World of Warcraft®

So as I've heard over and over and over again, many people like to complain about Blizzard's decision to make Garrosh warchief over Thrall. And so I got to thinking perhaps there's more to their ideas than meets the eye. So I propose this, below I would like the name of your idea for the Horde Warchief. Many of you will no doubt give suggestions like Vol'Jin, Saurfang and such.

Seeing as this is a pretty touchy subject to most Lore Hounds like myself I feel we should express our opinions. So here's your chance, just simply give your answer in the following context:

Warchief Name:

Reason why:

Gorefiend

Because The Horde needs more of their old-school evil, instead of being a sissy faction of honorable orcs. (who ever heard of honorable orcs before?)

I don't want a good orc warchief.

I don't want an evil Orc warchief.

I want a real alpha male, the biggest and the badddest, ruling with both respect & fear and takes what he wants whenever he wants, and gained power by slaying the last warchief in single combat.

He is the king in his kingdom and anyone's weakness is his invitation.

I want a real alpha male, the biggest and the badddest, ruling with both respect & fear and takes what he wants whenever he wants, and gained power by slaying the last warchief in single combat.

I hear you saying, you agree with me on Gorefiend!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xskGDAMk2o

You will show the proper respect!

Sylvanas Windrunner

She is competent, cunning and always ready to do what it takes to win. Well not really, but she is those things according to the terribly low WoW standards, most WoW leaders are 't@rds who wouldn't last a day leading a RL kingdom.

Her new motto of "keeping her shield against oblivion strong" is great because it means that she will do all she can to keep us alive and strong to protect herself for as long as possible. In a way she is a dark version of Gandhi, with the " I am not helping the man because I love him, but because I am helping myself in the end."

I think she would give us the best shot at winning the war.


EDIT: Second place goes to Garrosh for a wartime warcheif, Saurfang for a peacetime 'chief.

Vol'jin!

He has history and is honorable.
He sees Thrall and Cairne as his brothers, but is no fan of Garrosh.
Baine is too young, Cairne is too dead, Sylvanas too obsessed with revenge, the blood elf leader is too invisible.

I like Vol'jin. And he could be the final push against Garrosh.

Because The Horde needs more of their old-school evil, instead of being a sissy faction of honorable orcs. (who ever heard of honorable orcs before?)

I really hope you are a pure Alliance player! Honor is the number one characteristic of the orc nature.

29/11/2011 02:04Posted by Mildas

Honor is the number one characteristic of the orc nature

Yes it has been retconned into the WoW universe that it is, but in almost all other universes that features orcs, they certainly dont value honor greatly.

29/11/2011 02:14Posted by Joecakebaker

Yes it has been retconned into the WoW universe that it is, but in almost all other universes that features orcs, they certainly dont value honor greatly.

Yep, but we aren't in Middle-earth. And the Tolkien's mutilated elf ancestors have nothing in common with our green fanged shamans.

For Vol'jin! I hope all the Horde leaders finally stand up to Garrosh.

29/11/2011 02:23Posted by Mildas

Yep, but we aren't in Middle-earth. And the Tolkien's mutilated elf ancestors have nothing in common with our green fanged shamans.

True but my original point, was referring to orcs of other universes ;)

Okay. :)
I just really don't want an old-school evil chief.
Not that Horde races would listen to one.

Garrosh

Because he's an actual WARchief.

Warchief Name: Garrosh Hellscream

Reason why: He values strangth and honour. He will not take n fo a no, and if he wants land, he -will- take it by force. Few dare to stand up against him. He rules with an iron hand, and if there is a betrayal, he makes sure the traitor dies.

Warchief Name: Garrosh Hellscream

Reason why: He values strangth and honour. He will not take n fo a no, and if he wants land, he -will- take it by force. Few dare to stand up against him. He rules with an iron hand, and if there is a betrayal, he makes sure the traitor dies.

There's a difference between being honorable and being a fool. A true warchief is not only a warrior,but also a strategist. There is no honor if you die on your first battle, that moron already almost killed himself in twilight highlands in order to destroy 3 alliance ships.

Which is why Vol'jin should take his place as soon as possible.

But you guys can follow Garrosh if you really like him. I bet he would like some company on the realm of the dead.

The reason I like Garrosh is because he has actual flaws, which seems to be few left of in man characters in Wow. He makes mistakes, and the have consequences.

And if it should not be Garrosh, imo, it should be Varok Saurfang.

An old war veteran, whom is experienced in battle, and holds a lot of wisdom.

