zealotry. However when doing this you have too much to press. CS is necessary, but similar damage on TV, DP procs, HoW, and Exo leads to too much to press during that 20 seconds of maximum damage. What’s on your wish list for your class? -Remove WoG cooldown and nerf selfless healer (Now you have plans to let PVE prot use WoG to selfheal iirc) -Change holy power in some way. The factors Sanctity of battle, Divine Pupose, CS, DS, (+extra hp generation???) need some tweaking so that there is a greater stream of holy power and thus damage, and less proc reliance. -Change the high peak, low base damage design to something a bit more even. Too much rng in the spec. What spells do you use the least? Hand of Salvation, Seal of Justice |
#112
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
I do both at an extremely casual level. What I say about prot is for PvE, and holy for PvP. I dont play retri because its a boring spec which I feel is not rewarding to play. If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] I do heroics, raids sometime (not FL, the old raids, simply havent put effort into FL). If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Arenas, sometimes RBG. What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. I really dont feel like there are any issues or improvements that can be done at this point. What makes playing your class more fun? Protection: Many situational buttons (Holy Shield, Divine Protection, Ardent Defender, GotAK, LoH). Feeling that I build up for something with holy power. Holy: I do not really know why I enjoy holy in pvp, I just do. Class in general: Different hands for different situations (though you just wrecked the use of one, I hope you can redesign it, talking about salvation). What makes playing your class less fun? Protection: Feeling like when I save up for an attack, I sometimes need to wait before releasing it (due to WoG having a CD) or use it on something thats completely useless (threat). Holy: That holy power feels more like something I need instead of something I build. How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Protection: I feel that one really important spell (The holy power generating one) is really important, but still at low CD, making me feel I spam it instead of adding more options. And that I need to focus a lot on threat instead of surviving in my rotation when threat isnt a problem. Holy: The rotation should had some more procs that would been slightly rewarding (I cant imagine healing spec dependant on good procs to do good healing can be fun at all, but a little bonus from procs so we can go out of our way to cast a different spell sometime would been fun) What’s on your wish list for your class? Prot: Feeling like I use my abilities to survive, not to anoy the enemy. Holy: Some way to protect our Hand of Freedom, its way to easy to counter. General: Making holy power a tank thing or making it better for the 2 other specs. What spells do you use the least? I barely use hand of salvation, useless in pvp (It cant even be used to protect freedom because it would dispell freedom), useless in pve. |
#113
12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] PvE only! If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Heroic Raids! What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? Having to judge all the time for mana, seems such a waste of a global cooldown for something that could quite easily be passive. What makes playing your class more fun? Holy Power, made Holy Paladin more interesting than the whackamole of Wrath - but it could do with more spells affecting and using it. What makes playing your class less fun? Nothing springs to mind right now. Perhaps lack of (read: none) HoT's. What’s on your wish list for your class? Divine Intervention back. It really had a great paladin feel to it to be able to save an ally. Losing it was kind of a blow, which had no real reasoning behind it. More spells intergrating with holy power, more HoT's, better AoE healing. What spells do you use the least? Flash of Light, total waste of an action bar spot. Hand of Salvation is rarely used now with Tank Threat being so easy. Light of Dawn is losing it's appeal now WoG is very good. |
#114
12/09/2011
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Edited by Sepultura on 12/09/11 20:27 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Just Pvp If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] N/A If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Arenas, Bgs and Rated BGs What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. No more reagents, great! What makes playing your class more fun? As retry, being not just a Dps but also a support to my partners, healing and Hands are very useful What makes playing your class less fun? Being a very CCable class and having no snare make things very dificult to us How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Quite simple, just wait the procs to come, even boring sometimes What’s on your wish list for your class? -More resources, i see other melee classes much more enjoyable than mine just because they have resources to play with. A snare would be nice -Less procs -Hand of freedom removing Stuns again, or something we can use to fight CCs -I hate when almost anyone removes my avenging warth -Remove completely holy power, just a bad idea -Remove Sanctity of battle, we dont use haste, we cant stack it, we need other stats -Art of war: when you get it you can heal or you can use exorcism, as it used to be What spells do you use the least? -Hand of salvation, just to give Dks something nice with Dark simulacrum -Inquisition, just for Avenging warth, in ANY other case, its better to hit/heal with holy power, maths are on my side here. -Hand of reckoning, players cant be taunted (but can be distracted!) and grounding totem doesnt get this spell -Righteous defense, again, players cant be taunted -Retribution Aura, simply useless Thats all, thanks for reading |
#115
12/09/2011
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Edited by Darkweavér on 13/09/11 13:55 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvP If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] All of those. What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. (?) What makes playing your class more fun? Massive burst damage, ability to support your teammates (I'd rather not, but it feels like it's only good thing I can do in most situations) What makes playing your class less fun? Rotation, having to wait skills CD. Being so proc based, low damage out of cooldowns (you could say that you have 20 seconds of fun in-game out of every 2 minutes) The fact that your most important damage source can be taken away from you easily, low dps and awful rotation (having to wait skills, and not having enough of em) How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Smash few buttons... wait, do the same thing again and at all times pray for proc. What’s on your wish list for your class? Overall improvements to damage (I'd like it to be more balanced than overpowered, but please keep in my that don't make ret BAD at both) Rotation improvements Proc system changed, paladin is too dependent on those. What spells do you use the least? Holy wrath (Useless, might need to use as filler, it's sad imo) Retribution Aura (Maybe not spell, but even more useless) |
