Updated info on the upcoming Portuguese server

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Latest info:
A lista de reinos elegíveis para transferência para Aggra (PvE) é:
Grim Batol (PvP) Misery Battlegroup
Frostmane (PvP) Misery Battlegroup
Burning Steppes (PvP) Cruelty Battlegroup
http://eu.battle.net/wow/pt/blog/3389806/Mover_Personagens_para_o_Novo_Reino_Portugu%C3%AAs_Europeu-06_12_2011#blog

- What type of realm will it be?
28/11/2011 16:27Posted by Nakatoir
will be named Aggra and will be a PvE realm

Most ppl are against this.


- Where will this realm be located physically?
It will be Blackout group so it will be Paris


- What Battlegroup will this server be integrated? As in also, will we still have to talk in english in dungeon finder and alike, since we are getting only 1server?
01/12/2011 13:13Posted by Nakatoir
To clarify though, the Portuguese realm will actually be a part of the "Blackout" Battlegroup, not Cyclone. Blackout is a full English Battlegroup, with the exception to the new Portuguese realm that will be placed there :)



- Which servers will be available for free transfers?
We still haven’t given the list of servers that will be able to transfer


- Can it be open to all realms for all Portuguese ppl instead? Many didn't had a clue that there were servers mainly Portuguese when they started.
Blue Reply in the Brazil site:
O sistema de transferência é feito de acordo de reino X para reino Y. Este processo não é feito levando em consideração a nacionalidade ou IP.
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http://eu.battle.net/wow/pt/forum/topic/3056546199#6


- Will there be a free Guild Transfer to the new server aswell?
Most likely yes, Blue says he has no info, but if I'm right like I was in Realm First Achievements Guild transfers will be available also. Just make sure your guild meets the pre-requirements for it
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3162540/New_Guild_Services_Now_Available_-_Updated_-09_11_2011#blog


- How Realm First achievements will work on this server?
01/12/2011 13:13Posted by Nakatoir
if you use the Free Character Migration or a Paid Character Transfer to move a character to the European Portuguese realm, please be aware that the character will not be eligible for any Realm First achievements until 60 days have passed. Once 60 days have passed since the character move, the character will become eligible once again for Realm First achievements. Please do note that if the character has been made from scratch on the new realm, then it will be eligible for Realm First achievements immediately.


- Will we be able to play in this server not needing to change language pack?
28/11/2011 16:27Posted by Nakatoir
You do not need to use the Portuguese language pack to be able to play on this new realm. You will only need a European active World of Warcraft licence.


- If Server gets full right away, will more servers be added? And when?
28/11/2011 16:27Posted by Nakatoir
Right now, only one PvE Portuguese realm is planned to be open. Should we decide to open additional realms (PvP or PvE) we will let you know.


http://eu.battle.net/wow/pt
Edited by Ordhor on 06/12/2011 15:34 GMT
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  • September, 27 - It was announced upcoming Brazilian Portuguese for Europe, including Retail Box and Official site.
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3002249/Brazilian_Portuguese_Version_of_World_of_Warcraft_is_Coming_to_Europe-27_09_2011#blog
  • September, 28 - Blizzard started recruiting Portuguese Speakers for the EU server.
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3002250/Blizzard_is_Recruiting_Portuguese_Speakers_-28_09_2011#blog
  • November, 2 - Brazilian site in US opened its doors (still in beta, it started pulling info from spanish sources)
    http://us.battle.net/wow/pt/blog/3830510/Bem-vindos_ao_lar-03_11_2011#blog
  • November, 8 - It was announced in both US (in their new site) and here in the sticky thread that we were getting PtBr servers in December 6
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2868766264
    http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?id=3914935
    In the press release no saying about Europe one tho
  • November, 22 - In Brazil they announced how the transfers will be done there:
    http://us.battle.net/wow/pt/blog/3986084/Migra%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Gratuita_de_Personagens_para_os_Reinos_Brasileiros-22_11_2011#blog
  • Pre-sale of the Cataclysm Manual in Portuguese for Brazil
    http://www.europanet.com.br/site/index.php?cat_id=1504&pag_id=23512
    Brazilian Publisher. Found no info of it being in a Portuguese one. Hopefully its still being translated to our Portuguese as they said it would be.

