Topic (Locked) Class Feedback: Hunter
Funkysteve
The Maelstrom
Funkysteve
85 Orc Hunter
1650
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2283549006

Good stuff, and good read. How 'bout it Blizz? Is it constructive enough?
Zylvia
Ravenholdt
Zylvia
85 Undead Hunter
3390
To make a long story short(er) http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2151656086?page=1
Subluminal
Outland
Subluminal
85 Dwarf Hunter
6475
I want my hunter to shoot rainbows instead of arrows. Is this possible to get?
Suffix
Grim Batol
Suffix
85 Worgen Druid
3740
Hmm try to check this " http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2722998125 "
Valaut
Ahn'Qiraj
Valaut
85 Human Hunter
5625
Edited by Valaut on 06/10/11 13:36 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both.

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]
Heroics and hopefully more raiding activity in the future.

If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]
Rbgs with friends, just because playing with them is fun.

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.
1. I think deterrence need to be made from scratch, against affliction warlocks/spriests having deterrence feels more like being disarmed than protected.
2. The minimun range requirement. I mean cmon, there are some bosses with such a huge hitbox that force me to go lots of yards back just to continue dpsing.In other words, huge dps loss.
3. Playing mainly as an MM in PvE I use frequently the Silencing shot ability and when I started using BM in PvP I realized that silencing shot is an ability that should be universal and not exclusive to the MM tree. It's an extra ability that will make our PvP experience slightly better.
4. Last but not least, the new pet stances don't feel good anymore, basically the defensive stance is something I never used after 4.2 came out because passive stance for pet seemed far more reasonable. And assist stance isn't ideal, to be honest, I loved the pre-4.2 defensive stance since my pet wasnt redirected to the target I am attacking.

What makes playing your class more fun?
All the cool abilities that a hunter has and the fact that there are unique taming challenges that make me feel awesome when I do them alone (like deth'tilac). And that actually making our class so hard to play actually feels rewarding when we succeed in PvP. Anyone who disagrees that a hunter can at least make a stand in PvP probably doesn't have a clue about how to play a hunter. Finally feign death=less gold spent on repairs.

What makes playing your class less fun?
As I said, the minimun range requirement ruins all the fun but also a number of other hunter abilities are completely useless like immolation trap and some others need a complete remake (like deterrence that I mentioned above). One more thing that I don't like is that BM can't compete with Survival and MM at the PvE field, although I can understand that some speccs are meant to be PvP or PvE only, it's ridiculous how low dps I do in BM compared to my main PvE specc which is MM.

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
Well the only rotation I can think of in PvP is my CC rotation which is pretty acceptable most of the time and frustrates the hell out of my melee friends most of the time.
About my PvE rotation? I absolutely love it, with the use of aspect of the fox and a small change I can still do full dps on the move. It's just some K's below my normal rotation just because I have to move and so I am forced to use aspect of the fox instead of the hawk which means losing my 2.6k AP bonus. But I'm satisfied with my PvE rotation.

What’s on your wish list for your class?
Removing the minimun range cap, give us a knockback kick to use in PvP, give us Viper sting back as I never had the chance to use it and I will ask again for a third time: Please remake Deterrence.

What spells do you use the least?
Immolation trap (stopped using it 1 lvl after learning it)
Eagle's Eye (Only on rbgs to spy on enemy camps)
Widow's Venom (Because no matter how hard a hunter tries, they can never bring down a decent healer and the thing about "Healers are not meant to die from one dps" crap isn't my point, my point is that dks/retr palas/frost mages and whatever else you can think off can put a lot more pressure on healers than a hunter, even with full nuke they ignore me most of the time in rbgs. And no I'm not talking about Holy Paladins >.>).

That's all I can think of right now. Sorry about any possible mistakes in my grammar or vocabulary, English is not my native language.
Jumeli
Blade's Edge
Jumeli
85 Worgen Hunter
6820
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
Both

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]
Heroics and Raids

If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]
Battlegrounds most of the time

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.
Minimum Range and the lack of Focus

What makes playing your class more fun?
Being able to solo stuff which otherwise would take at least 5 people, abusing traps and wing clip so much that warriors leaves a BG and creates a new toon to whine. (<3)

What makes playing your class less fun?
The gap between the specs in DPS. (Might only be me)

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
Huh? There's a rotation?

What’s on your wish list for your class?
Smarter Trap Launcher, More focus from steady/cobra shot or a talent which returns focus on crit. (Like the aimed shot glyph)

What spells do you use the least?
Immolation Trap, Counterattack, Eagle Eye, Beast Lore, Aspect of the Wild, Feed Pet, Widow Venom, Camouflage and Distracting Shot.
Rapído
Ravencrest
Rapído
90 Human Hunter
4415
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]
PvP

If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]


If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]
Bg and Arena

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.
Steady shot takes too long to shoot, the death range/mele range for hunters,BM needs some bettere Cc

What makes playing your class more fun?
That i am one of the most powerfull classes in PvP, but if i make one misktake it´s almost a gg. I have rare pets to hunt, while other classes only have mounts.

