Topic (Locked) Class Feedback: Druid
Greena
Neptulon
Greena
90 Night Elf Druid
10305
Edited by Greena on 12/09/11 20:01 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvE


If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]
10 man heroic raids is what I aim at along with my guildmates, with more or less success.


If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]
I very rarely do random Battlegrounds.


What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.
I played a druid before Cataclysm but what made me reroll to it from a rogue was the removal of the permanent tree form. When I`m healing I like to see the normal version of my char and temporarily tree form makes sense. Not being able to see your character didn`t make sense and I didn`t like it at all. I hope you will stick to your decision to have tree form not permanent because while shapeshifting is already a big deal for druids, it doesn`t have to include all specs with a permanent form.


What makes playing your class more fun?
Being able to do 4 roles in a raid is what makes druid fun. While healing the mobility is what attracted me to the class along with the way the druid heals, hots in particular. When playing feral tank I like the Stampede Roar because it gives me control over where I can go, which I like more than Heroic Leap and Intervene as getting away faster because those two have more constraints.


What makes playing your class less fun?
The amount of required addons(and configurations) to track things that are needed to maximize your output, for Balance in particular.


How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
Restoration: I find the rotation quite ok, not boring at all although when Wild Growth wasn`t spammed I had to pay more attention to that too. But I have no complaints about the rotation. I feel I can't do very much when tank gets to much damage, but there are others in raid who can do that so it all works fine as long as there aren`t only restoration druids as healers, which isn`t the case.
Feral tank: I have a warrior and a DK tank which I rarely play now and from all, druid seems to be the most boring way to play as a tank. Because I use a macro for Trash and Swipe I can spam only that button and keep many NPCs on me. I like the DK model more where I have to apply, refresh and even sacrifice some of my future spells so I can control the many NPCs with Blood Boil and using the blood runes.
Feral cat dps: I start by saying I have little experience with cat DPS even tho` I played it a few times. Here I found the overabundance of combo points to be a bit silly. After I keep Rake and Rip up with the self buff which I can`t remember atm, I don`t have enough time or seems the best choice to use the points other than refreshing the Rip and keep shredding.
Balance: I don`t like dot classes and I find the default UI lacking in support for them. But I use addons and like to configure my UI to my needs which makes the Moonkin fun. Without addons to track dots and reactive spells and without moving the Balance Bar where I see fit I don`t think I would enjoy playing a Moonkin.


What’s on your wish list for your class?
Travel and Aquatic form art updated and maybe a travel form with full speed. A black panther that is in the WOW Classic cinematic would fit in and it being without race difference, just a form of an animal for all races.


What spells do you use the least?
Thorns, Hurricane
Bläckfang
Nordrassil
Bläckfang
85 Tauren Druid
8565
Edited by Bläckfang on 12/09/11 19:58 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]?
PvE content mostly

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]
Raids (10 HC)

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.

- Anything that involves target-switching. Cats have a pretty long ramp-up time and thus, work good on targets that live relatively long, but whenever we're required to switch targets things do not go as well.

- Skull bash cost. It costs 1/4 of our resources, making it a huge dps loss to use it. Other classes can spec/glyph their interrupt to make it either free (DKs and Pallies) or gain a dps bonus after interrupting (warriors). Shammies’ Wind Shear cost is relatively low and doesn’t impact their dps rotation much, while Rogue’s Kick cost 10 energy less than ours and they have higher energy regen to boot.

- Shred’s positional requirement. The major issue is the way Shred and Rip interact with each other. Currently, you are required to use the Glyph of Shred to extend the duration of Rip up to 6 seconds. It might not seem like much, but if we cannot Shred at all during a fight, we cannot extend Rip’s duration, which in turn makes our rotation tighter, as we have to refresh said glyph more often. This in turn translates into less filler moves (shred or mangle) which reduces our dps greatly.

What makes playing your class more fun?

As a druid, I love having the versabilty that I currently have. Do we need an extra tank for a few mins, but can't afford to drop a dps? No problem, let the kitty druid spec into a hybrid build and problem solved.

What makes playing your class less fun?

Being punished for playing a melee spec, with bosses were melee don’t have much uptime or with bosses where you cannot shred at all (see Glyph of Shred issue above), or encounters which favor constant target switching.