    Pre-sale Promotion of the game in Brazil
    http://us.media.blizzard.com/wow/promotion/wowptbr/index.html

    Retail Cover: http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5521/wowjogobase1.jpg
    http://us.blizzard.com/pt-br/company/events/wow-brazil.html
    Edited by Ordhor on 02/12/2011 19:46 GMT
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    Reasons behind translating names

    WoW é em um universo de fantasia onde o contexto e mensagens subliminares são extremamente importantes para o entendimento do ambiente de jogo. Dizer que não se deve adaptar nomes de lugares ou personagens e impor isso como uma regra é uma concepção totalmente equivocada.

    Para lugares, esta questão é ainda mais relevante. Para alguém que não sabe português, Belo Horizonte é o mesmo que HUGHUAHSD: Um símbolo, e um monte de letras sem sentido. Não entenderá que Belo Horizonte significa "Beautiful Horizon". É como alguém ir para o Japão e ler o nome da rua レストランストリート sem saber que aquela rua se chama "Rua dos Restaurantes". (Usei o google translator para fazer este exemplo, eu não sei japonês). Para quem não sabe japonês, ele lê aquilo sem entender o contexto para o nome da rua. Já um japonês, lê aquilo e sabe que poderá encontrar ali o melhor sushi de Tokyo.

    Não queremos que os jogadores não entendam o contexto de certos nomes. Se Hellscream agora é Grito Infernal, o motivo é porque existe um significado no nome. O jogador tem que entender o sentido por trás dos termos, caso contrário ele não estará captando toda a historia/lore do jogo. E para quem não sabe inglês, Hellscream é o mesmo que DHYANTUA: Um monte de letras sem significado que soa bonito em inglês: réu-is-crim.

    Só porque inglês e português usam o mesmo alfabeto, isso não significa que é obrigatório manter o termo original. Então tudo que tem sentido no idioma local (desde que seja coerente), será fundamentalmente traduzido.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/pt/forum/topic/3530354760#3
    Edited by Ordhor on 02/12/2011 19:47 GMT
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    Full game, including all expansions only for 55€!!!

    Info here: http://eu.battle.net/wow/pt/forum/topic/3061878376
    Edited by Ordhor on 05/12/2011 17:41 GMT
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    More Info in our new site: http://eu.battle.net/wow/pt/
    Edited by Ordhor on 02/12/2011 19:36 GMT
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    Thank you very much for the effort to put this information together, Ordhor. I can only suppose that you are portuguese and, like us, you are going to move there aswell.

    Anyway, I'd like to give special atention to this sentence:

    "Devido a imprevisibilidade do processo de migração, saiba que existe a possiblidade que os reinos sejam fechados para migrações gratuitas adicionais a qualquer momento e sem aviso prévio caso o reino de destino fique cheio ou nossas metas populacionais sejam alcançadas."

    So, to everyone who I've heard/talked to that said: "I'm going to wait to see if the server gets populated, and then I'll transfer", you better hurry. Don't wait for others or you'll probably be left out.

    On another important subject, I'd like to suggest that a decent discussion forum for the portuguese community is created (either on these forums or anywhere else), so we can all get together and set our opinions straight.
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    24/11/2011 04:53Posted by Rotterjin
    On another important subject, I'd like to suggest that a decent discussion forum for the portuguese community is created (either on these forums or anywhere else), so we can all get together and set our opinions straight.

    You'll be getting your own realm forum just like all the other realms.
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    24/11/2011 04:53Posted by Rotterjin
    Thank you very much for the effort to put this information together, Ordhor. I can only suppose that you are portuguese and, like us, you are going to move there aswell.

    As you can see, this char is not on a mainly Portuguese server, so I probably wont even be given a chance to transfer.
    Maybe in a 2nd round of transfers, but just like many portuguese i know in this realm, we prefer a european community, but would still transfer some of my alts, mainly the scattered ones in different servers besides this one

    24/11/2011 04:53Posted by Rotterjin
    So, to everyone who I've heard/talked to that said: "I'm going to wait to see if the server gets populated, and then I'll transfer", you better hurry. Don't wait for others or you'll probably be left out.
    That is just like any other Free Transfer. But ofc this one is abit different since many will be interested to transfer there
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    Holstein, I'm not asking for a realm forum, I'm suggesting the community to create "a" forum (as in- place of discussion") to discuss this issue. So, that would imply that a realm forum was created BEFORE there was a realm. Not likely to happen.

    BTW, Nocturnos will be recruiting for our late-night raidtime, 01h-04h AM, on this new realm.
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    24/11/2011 05:23Posted by Rotterjin
    So, that would imply that a realm forum was created BEFORE there was a realm. Not likely to happen.