What makes playing your class less fun?
The fackt Bm gets all the cool pets... Why not give all pets a Bm abillity and let the other specks tame spirit beasts and so on.

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)
There is not much of a rotation PvP wise... You just make shure to get off your chemirashot when ever it´s not on cd. And just w8 for a Aimed proc.

What’s on your wish list for your class?
I would like the traplauncher cd to be removed, and a macro: /cast Trap Launcher /cast Freezing Trap to work. I would like steady/cobra shot to give more focus or have it´s cast time reduced. The death range to get removed. The fackt Bm gets all the cool pets... Why not give all pets a Bm abillity and let the other specks tame spirit beasts and so on. Change Camuflage so you can move and still be invisible for 3 sec, then you get a debuff so you cant move and be invisi in camuflage for 6 sec. A mele version of every abillity that deals 75% of the original dmg.

What spells do you use the least?
Immolation Trap, Aspect of the Wild, Feed Pet and Distracting Shot.
Skrylla
Ragnaros
Skrylla
90 Dwarf Hunter
11165
Edited by Skrylla on 11/10/11 22:39 (BST)
What type of content do you focus on? Both

If PvE, what type of PvE? All

If PvP, what type of PvP? Arenas,BGs.

What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.

Built in weapon chain?

What makes playing your class more fun?

Useful pets, movement.

What makes playing your class less fun?

To not be able to do arena properly or any pvp related at the same lvl of any of the other classes. Except bgs thought we seem to have a pretty easy time there.

How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)

Feels abit boring sometimes. Seems fine thought. I guess you mean in pve. Since it's situational in pvp.

What’s on your wish list for your class?

Fix our CC. "Scatter shot into trap" is so random. Sometimes it work sometimes it don't, Scatter shot seems broken. On top of that our CC compared to other classes is damn hard. Remove the minimum range or improve movement somehow? Combining aspect of the hawk & fox?

What spells do you use the least?
Immolation trap.
Distracting shot
Beargrylls
Saurfang
Beargrylls
85 Human Hunter
1710
12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]

pvp


12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]

Mostly arenas and bgs (and duels :D)



12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.

Line of sight... nuff said



12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What makes playing your class more fun?

Great kiting ability, various pets, big crits, dynamic fights, and generally killing stuff from the distance ;d



12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What makes playing your class less fun?

Losing arena matches ONLY due to the line of sight. It is really annoying when you cant finish somebody off, only because he ran behind boxes and you can do nothing about it. During long matches, my pet is often getting killed, so i have no way to remove snares (another annoying mechanic...). Then, if somebody want to counter my damage, he doesnt even have to use stuns or ccs... Just run behind a pillar and you are safe! Then you just have to turn it into a cat and mouse game and /rofl at the hunter. Please, for the god's love DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Ive lost too many matches because of this. I want to play Player vs. Player, not Player vs. Pillar.

And traps, trap launcher... even more annoying. Without Entrapment, snake, explosive and immolation trap are completely useless due to their damage that makes me feel that I am playing at 60s bracket. Trap launcher is also VERY uncomfortable without a proper macro. CCing with traps is a pain, you have to be a fortune teller to trust your freezing trap. Lets say I play a 2v2 match and I'm trying to scattertrap the healer. Sadly, his teammate is standing near him, and my trap freezed the wrong person... Or try to freeze a running player using the launcher, if you can do it, then you are my god.

Also, removal of Eyes of the Beast made the class much less fun for me.

12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)


I think it used to be more fun during Wotlk, now I have to spam Steady to fire a stronger shot. I cant really trust the focus system in pvp. Being in downtime when a healer has less than 10% hp is a bit irritating.



12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What’s on your wish list for your class?


- do something with line of sight issue on arenas. Its the main reason why cant we fight at higher ratings. Its not really fair to us, is it?
- fix trap launcher. I'd suggest making it firing a trap DIRECTLY to the target and then instantly activating them.
- increase traps' damage, its a joke atm.
- increase raptor strike's damage. It used to hit harder during Tbc...
- give us something that would help counter DoTs. Atm, we can do nothing to prevent being hurt by them.
- master's call is badly designed, you cant remove snares when your pet is dead or out of range.


12/09/2011 17:00Posted by Takralus
What spells do you use the least?