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)

The cat rotation feels fine so far. It’s considerably easier than the John Madden thing that it was back in Wrath. It hasn’t changed much either, which is probably good in my opinion. Making ferocious bite as a sort of execute feels great too! I personally would love to see Ferocious Bite play a bigger part in our rotation, like it adding some sort of DoT after bitting or giving us some sort of buff, since currently is not really worth much bitting above 25%

Another thing that would be nice is to alter our AoE rotation. Swiping endlessly is a bit boring; it would be nice if we could get a cat version of Trash that applied a DoT, and you'd have to weave between Trash and Swipe to do optimal AoE DPS.

What’s on your wish list for your class?

-A return to WotLK’s Savage Roar. I really enjoyed the fact that you could distinguish a good cat from a great cat based on the damage they did. The current Savage Roar is nice but I’d love to see a return to a harder priority system that, if done correctly, is highly rewarding and competitive.

-Have Ferocious Bite play a more important part of our rotation. Currently, it is barely a dps increase to use it above 25% health. It plays a bigger part in our rotation sub 25%, but as it is, you don’t use it as much before that.

-Make it easier for cats to switch or cleave targets, as currently it is something we're really bad at. An ability that works similar to Blade Furry would be nice to have :)

-Last thing I’d love to see is to see a smaller dependence on our weapon whenever it comes down to scaling. Everything that are not bleeds have a huge weapon damage %. This translates into us doing really bad damage until we get a good weapon, and makes us really bursty in PvP once we acquire a good weapon.

What spells do you use the least?

Stampeding Roar. The ability is nice, but with such a long cd, relatively high cost (in cat) and short range it normally doesn’t find as much use in PvE content. There’s a few fights were it is useful (for spreading out in Majordomo Staghelm for instance or Seed-kitting in Raggy HC) but other than that it is not quite as useful.

Thorns is another spell that I barely use, giving the general annoyance involved with using it (having to shift in and out of form). As a tank, it would be great if I could just apply it without shifting out of form.
Camzillian
Darkmoon Faire
Camzillian
85 Night Elf Druid
11225


What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvE mainly with a hint of PvP

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]

Normal raids/stepping into heroic content.

If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]

BGs

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.

Not being able to use tranformations items, E.G. Orbof the Sin'dorei

What makes playing your class more fun?

The amount of utility.

What makes playing your class less fun?

Tanking, i dont like it

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)

Its good, i think Starsurge could do with a more percent chance to proc, but thats just me.

What’s on your wish list for your class?

See quality of life. I'm sure many other druids could say the same.

What spells do you use the least?

Farie Fire as it gives moonkin no DPS benefit in a raid as we always have a feral so its useless.
Damsai
Stormreaver
Damsai
90 Tauren Druid
13150
Edited by Damsai on 16/09/11 23:17 (BST)
I want to urge people to upvote any post they like and have the same point of view as them, I know I did and it helps out when they start looking at all the different posts.

What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both with main focus on PvE

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]
Raids - 25HC - as Resto with Feral Tank OS

If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]
Arena and Bgs - As Resto

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues?
While I'm absolutly happy with how Resto works out overrall there are some minor issues that could do with a tweak. I've put em on my wishlist down below. I also think that Stampeding Roar is a great ability, that is greatly underused by most druids. Especially in the raid environments where stacking and spreading during different phases is a common practice.

What makes playing your class more fun?
The same reason why I chose this class: shifting, hots and SWIPE BABY!

What makes playing your class less fun?
Getting spam Purged, but i am not qualified to complain about that I think.
I also do not like that certain abilities drop you out of bear.

How do you feel about your “rotation”?
Good, I enjoy the new healing that was introduced for Cataclysm. The change to the Mastery and the way to activate it also works really well, it makes you wanna use all your abilties to get the maximum out of your troughput.

What’s on your wish list for your class?
Making Travelform usable indoors. It is annoying that you could not use it on the first Raids (BoT and BWD), but you can on the second (Firelands) while our Shaman friends can at any time. Giving it the same speed as Ghost Wolf for shamans with also the ability to use it in-doors would be a fair trade-off.

