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Cross Faction Communication: The Kali Solution
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Edited by Kaliboks on 14/10/11 23:41 (UTC)
We all know, that people want this and not. But seriously, me and lots of others wants this. On the same stage, other people don't. So what I have been thinking about, is an inbetween solution to this. My too little famous suggestion on several threads like this, so I suppose it needed its own thread.
The following suggestion has 4 steps that there shouldn't be very hard for people to figure out of: 1: Left clicking your portrait will come up with the list of usual commands. But, in addition, the list will also show a command named "Cross Faction Communication" or if any shorter name can be found of it. 2: Hovering over "Cross Faction Communication" will show two additional commands: Turn On and Turn Off. 3: Clicking on one of them should be obvious of what they do. 4: Turning "Cross Faction Communication" on makes it possible for you to understand the opposite faction. However, this only works if their "Cross Faction Communication" also is on. Else you will not be able to understand them, and they will not be able to understand you. Q/A time. Q: Wouldn't it just be used by people of the opposite faction to annoy the other faction? A: Ofcourse it will. If we take the Looking For Dungeon, then it shows, that everybody harrasses those they can and if they want to. Blizzard cannot do anything about the harrassment than punishing the players, and so do I think they should do by people abusing this to harrass people of the opposite faction too. The ignore button and report button exists too. Q: What with in battlegrounds? Wouldn't they just turn into flamefests? A: No. Only if the developers desides to allow it, but I suggest it shouldn't. Only in Wargames. But that's not up to me if this gets implented. Q: Is this a suggestion that only counts for the minority? Aswell known as Roleplayers? A: Yes. I sadly have to say so. But, this can also be used to arrange PvP events. Of course, that is not me to decide what they. Q: Will this be useable in all channels? A: No. Only in /yell, /say and /emote. Not in /whisper though. Gold sellers might take abuse from it, whereas they cant yell to enemy cities at level one without dying on the way. Q: What if a person abuses it even after having gotten reported? A: He will get his Cross Faction Communication taken from him for a week, month, year and so forth. Q: Wouldn't this just cause alot of neutral RP and end the war between Alliance and Horde players? A: No. It wouldn't. Many players enjoys RP-PvP, and "Cross Faction Communication" gives them a better opportunity to capture enemies, surrender or threat with doom or something alike. Of cause, this supports neutral RP like The Ebon Blade, Argent Crusade, Cenarion Circle and Earthern Ring RP between the two factions. Q: Does this cost anything to have? A: No. It is free. No need for it to cost anything to learn. Q: If this gets implented into the game, will people who were against have to use it in RP-PvP events due to group preasure on the matter? Wouldn't they just be called bitter if they never would turn the command on, even in captivity situations? A: That is not me to decide whatever people have in mind for this command I wish implented. But, I still hope for people to use this even though they were against it in the start, then there is always lore as if you never understood their languange. But I dearly hope that that situation will never happen across a hostige situation or captive exhange. Q: If this command ever get implented, what languanges will then be used? A: That would be Common and Orcish. Those two languanges are the most widespread languanges in the Horde and Alliance, and practically all understands it. I have chosen these two languanges, because Horde does not not have the languange Common in their languange box, so they cannot use it. And that is why I chose Orcish as a languange used in the Cross Faction Communication command. This can however, change, if Common becomes a languange for the Horde if this suggestion might suceed. That must be it. Please say if I missed anything important in my idea, or if I left out a few unanswered questions. Thumb me up or vote for sticky if you agree. <strong/> |
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Yes, please. I'd rather goad to my enemies before taking their souls!
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Rather than just on for everything I'd rather see languages implemented and offer (for money and maybe time questing or something) a chance to learn the languages of the other side. Tongues is a great idea - would love to see a deeper and more complex version of that in the game which included a level of cross faction support.
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I support this idea. Also pretty well written post, better than some I've seen.
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I like this, I like this so much that I pressed the like button and I suggest that everyone else who reads this topic does.
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Sticky requested
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Edited by Dalrien on 07/10/11 07:37 (UTC)
My general concern as always might be that this is a good suggestion, but their unwilling to implement it due to it only "really" benefiting roleplayers in the long run and few facts revolving around bad "beta" experiences.
As much as I'd like the idea, unless we get it confirmed i'm not sure it'll ever happen. ALSO, I suggest putting this in the suggestion forum...if there Is one...hold on i'm gonna look. Edit: Nope it's not there anymore. I'll cry. |
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Supporting this.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: there are MMO's out there (Rift springs to mind immediately) where players are able to communicate freely across factions short of whispers, and it causes no problems, not even in battlegrounds. |
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Agreed, would make alot more sense, as a Argent Crusade Rper myself, it would be immensly more logical for me to talk to Alliance when in Heartglen, as I apparently can talk to the Night Elves/Humans/Dwarves Npcs outside, but not the players.
And now, we'll keep our fingers crossed.. |
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I vote for this.
This and updated models for older races. |
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I'd suggest that instead of people being able to understand you if it's turned on, it should be that you can understand other people when it's turned on. That way if someone is flaming you, you can turn it off and not have to take it. Also, if someone wants no part in it then it's unfair if they're forced to listen to everyone with it turned on.
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I like the idea, but I agree more with Kelzay than just the ability to turn it on or off. Making you have to learn the language would be a great way for achievements and quests to play their role in this. Like for instance, make the quests about getting books about old Troll language or having to rescue a stranded and dying Orc in northern Kalimdor who you can't understand, but have to save in order to start understanding him. That sort of stuff.
This way you can get achievements like: 'I Speak Orcish-ish' and 'Moo-Hoo I Understand You!'. Just thought them up :P |
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Definitely supporting this idea. I prefer Kelzay's suggestion personally (it'd be much more interesting imo to have a character who speaks Darnassian, for example, but not Common), but as I play an Argent character who speaks Common, I'll take any solution I can get. :P
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I am usually against this, but this requires a sticky.
This way, it will prevent griefing, and RP/pvp will be easier. or even when asking for help for a group quest in outlands, ect. *stamp of approval* |
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Excellent idea!
Seeming this way you sort of allow to speak which chars of the opposite faction you want, reducing the amount of grievers to abuse it to almost zero. No more use of real-id, second accounts, skype, IRC chat needed to communicate (Yes blizzard, real id gets used by rpers to communicate with each other) Thing is, just make Orcish and Common the same. Thalassian, Gutterspeak (oh wait, Forsaken now) and all that should be still race restricted. |
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If they should make orcish and common the same, we need two new languages for the orcs and humans. (goblins and worgens to)
you know, so they still can speak their own tongue |
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According to the original post, if either of the sides has it turned off, there is no communication. Both have to have it on for it to work. I'm all for it. Blizzard probably can see by now that if someone wants to grief you, he will, regardless of faction barriers. Just report the griefers from the opposite faction like you would those of your faction. Also, I think having PvP flag down may be necessary. All I can see coming out of cross-faction communication during PvP is the aforementioned griefing. You'd have to prove yourself to be open to the other faction (PvP down) to talk to them. |