#116
12/09/2011
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Edited by Gotdaclue on 12/09/11 20:22 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
pvp If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Arenas, BGs and Rated BGs. What makes playing your class more fun? Strong melee that can heal and fight for the light. What makes playing your class less fun? 1)Ret is very weak on 1v1, and it gives you a bad feeling when you get destroyed by your friends in duels, without having the right tools and the right game-abilities to think of a strategy on how to beat them. 2)Its boring to protect your allies, heal them and try to deal damage, all the same time. Retribution should be focused on the enemies only. If the player wants to support he can choose one of the two other specs. It should have less defensive/supportive skills and more offensive ones, as the spec is focused on vengeance and punishment itself. The only defensive skills should be some that would increase personal survivability(F.E. rogue's evasion). How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Waiting for cooldowns and auto-attacking is what makes the rotation boring. If the auto-attack damage was high like it used to on previous expansions, this wouldn't be that boring. Sure the autoattack is a passive damage and should be reduced, but there should be abilities that increase autoattack damage when activated, for like 10 seconds. Those hits need a boost, but in a way that they will still require skill. What’s on your wish list for your class? 1)I wish that ret will lose some team support abilities that will be replaced by self survivability and offensive skills, that will make ret more prepared about all those threats out there. 2)I wish that the retribution spec will be more melee. Currently spamming range attacks like Hammer of Wrath is pretty boring for a melee class. It should stay there as finisher since ret doesn't have any slow, but the whole sustained and burst damage should be made by melee attacks and holy strikes. Also, retribution has too high physical resistance, and less magical one. In order to balance it, some physical resistance should be taken away from ret(f.e. Hand of protection) and be given to magical resistance(like turning divine protection into a spell reflect, or something like anti-magic shell). What spells do you use the least? Seal of Justice, Holy Wrath, Lay on Hands, Retribution aura and crusader aura. |
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12/09/2011
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■What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both but mainly PvP ■If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Raids ■If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] BG's and arena ■What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. The Loss of the iconic Bubble-hearth ■What makes playing your class more fun? Being able to annihilate things when im given the chance. ■What makes playing your class less fun? Having no constantly usable CC, being very easy to CC, having no more skill demanding utilities making it nearly impossible to fight against multiple people, having so much essential skills being able to be dispelled ■How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) too much proc dependant, not enough skills to chose from, not enough holy power generation as ret to make rets signature move fun. ■What’s on your wish list for your class? More skills to use that require you to know your class (like proper warriors that can spell reflect) Any way to counter an enemies CC's thats not dispellable/spellstealable (Hand of Freedon, drains rains huge ammounts of mana and hardly helps at all (Cleanse with Acts of Sacrifice), or spending my divine shield. An actual way to reduce the gap that doesnt take time and isnt turned to useless when i get a slow effect on me (Long arm of the Law). ■What spells do you use the least? Seal of Justice Retribution Aura Consecration |
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12/09/2011
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Holy MS, Retri OS
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] PVE If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Progression raids If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] - What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. Aura's being too passive, I just slap on my resist/crusader aura and never look at it until my fellow raider point out I have been using the wrong one. The fact we have to gear to only Spirit/Haste. Would like more choice in the matter. What makes playing your class more fun? Big Crits and strong survivability What makes playing your class less fun? no non-position-restricted AOE heals and smart heals (like chain heal and wild growth). How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) No big flaws in it, I have a tool for almost every (healing) job, although like above the fact you need to stand in the right spot for good aoe heals sucks. (often you are not able to stand in said spot due to the encounter) What’s on your wish list for your class? 1. Positionable AOE heal (or something like the old Holy Light model where you heal a person close to the healed target for xx%) 2. beacon of light being 100% again 3. Better mastery What spells do you use the least? Flash of Light, Hand of Salvation and Turn Evil (could be a great CC!) |
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12/09/2011
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What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] Both If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] ZA/ZG If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] All of them What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. That paladins got no form of slow What makes playing your class more fun? The fact that i can make a huge burst What makes playing your class less fun? The fact that people with just a little brain can remove my huge burst How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Its too rngish What’s on your wish list for your class? That we get some sort of slow That people cant remove our only hope of killing them too easy What spells do you use the least? Consecration |
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12/09/2011
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