Secondly, I feel that Resto needs a %-damage reduction skill. Be it on a CD like Pain Suppresion, or a passive one like Inspiration. While progressing from Normal modes to Heroic Modes in raids, the bosses start hitting harder then before but the Druids troughput remains the same .(Don't get me wrong I'm absolutly fine with Troughput, but its the only thing we have). A %-damage reduction skill scales with that damage retaining its usefullness on all levels of healing. It would also give the Resto and his/her teammates a survivability boost besides hoping you got a pillar close by.

Lastly, I feel like we could have some abilities like Warstomp and Thorns (and maybe Detonate Shrooms) not drop you out off Bearform. These abilities are usefull midfight, longterm and on the pull respectivly and could give some more buttons to hit in at least AoE situations.

What spells do you use the least?
Hurricane, Thorns (only real benefit is on Alysrazor) and depending on the location of the fight, Travel Form. Those are actually the least used ones, I use all of my other skills on a daily basis.

EDIT: I guess the travelform and the abilities while in different forms can be put in the Quality of Life changes, but I feel they are important enough to be put in the wishlist question.
Carekitty
Stormscale
Carekitty
85 Tauren Druid
0
Edited by Carekitty on 12/09/11 19:51 (BST)
■What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] I do both, however I'm mainly pvping( I've done 2/7 hc firelands)
■If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Heroic Firelands progression(I don't have the time for guilds)
■If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Arenas, bg's if bored hardly any rated bg's
■What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? I don't honestly have quality of life issues, the druid life is what it is, never op, maybe slightly fotm but always blown out of proportion by the masses.
■What makes playing your class more fun? What makes it fun? the fact that I know that I'm doing up to 3 times more to do effective damage as opposed to other classes. I guess this is more of a subjective matter, but what's most fun to me is when I know my opponent has no defencive cooldowns, and I have everything ready to blow him up, the most rewarding thing ever is looking at the enemy who is helpless to your burst( to other readers I might add that to do the damage that I do( I do significantly more than others ) is cooldown based and is on a 3min cooldown) the most fun, and best moment of it all is the final maim, the one the healer knows he won't recover from, that feeling, that's the reason I'm still playing.
■What makes playing your class less fun? Sitting in fears, I hate fears, not the fact that it's 8sec cc, no, not the fact that it's warlocks eighter, it's just cuz it's undispellable cuz of UA and it breaks on too much damage, it's a stun in its own way, and it really makes me want to quit from time to time.
■How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) Properly rewarding, however too bleed oriented( I know that the feral druid design is to do as much damage as others do in autoattacks in bleeds, but it feels abit wierd ) I also critisize our energy pool, it's way too often empty and we are just idling almost pleading for OOC proccs, however the design fits the class and I wouldn't change it for anything else, while harder than rogues(while being less rewarding) I still much preffer the feral playstyle.
■What’s on your wish list for your class? Berserk on a shorter cooldown, make it a 1.5min cd, reduce the duration and make it break fear, this is the change that I'd likely die for, if this change went live, everything that is possible by other melee(hint warriors and dks) would be possible as a feral.
■What spells do you use the least? in pvp it's likely savage roar, in both I'd say claw, but nobody uses that also I think it's usefull to note here that the fact that you can turn your back to a wall or face it off a ledge in arena and absolutely counter shred, is rather ridiculous, I do demand a change on this matter, but if you think the game is comfotable seeing 17/20 top 20 teams consist of a warlock mage and shaman I strongly suggest you change your staff.
Mohrigan
Talnivarr
Mohrigan
90 Tauren Druid
8810
Edited by Mohrigan on 12/09/11 19:55 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? - PVE

If PvE, what type of PvE?Everything bar heroics. Basically a casual raider

If PvP, what type of PvP? n/a

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues?
Feral (cat) - Having to use talent points to have a viable (10s) interrupt and not having access to any sensible CC while feral.
Feral (Bear) - None particularly at the moment
Moonkin - Not having an interrupt, especially when it is core to several fights these days always sucks. Bizarre and annoying aoe. OUTDATED MODEL.

What makes playing your class more fun?
Having access to a little more utility in each form is always fun, as is a little bit of crossover utility such as being able to use tranquility and the like.

What makes playing your class less fun?
Having to look at the backside of a vanilla model when I'm a moonkin. As much as I love it, it looks SO dated now.
Feeling unable to assist on certain aspects of a fight as one spec when another has a mechanic that can easily deal with it.
Positioning as a cat. I have no dps if I cannot get behind it.

