Topic Souldrinker VS Hand of Morchok
Thargix
Laughing Skull
Thargix
90 Orc Death Knight
14795
Edited by Thargix on 27/02/12 18:18 (GMT)
Sims have proven that in higher end gear it goes like ->
H Souldrinker > H HoM > Normal souldrinker > normal HoM
Mófó
Twilight's Hammer
Mófó
85 Orc Death Knight
3790
Do you prefer 2H then as your post suggests weapon combos you aren't using? :)
Crissi
Frostmane
Crissi
86 Human Death Knight
6610
he basically has the best 2h weapon i guess if had 2 of souldrinker HC he would use them instead
Mófó
Twilight's Hammer
Mófó
85 Orc Death Knight
3790
Thargix has certainly put the time in on normal and HC DS and i just thought that the afore mentioned weapons may have arisen in his/her time. It could even just be personal choice.
Crissi
Frostmane
Crissi
86 Human Death Knight
6610
Edited by Feit on 28/02/12 11:40 (GMT)
thats true, but if you look at his other spec he has unholy which means he could just use the 2h and frost spec for some AoE fights or somthing
Thargix
Laughing Skull
Thargix
90 Orc Death Knight
14795
Edited by Thargix on 28/02/12 14:49 (GMT)
28/02/2012 11:26Posted by Mófó
Thargix has certainly put the time in on normal and HC DS and i just thought that the afore mentioned weapons may have arisen in his/her time. It could even just be personal choice.


Im mainly unholy 2h.
Souldrinker only dropped once on hc, and it went to tank :)

Only frost DW for H spine and H madness because it is a better spec for those fights, hence low prio on weps since it is my offspec.

But the order I posted before is the right one ;) Hope this clarifies things.
Mófó
Twilight's Hammer
Mófó
85 Orc Death Knight
3790
Great, thanks for the response. :)
Hárdcoré
Arathor
Hárdcoré
90 Orc Death Knight
8185
May i ask you one thing about the dual wielding part ?

I have 2 souldrinkers 403 and i swap to my frost spec for every ds raid we start ( so i can indeed dual wield spine) But you say in your post that dual wield is also better on madness?

Also, we all know that when you are dual wielding you want to have expertise at 26 so it requires ALOT of reforge.

Do you have a different set for dual wielding or you just dual wield with 0( i see you have 7 , but i have 0) expertise? and when i wield them i also have 11% hit.

Should i go get extra gear for it or just go with 0 expertise and 11% hit..

Hopeyou understand my question.
Thargix
Laughing Skull
Thargix
90 Orc Death Knight
14795
Edited by Thargix on 28/02/12 15:32 (GMT)
Dual wield frost is better than 2h in every way. It has razorice, it has more Km procs etc etc. Dual wield is just better than 2h frost , unless the ilevel gap is HUGE (384 dw weps and 410 2h wep for example).

You do want 26 expertise as frost yes. So yes, I do reforge for that for madness.
And you want to be at 8% hit, since there is no gain at all from 11%. Only white hits which does not need to be capped (is impossible too).

So yes, go for 26 expertise and 8% hit for madness.
However, for spine you don't really need the expertise because the tendons can not dodge or parry your attacks while channeling that repair spell. So you can reforge expertise for haste/mastery. (If your group is having issues with tendon dps obviously)
Hárdcoré
Arathor
Hárdcoré
90 Orc Death Knight
8185
Thanks for the info.

Is there really a big difference on heroic madness between dual wield frost and unholy 2h is it worth the 250g reforge or just stick to my lovely unholy spec.
Eignad
Kazzak
Eignad
85 Tauren Death Knight
6535
What about the 1h agility axe No'Kaled? I heard it's procc is insane.
Thargix
Laughing Skull
Thargix
90 Orc Death Knight
14795
Edited by Thargix on 28/02/12 16:34 (GMT)
Thanks for the info.

Is there really a big difference on heroic madness between dual wield frost and unholy 2h is it worth the 250g reforge or just stick to my lovely unholy spec.


On heroic, yes. On normal? No.
Frost gets far more spellweave procs and has higher burst aoe than unholy. Mainly during the bloods in p2 that spawn. (where frost slows them with chillblains instantly too)

And regarding No'kaled. The proc does not outweigh the loss of str
Hárdcoré
Arathor
Hárdcoré
90 Orc Death Knight
8185
Thanks for the info.

Is there really a big difference on heroic madness between dual wield frost and unholy 2h is it worth the 250g reforge or just stick to my lovely unholy spec.


On heroic, yes. On normal? No.
Frost gets far more spellweave procs and has higher burst aoe than unholy. Mainly during the bloods in p2 that spawn. (where frost slows them with chillblains instantly too)

And regarding No'kaled. The proc does not outweigh the loss of str

Thankyou for the answers.
Koekb
Dragonblight
Koekb
90 Night Elf Warrior
8245
It's a tank wep , accept it
Zarkhanos
Bronze Dragonflight
Zarkhanos
90 Human Death Knight
11375
27/02/2012 18:17Posted by Thargix
H Souldrinker > H HoM > Normal souldrinker > normal HoM


You didn't mention anything about the LFR version of souldrinker, does it out dps the normal HoM or should I dual wield N HoM?
Thargix
Laughing Skull
Thargix
90 Orc Death Knight
14795
hc souldrinker>hc HoM>souldrinker>HoM>LFR souldrinker>nokaled hc>nokaled normal

HoM=Hand of Morchok

http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t125291-frost_dps_winter_discontent_4_3_a/p12/#post2055946
Sistinas
Earthen Ring
Sistinas
85 Draenei Death Knight
9840
29/02/2012 01:12Posted by Koekb
It's a tank wep , accept it


My warrior tank has the normal version.

I have x2 LFR versions.

It's for both tank and dps. Every single shield tank who thinks it's for them only points out the proc's heals, and completely overlooks the proc's damage. Derp.

Sounds like you need to accept that all loot doesn't default to you.

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