    Blizzard work in mysterious ways.
    Blizzard have been known to open the realm forums before the servers are open. There's still time for them to do it yet. I haven't seen a new realm name anyways.
    Edited by Holstein on 24/11/2011 05:44 GMT
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    24/11/2011 05:23Posted by Rotterjin
    I'm suggesting the community to create "a" forum (as in- place of discussion") to discuss this issue.

    I could put something up for that but I'm not seeing many ppl that would use it, being unnoficial and all, and even if ppl would use it hopefully we will get a official place soon.
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    - Wowhead will be getting a PtBr language pack also :o

    We actually have a version up on our dev box, so soon! =)

    http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=196122
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    I vote to call the new server pt: Ventobravo lolol *epic*
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    Ventobravo is terrible, not only it is the name of one faction capital (and the other faction would feel victim of a bias), but it also sounds bad. Maybe it can be named after some lore character, so it doesn't need to be translated. Thou right now I couldn't care less about it's name.
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    26/11/2011 20:17Posted by Rotterjin
    Ventobravo is terrible, not only it is the name of one faction capital (and the other faction would feel victim of a bias), but it also sounds bad. Maybe it can be named after some lore character, so it doesn't need to be translated. Thou right now I couldn't care less about it's name.

    I didn't added it since I thought It wouldn't matter much for us, but the names of the brazilian servers are Goldrinn (PVE) and Nemesis (PVP)

    In that line of thought I guess our server will be named by one of the other Ancient Defenders. So something like:

    Aviana / Aessina / Tortolla

    26/11/2011 20:17Posted by Rotterjin
    Thou right now I couldn't care less about it's name.

    Same here. Getting more official info on the server itself would be nice.
    We had them saying about server in europe and in brazil at the same time, tho nothing more for us while for brazil is almost daily, having their own site and all now...
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    i vote for Tooga (the npc of the tanaris desert excourt quest), since tooga ~ tuga ...

    could be fun :P

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    As far as I remember the Russian player had free migrations from all realms, with no issues at all.. and same for the spanish community..

    For the portuguese player-base that isn't in the same time zone as most of the rest; not having to pay for the transfer would be awesome, since most of those who would transfer there would more easily fit in the guilds there, because of their professional schedule. At least this factor will be the most decisive for me. Since most of the European guilds raid from 19h-23h (server time) 18h-22h (Portugal).
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    And Nocturnos raids from 01h-04h, giving an opportunity to portuguese nightshifters and people with weird professional schedule to get a shot in a serious raiding guild xD
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    Ok everyone, this is going to be a big post here :p

    I have some information for you all that should clear up most of your questions;

    24/11/2011 04:10Posted by Ordhor
    - What type of realm will it be?

    24/11/2011 04:10Posted by Ordhor
    - What Battlegroup will this server be integrated? As in also, will we still have to talk in english in dungeon finder and alike, since we are getting only 1server?

    24/11/2011 04:10Posted by Ordhor
    - Why only free transfer for specific realms (which ones?) and not all realms for all that have their account marked as Portuguese one?

    24/11/2011 04:10Posted by Ordhor
    - Can it be open to all realms for all Portuguese ppl instead? Many didn't had a clue that there were servers mainly Portuguese when they started.


    We will be opening a Portuguese realm on the Blackout battlegroup, that will be named Aggra and will be a PvE realm. It will be open for migration and character creation on December 7. More details about this will be communicated to you at a later point.

    24/11/2011 04:10Posted by Ordhor
    - Will there be a free Guild Transfer to the new server aswell?

    We have no information to share on this topic at the moment, but will have more details communicated to you in the coming days.

    24/11/2011 04:10Posted by Ordhor
    - Will we be able to play in this server not needing to change language pack?

    You do not need to use the Portuguese language pack to be able to play on this new realm. You will only need a European active World of Warcraft licence.

    24/11/2011 04:12Posted by Ordhor
    If Server gets full right away, will more servers be added? And when?

    Right now, only one PvE Portuguese realm is planned to be open. Should we decide to open additional realms (PvP or PvE) we will let you know.

    24/11/2011 04:12Posted by Ordhor
    When will the Portuguese Site in Europe be up?

    The European site should be launched in the coming days and we will give you more information on this as soon as possible.

    24/11/2011 04:10Posted by Ordhor
    - Where will this realm be located physically?

    The Portuguese realm will be situated in one of our existing European data centres, and our operations team is always working with the major internet providers in order to ensure the best game experience possible.


    Not to worry if some of the questions have not been answered JUST yet, we are still working on getting some more information about this for you and hope that you are pleased with the answers thus far :)
    Edited by Nakatoir on 01/12/2011 13:44 GMT
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    i like this new blizzguy
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