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
Moonkin is fun and interesting at the moment but I wouldn't mind another proc or two to keep things interesting. Balancing damage between eclipse and non eclipse states (not equal obviously) would feel a little better too.
As a cat, it feels sluggish and boring outside of berserking.

What’s on your wish list for your class?
A new model for my moonkin.
A much better hurricane. Moonkin aoe should really use it but it's just plain awful.
Competitive cat dps from parts that aren't behind

What spells do you use the least?
Hurricane, Thorns, Roots
Olive
Aszune
Olive
90 Night Elf Druid
15535
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both. Balance in raids and feral in pvp and 5-mans to tank.

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] Mainly raids, have done all 5-man content

If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] Mainly BGs, some arena

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters. I want a way to inefficiently burn mana for burst dps. I also want more dps cooldowns other than starfall, which does not feel like a dps cooldown, rather just another dot that has a very long cooldown.
I dislike my never-out-of-mana-it feels too safe. I want to run out of mana near the end of fights.

What makes playing your class more fun? Big Big Yellow Numbers. And bringing something fun and desirable to raids (which druids have less these days).
I also like the survivability of bears in pvp, however the damage of cat in pvp doesn't feel fun. Its annoying that I have to spec bear for 5-mans, but this nerfs cat in pvp and pve. I'd like more options in feral that makes me have to drop

What makes playing your class less fun? THE FLIGHT TIME OF WRATH. And not enough talent specs. Why limit it to 2?? Give us the gold-sink and allow us more alternative specs.


How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
I don't like that mastery feels useless. I don't mind speccing into haste and crit, but it feels like my rotation suffers too much when not in eclipse. I really need either a different effect from mastery, or a way of prolonging eclipse so that mastery gets me a proper benefit. At the moment whatever I do, eclipse is only up for ~50% of the time when single target nuking. In fact, with more haste, my dots actually suffer from haste so that when i leave eclipse faster, my dots loose their buff faster.

What’s on your wish list for your class?
A better buff for mastery in Balance (one which gives a flat buff would work).
A way to burn mana inefficiently to use up my otherwise over-flowing mana bar.
A super slow cast spell (6sec ish?) to make emphasis of haste when otherwise hitting a haste capped-wall.

What spells do you use the least?
Thorns. I only use it on aoe pulls to give tank the edge.
I also dislike my lack of typhoon in a rotation - its only for interrupts and pvp.
Scaleo
Stormreaver
Scaleo
90 Tauren Druid
12780
Would be great to see some actual armors on your druid while you are on forms
Heika
Dragonblight
Heika
90 Night Elf Druid
7100
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvE

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]
Raids (Hard mode)

If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]
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What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.
Shorter cooldown for tranquility

What makes playing your class more fun?
Druids are unique, restro druid are are even more so

What makes playing your class less fun?
I love my class!!!!

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
i'm restro druid, so depends on situation I'd say,

What’s on your wish list for your class?
This is the reason i'm writing this feedback
Make our Lifebloom trigger-able. So i could make it bloom before the run out time if i see that target is trying to die and my lifebloom won't bloom in time. I know that blizzards made restro druid as a healers with only healing spells, with no spells to prevent damage (at least on other targets). So we have to save tanks or dps with healing spells right?
Right, but we have only 2 spells to do it : Nature' swiftness + healing touch or swiftmend. Last 1 is not that big. So this is our loss.
Thats why make 3d instant spell (with little preparation ofc) for us.

What spells do you use the least?
I use basically all restro spells
Faelkin
Madmortem
Faelkin
85 Worgen Druid
0
What type of content do you focus on?
PvE as a moonkin

If PvE, what type of PvE?
Raids (3day a week 25man guild)

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues?
Right now I am fine. Utility and Mobility (also due to engi + worgen) is great.

What makes playing your class more fun?
not having to kick regularly, interesting multidotting, managing eclipses

What makes playing your class less fun?
not being able to be reasonable kicker (changing forms is possible, but is not what I would call convenient as my dps goes down significantly), being stuck in Solar for AoE

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
Easy to learn, "hard" to master. changes a little bit with better gear(i.e. haste/mastery), so overall I like it.