- Raptor Strike (almost no damage)
- Wing clip (getting dodged/parried too often)
- Widow venom (10% changes nothing, costs too much focus and it can be easily dispelled)
- Serpent sting (Im in MM anyways xD)
- Distracting shot (Have I ever used this ability on my character?)
- Aspect of the Wild (useless due to spellpen, and the fact that AP bonus from Hawk and mobility from Fox is much better)
Mäskisäkki
Chamber of Aspects
Mäskisäkki
85 Undead Hunter
3865
  • What type of content do you focus on? [PvE/PvP/Both]


  • Mostly PvP altough lately I've been moving towards PvE as well...

  • If PvE, what type of PvE? [Heroics/Raids/Other]


  • HC dungeons and maybe a raid in the future....a huge maybe since I don't like spending hours in one single dungeon.

  • If PvP, what type of PvP? [Arenas, BGs, Rated BGs]


  • Arenas, BGs. Did a few RBGs too but CoA is pretty much dead on that department now. Cba with pugs.

  • What are your biggest quality-of-life issues? For instance, no longer requiring ammo could be considered a quality-of-life improvement for hunters.


  • Having a free weapon chain like warriors do? Seriously why do they get it but we don't? What is our supplement for this? Arrowstorm? A proper 4 set bonus? Oh no wai...

  • What makes playing your class more fun?


  • Attacking from range while moving. Getting rewarded from playing a gimped class correctly ie. disengaging to someone and scatter trapping them and then killing an FC.

  • What makes playing your class less fun?


  • Doing that pro move from above and then failing cos your scatter caused the trap target to move an inch to the opposite direction. Running out of focus without the dreadfully boring steady/cobra shot is not very fun either. One of the main reasons I switched to BM for PvP. Dying in Deterrence doesn't make me laugh either. Oh and there's also the fun issue of a pet spawning with 1k health and getting one shotted. Great fun as BM.

  • How do you feel about your “rotation”? (Rotation is the accepted order in which abilities are used to maximum efficiency.)


  • Meh. In PvE kinda boring cos' of the steady shot spam. Not that much of an issue though since PvE tends to be boring nonetheless. In PvP it's situational but getting focus starved without spamming cobra is annoying as hell...l2p issue probably but it still ticks me off. Especially if I'm pressured by someone who is pro enough to get into my dead zone and my casts keep getting interrupted.

  • What’s on your wish list for your class?


  • - Not dying in Deterrence. It should remove dots. Bubble does that. Ice block does that. What gives?
    - Maybe a little less cast time on our focus regen shots. It takes a freaking year to cast steady shot.
    - Master's Call not having a range and not requiring the pet to charge at me. Incredibly frustrating, especially as BM. The pet is there, it's alive and feeling dandy. Should be enough.
    - Remove the wander around effect from scatter. Randomness is not a fun mechanic for CC.
    - Make silencing shot an overall class mechanic. Intimidation is a stun and kind of equilavent but...it's not. The execution of Intimidation is a million times worse. Relying on pet AI for CC is not a fun mechanic.
    - Scare Beast working like a glyphed Turn Evil. Why does it even have a cast time? Cos' ferals are underpowered? Oh wait...
    - I might consider going back to MM for PvP if the procs towards a free Aimed Shot weren't random...WHY are they random?! Seriously.
    - Do something about Camouflage. It's our 85 ability, seriously. We are visible when moving and it totally does not prevent mages from ninja jumping on us with a ranged freeze. Or any other classes with spell abilities ie. DKs and such. Given the hunter survivability especially on arenas...shouldn't Camouflage be a full stealth? Not like we can stun a player from stealth and kill him where he stands or apply bleeds that tic for thousands of dot damage.
    - My last wish: Blizzard reading Braindeadly's post.

    Now it would be easy to beg for a dead zone removal but...honestly? The point of a hunter is to kite like crazy, stay out of range. How many backpedal hunters have you seen in Tol Barad who completely destroy other players from range just because no one attacks them? Is that the kind of hunter you want to play? I sure don't. Feel free to use macros for automatic aspect switching and maybe macro Wing Clip into Disengage? Just a suggestion. I still fail at getting rid of pesky melees but I can say for 100% certainty that it's a l2p issue for me.

  • What spells do you use the least?


  • - Widow venom
    - Explosive Trap (nullifies scatter, laughable damage)
    - Distracting shot (had forgotten all about the ability lol)
    - Aspect of the Wild (hurr durr hurr derp derp derp)
    - Raptor Strike (what is the point of this ability for a ranged character?)
    Vaneras
    Vaneras
    Community
    We wanted to thank everyone for the enormous amounts of structured and helpful feedback we received from the threads we posted in each class forum. We’ve gone through every thread, every post, compiled your feedback, and it’s been under review by the developers for the past couple weeks.

    While we aren’t going to be providing any specific feedback on the threads just yet, we hope to see you at BlizzCon, as we’ll be talking about a number of impactful class changes during the various World of Warcraft panels.

    Thanks again!
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