I doubt Vol'jin would be able to lead the Horde, due to Trolls natural hatred and traditions.

Crok Scourgebane. An undying Warchief is the way forward. He has the strength and might of a Warchief with the body and powers of a Death Knight...make him the lore wielder of Shadowmourne and BAM! you're sorted.

Sylvanas Windrunner

She is competent, cunning and always ready to do what it takes to win. Well not really, but she is those things according to the terribly low WoW standards, most WoW leaders are 't@rds who wouldn't last a day leading a RL kingdom.

Her new motto of "keeping her shield against oblivion strong" is great because it means that she will do all she can to keep us alive and strong to protect herself for as long as possible. In a way she is a dark version of Gandhi, with the " I am not helping the man because I love him, but because I am helping myself in the end."

I think she would give us the best shot at winning the war.

You gotta be kidding me. Forsaken are faction within the Horde, they're not bound by blood and common values which makes the Horde. Sylvanas would never fit Warchief title, and you just shown you have no idea what Warchief actually means. Commander yes, but Warchief definietly not. I mean it even sounds off. Since Warchief /chief/ chieftain is tribal title- is Sylvanas tribal?

Thrall was very Good Warchief, and I wished Dranosh would be instead of Garrosh on the Throne he was young, reasonable and also Mag'har. I think he would be perfect choice.
But ever since Horde is orcish I highly doubt they would accept non-orc leader. No matter how much Vol'Jin is better in tactics, and general resource management, I have a feeling he will not become warchief no matter how much he deserves this title.

Thrall was very Good Warchief, and I wished Dranosh would be instead of Garrosh on the Throne he was young, reasonable and also Mag'har. I think he would be perfect choice.
But ever since Horde is orcish I highly doubt they would accept non-orc leader. No matter how much Vol'Jin is better in tactics, and general resource management, I have a feeling he will not become warchief no matter how much he deserves this title.

I think that the orc-only warchief rule was only set up by Blizzard so we can have a dramatic moment when it gets torn down, and I am 100% certain it will.

My educated guess is that the warchief who comes after the one who comes after Garrosh will be a non-orc, perhaps even the one immediately after Garrosh but that is less likely.

Also thanks for ad hominiems, always appreciated.

Garrosh, with all his so called imperfections and flaws, is quite a fitting Warchief. Ruthless, naive, and bloodthirsty. A typical warrior for a, mostly, very warrior-like faction. The shamanistic side of the Horde is great, but spiritual leaders shouldn't (always) lead a faction, they are more fitting to be advisers. Their wisdom is usually too great, and if they lead they are all too often plain old 'perfect'. Having a naive warrior as your leader is more interesting to the story.

And Warchief, what's in a name?

Sylvanas Windrunner

She is competent, cunning and always ready to do what it takes to win. Well not really, but she is those things according to the terribly low WoW standards, most WoW leaders are 't@rds who wouldn't last a day leading a RL kingdom.

Her new motto of "keeping her shield against oblivion strong" is great because it means that she will do all she can to keep us alive and strong to protect herself for as long as possible. In a way she is a dark version of Gandhi, with the " I am not helping the man because I love him, but because I am helping myself in the end."

I think she would give us the best shot at winning the war.

You gotta be kidding me. Forsaken are faction within the Horde, they're not bound by blood and common values which makes the Horde. Sylvanas would never fit Warchief title, and you just shown you have no idea what Warchief actually means. Commander yes, but Warchief definietly not. I mean it even sounds off. Since Warchief /chief/ chieftain is tribal title- is Sylvanas tribal?

Thrall was very Good Warchief, and I wished Dranosh would be instead of Garrosh on the Throne he was young, reasonable and also Mag'har. I think he would be perfect choice.
But ever since Horde is orcish I highly doubt they would accept non-orc leader. No matter how much Vol'Jin is better in tactics, and general resource management, I have a feeling he will not become warchief no matter how much he deserves this title.

Thrall was a legendarily poor choice for Warchief, he lacked the strength to keep the Horde united long term and even more so to lead it in times of war, Thrall had suspcions about the Forsaken but chose never to act on them which caused the Wrathgate, he starved the Orcs and was leading it to ruin, he made a great advisor and spiritual leader but a terrible warchief.

Vol'Jin ? Pfft. He's a troll folks, wake up.
Trolls are not exactly known to uphold the values of the Horde, let alone be functional in a civilization.

Vol'Jin is the leader of a tribe who got nearly decimated by FREAKING MURLOCS. And you're telling me he should be the warchief ?