What’s on your wish list for your class?
- more ways to see my gear
- a real %-age based cooldown (not those pillow swinging treants)
- balance solar and lunar eclipse for AoE purposes:

One suggestion is to have WM and Hurricane do the ~ same damage without an eclipse to 10 targets and a talent that converts Hurricane's damage type to arcane:
AoE would then mean to use WM+Hurricane or WM + (Lunar Showered) MF if the targets would live longer. Without the talent, you would have to be in Solar so that both get boosted.(by say 60% due to mastery) With a talent that turns hurricane (always) into an arcane storm, you could choose either eclipse for improved AoE. (which then would be 30% stronger than outside of the eclipse).
This would also make the talent optional, as some might be willing to do the painful planning ahead + starfire spam, and others will prefer to bounce back and forth.

- Lunar Shower doesn't feel right as a talent right now. Would work way better as major glyph.

What spells do you use the least?
Soothe, teleport: moonglade, most resto spells
Itsuki
Krasus
Itsuki
85 Night Elf Druid
6420
Edited by Itsuki on 12/09/11 20:14 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? both
If PvE, what type of PvE? casual, Pug, hero now, bit of raids
If PvP, what type of PvP? casual, BG
What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? being "forced" to cast "those three spell that every heal has" to reach even mediocre gameplay quality.
What makes playing your class more fun? Uniqueness (what's left of it)
What makes playing your class less fun? Aren't we all playing the same class once we chose heal?
How do you feel about your “rotation”? Transposable to every other heal.
What’s on your wish list for your class? gimme real HoTs, like before the 4.0
What spells do you use the least? damage spell, feral ability, i'm playing heal y'know. That aside, now that mana is'nt a issue, i tend to neglect "cheap" spells, or "too long to cast" spells (everything longer than instant). feels a little bit more like a REAL heal druid.
Wildmax
Drak'thul
Wildmax
90 Tauren Druid
15615
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]

Both. Balance - PvE; Feral - PvP (PvE off spec: Bear-tanking, PvP off spec: Balance)

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]

Hardcore PvE (my guild has 6/7 HC on 25-man down), Right now i'm not progressing because of internet problems.

If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]

Arenas: My best is 2100 rating with Feral spec(2v2 and 3v3). I tryed restoration but it's too hard and balance is just...weak. Feral is good spec but it's again too hard, 50 abilities to use, enemies and allies to worry about....it's just not monkey job like Hardcore PvE.

Rated Battlegrounds: About 1800 rating while using balance (more or less useless in PvP or just really weak. Big owl can dot everything, but in small fights i'm not really useful. Few cyclones, few dots...zero zerg or big survival)

Normal battlegrounds: Only for achievements

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.

Shapeshifing. Instant fly form, ability to tank/meele dps/ranged dps/heal in 1 class >>> almost perfect main character and the only reason why i'm still playing this EXTREMELY hard class in most of their roles (mainly meele and ranged dps)....Healing and tanking is hard with every class in its own way.

What makes playing your class more fun?
1) Sometimes the reason my spec is so hard to be played PERFECTLY. I'm talking about mastering balance PvE dps and mastering feral PvP. (Which is at last for me extremely hard and almost impossible to actually reach it.)
2) I'm used to this character/class..."He" is old buddy of mine in WoW.
3) Feeling unique, because no other class and specs is so huge as druid. In the past we were the only ones with rebirth, innervate, thorns. We (druids) were good support class/spec and noone forced us to make big damage because we were not pure damage class...but a support class. Now we are just like the others... So actually now it's not such a fun.

What makes playing your class less fun?
I'm gonna use almost the same reasons why this class is fun
1) Druid is just too hard...with so many abilities, spells and talents it's just impossible to bind every spell on bindings (i hate clicking so damn hard).
- It's not fun not being able to use full potential of my class (mainly in PvP) because i just don't have enough fingers and hotkeys....and every patch and expansion everything is getting harder to master it....And i'm not enjoying game when i can't master it.
2) Druid isn't fun anymore because i'm tired of him. But i can't just leave all 13000 achievement points behind. It's my "duty" to "finish" this class....do every achievement in game and "win" it....Can't start all over or to just leave it be...Achievements have become too important. all the flex stuff: Mounts, pets, titles have become so important i can't leave it behind.
3) I do not feel unique anymore. We have instant flying form, we don't have unique shapeshifting mechanic due to recent nerfs of feral druid (no shapedance from roots).
So many classes have similar or same abilities.....but seriously. everyclass has now 50 abilities..it's hard to not copy and it is easy have how to balance things.....WoW is just too big for it.
4) I have achieved almost everything. I don't know about anything that would be really funny to do in world...Fishing achievements? It bores me to death, farming, grinding mounts?...Souless grinding? No that's not fun...with any class i think.

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)

It's still unique, but it's just TOO DAMN HARD TO MASTER IT! And i'm seriously pissed off with recent changes to moonkin. Whatever was unique and funny on moonfire spam in Solar eclipse is now gone....We are still shooting moonbeams, but it's not fun anymore. Too many thing to watch at the same time (hardcore pve) to top our dps and not to screw others in raid ("Hey that Power infusion is MINE disci priest! Next time cast it on me or i will hate you for the rest of my life! I want my dps be top!").
Seriously it's not fun. Moonkin 4.0. was best thing you could do....it was quite easy and powerfull....Now? Nerfed and annoying....not fun at all.

AoE with moonkin is annoying but fun as well. I think you handled well Wild Mushrooms (after buffing it's aoe) + dots (you screwed lunar shower talent after 4.1. i suppose) and sometimes typhoon and rarely hurricane.
I'm often annoyed by so hard AoE rotation (with hard single target rotation) but ....For the good of this class, it's nice we are unique at this.....though sometimes i wish i could just click on blizzard or arcane explosion and just click once a 6 seconds or keep pushing only 1 button.

to be continue..
Wildmax
Drak'thul
Wildmax
90 Tauren Druid
15615
Second part of Dead_MAX's feedback.

What’s on your wish list for your class?
I would restore the old moonfire/Insect swarm spam with Lunar Shower talent. It's annoying to get out of Eclipse because i'm doting something....and losing lots of dps and then get flamed for it.
OR what is worse....to try stay in only 1 solar ecplise for the half of the fight. This is not the way you intented how this spec should work....and i don't want to cheat on it. Keep it simple. Solar>Lunar>Solar....etc.

What spells do you use the least?


Moonkin: Entangling roots. Not really awesome for crowd control, hibernate is better and cyclone is PvP spell....I'm quite happy with Nature's Grasp. 3 charges after someone hit me. 45 seconds duration and 1 minute cooldown. I think it's good for my Feral PvP spec and Balance PvE....This is probably the only one (my spec oriented) spell i'm not using often.
Not like Hibernate, Soothe (really cool thing), Thorns (giga macroed for good PvE use) or even Remove Corruption (Owl can dispel :-) )
....Yes and Faerie Fire in PvE as owl.

Epilog:

Druid is good class. Best main character i could dream of BUT the only perfect main character and in many things too hard with too many spells and abilitis....It's not challange anymore, there are just too many things i can and should do at once.

I'm happy druid isn't easy class to master like a mage...but sometimes i wished i could think only about my mana, cooldowns, position, agro and bad things in PvE Hard mode fight like Arcane mage.
(with moonkin i gotta think and watch: how many energii i have, how close i'm to new eclipse, when dots are ending to decide if to redot before eclipse, if it's better to redot the new dots with powerfull solar/lunar eclipse dots (cuz they are empowered by it), should i use my tranquility on this boss ability, should i transform into bear and turn frenzied regenaration to survive this or it is waste of my dps when i already take less damage in moonkin form and healers don't need help to keep me alive, Should i transform into cat and help raid with stampending roar (by the way good job buffing it...it's usefull now) while loosing a lot of dps becuase i have to regenerate my energie from 0 to 30 and then use it. When should i use starfall when there is a lot of adds but i'm almost in Solar eclipse and after i'm in lunar 30 seconds are gone as the adds are so i wasted a lot of dps not being in good eclipse while adds are up. Should i be running like a mad chicken with mushrooms and dots so i can stay in one eclipse which will be more benefiting in this part of fight....

Do you get my point? I'm getting MAD and CRAZY when i have to think about this...and then about actual fight. Too many things to think of....after a while, i stop enyoing this game and just wait to kill that thing so i can flex in Orgrimmar with shiny new epics.

I love warcraft and it's lore above anythings...but this is starting to @*!#@#!# me off.
Your Dead_MAX
Lohegrin
Ravencrest
Lohegrin
85 Human Hunter
6495
Edited by Lohegrin on 12/09/11 20:09 (BST)
I raid as a feral tank druid these days and while I feel that druids do the tanking job well I feel they'd need adjustments that are not related to incoming damage. One thing being that the druid utility typically requires you to shift out of bear form (thorns, rebirth, tranq (which sucks as a bear) and innvervate, even if innervate is ridiculously weak these days) which severly limits the applications of the utility a bear tank possess, especially since multiple boss fights are done with only one tank.

I have all classes at level 85 and I have played all tanks. While druids do a good job I don't think they're as fun as they could be. Warriors are nice because they have a lot of buttons and some stuff that is really fun (like spell reflect, even if it's limited in usefulness these days).

Death Knights also have a huge amount of buttons to push in comparison.
Buttons = Fun.

Something else is that every other tank has some way to deal with casters at a range (Strangulate+Death Grip / Heroic Throw / Avenger's Shield). It's insanely annoying as a druid in 5mans sometimes. While 5mans are hardly the pinnacle of gameplay it is still really annoying.

What type of content do you focus on? PvE mostly
If PvE, what type of PvE? Heroic Raids on main, 5mans on alts
If PvP, what type of PvP? Random BGs
What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? Not being able to use utility spells in bear form.
What makes playing your class more fun? Having access to all different roles in one class (tank, ranged dps, melee dps, healer)
What makes playing your class less fun? Shapeshfiting sometimes feels like more of a restriction than it should be.
How do you feel about your “rotation”? It's fine when you don't get a million parries in a row. As a result I feel that it should be much more reasonable to get it without losing survivability. At least not to the degree that you'd do today.
What’s on your wish list for your class? The ranged silence mostly I guess. Also a Savage Defense that scales with incoming damage a la Block/Death Strike.
What spells do you use the least? As far as abilities I would be expected to use as a bear it's going to be the utility that requires me to not be in bear form that I already mentioned earlier.
Debree
Vashj
Debree
85 Tauren Druid
0
Edited by Debree on 12/09/11 20:05 (BST)
12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]


Both.

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]


Heroics, 10 man Raids and Other as well.

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]


Arenas and Rated BGs

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.


The way movement for ferals was nerfed a while ago during Cataclysm really frustrated me. I must agree maybe it was a nuisance for other classes mainly in pvp and in pve a comodity, but, I only liked playing feral since start of BC and until now mainly because of our mobility, and I don't get, like, if you think there was something bad with it that you had to change it (the root breaking when shaping out as feral) why did it take so long for you guys to change it? Ferals could still be contained in arenas mainly in high ranked games by people with a brain easy. Getting whine from people who rarely pvp and you changing that just because some people ho have no idea how to pvp tell you to, is just depressing really.

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What makes playing your class more fun?


Even after the nerf i talked about, you gave 2 abilities to ferals to maintain some of the mobility they have. So, ye, I like my class and my spec (feral) mainly because of its mobility.

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What makes playing your class less fun?


The lack of mobility we once had. I can go as far as to say you may nerf our damage a bit more but give us our mobility we once had until Cataclysm.

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)


Was better in Wrath of the Lich King, mainly because it was trickier back then to have a proper rotation as a feral and do good, now every numbskull can perform well given the gear. If a game is without challenges, then theres no real fun in playing it really, and I think most classes and specs tend to agree with me on this one. Of course keeping the classes and specs as unique as possible still.

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What’s on your wish list for your class?


Our old root breaking back for ferals. As for where boomkins and resto druids stand, I cannot reall say, since I never liked those specs myself, and I think I never will. I'm a feral kitty for life :)

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What spells do you use the least?


Hurricane mainly, but I see how that ain't really a feral ability (Yes I do use soothe, quite a lot even, in both PvE and PvP :D it rocks to soothe prot warriors or blood dks! ).
Thorki
Karazhan
Thorki
85 Tauren Druid
4845
What type of content do you focus on?
PVP

If PvP, what type of PvP?
All three of em, though rated BG's only on my hunter, for now.

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.
More customize options for feral forms, pvp ones. All these changes for transmogr. are awesome; but ferals don't benefit from it. We want a few more options to customize (collars, tusks, teeth, those things :) )

What makes playing your class more fun?
The mobility feral offers. Jumping around, dashing around the map, be everywhere.

What makes playing your class less fun?
Being controlled that easily, no druid cc breakers at all, just rootbreakers. Not being able to use vanity items (make em last through shapeshift would be awesome).

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
Odd, in pvp, savage roar barely has a place and I'm puzzled on when to use it (talented with only 1 cp? more cp?). Rest is okay.

What’s on your wish list for your class?
An area-controlling ability, such as smoke bomb, aoe slow, RoF ... Something scary that grants druids area of control (maybe a ring of vines, entangling everyone, rooting them for x sec, some hurricane-storm like spell knocking back or slowing or blocking los)

What spells do you use the least?
Soothe, Hibernate, I've got enough buttons to press as feral and I'm running out of keybinds, these two pay the price. I often forget to keep applying FFF, and savage roar is in an odd place in pvp. Cower, cower is just an annoying spell.
Manajuana
Al'Akir
Manajuana
85 Troll Druid
0
> What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both] : PvE mainly, PvP when not raiding

> If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other] : Raids and the occasional Heroic

> If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs] : Arenas 2v2 and BG's

> What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters : I still find the shapeshifting nerf to still be a tad annoying when you cant shift out of forms to remove roots etc. I feral pvp mostly and i loved when we could just shift out and get on with it. It gave us a unique feel to play as a druid but it got taken away. As resto i feel we lack that one "oh crap" heal (regrowth is ok, the overall heal i find to be less helpfull) or that one big heal we need to keep up with the rest when damage is at its most.

> What makes playing your class more fun? As Resto is the ability to move and heal, quick heals, the vast array of heals at our disposal is what i love about Resto. Also the ability to shift into many forms adds a great deal of fun with the class mechanics.

> What makes playing your class less fun? Feels like we lost our uniqueness as a hybrid class and it doesnt feel the same as it did before. Resto is ok at the moment, but the others dont feel like they used to, like a shell of what came before

> How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.) : I dont have an issue at all with my resto "rotation" its just now down to situational and when is the best time to use this or that spell.

> What’s on your wish list for your class? There is a few for my wish list, mainly on resto;
1) Nourish - I wish it was the same pre-cata, the change i accept had to come but i find it pretty useless now.
2) That "oh crap" and or the big heal - natures swiftness and healing touch is ok for the "oh crap" heal but i feel like we need that heal but with a better heal outcome and without using a cooldown to acheive it. The big heal i wish we had so that we could compete with the other healers who can use them big heals efficiently that us using one spell spam
3) Travel form indoors
4)The ability to customise tree form

> What spells do you use the least? Teleport - Moonglade, never use it now. Healing Touch when i raid, i find the overall cost and cast time to be rather poor to the overall outcome of the heal, feels like it doesnt make it worth it
Yomakkaflow
The Maelstrom
Yomakkaflow
90 Night Elf Druid
9260
Edited by Yomakkaflow on 12/09/11 20:22 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]

Heroics

If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]
All of the above

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.
Swaping forms, and being caught out of form in stuns.
(and the fact that i seem to sometimes cast my spell as the previous target. i.e. if i solarbeam after i cast a wrath on my current traget, the solar beam hits the last one i targeted.bug i presume)

What makes playing your class more fun?
Its versatile. The playstyles for all the speccs are unike.

What makes playing your class less fun?
The lack of kiting/interupt immunity as a moonkin. Once u get trained, you are in need of serious peeling.

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
As both dps spec's its easy to learn but hard to master, and thats how i feel i should be.

What’s on your wish list for your class?

A moonkin survivability buff. (and perhaps a dispellimmunity on my dots, on a cd ofc)

What spells do you use the least?
nourish and claw cat
Ándrew
Chamber of Aspects
Ándrew
90 Orc Warrior
5680
I think druids are awsome as they are but I would like to be a Human druid.
Klapi
Twisting Nether
Klapi
90 Troll Druid
11050
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]

PVE

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]

RAIDS

What makes playing your class less fun?

I play resto and the single biggest thing that I currently don't like about resto druids is that we don't have any dmg reduction CD-s castable on others.

What’s on your wish list for your class?

I'd really like if for example Barkskin would be castable on others , maybe with a slightly bigger cd or something. That could definately help.

What spells do you use the least?

I can't really say. I pretty much use all of my spells but if I had to pick it would be Nourish
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