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What do you think, are they still useful in PvP?

I hit like a truck even without wings, so yea very viable also offheals are still great.

Would still rather get rid of 10 sec cd on WoG. Sucks massively.

07/12/2011 08:19Posted by Ime

I hit like a truck even without wings, so yea very viable also offheals are still great.

If ret palas hit like trucks, then mages, rogues, ferals, DKs, etc. hit like atom bombs.

08/12/2011 08:55Posted by Moofdiver

Would still rather get rid of 10 sec cd on WoG. Sucks massively.

10 secs is good enough , doesn't have to be spammable again when proccy proc. Else we get nerfed even harder on dmg.

lot of people alrdy say our selfhealing is OP lol xD it's not -_- its offhealing , but meeeh :p

love my 100k WoG's and wanna keep em in cataclysm :D

I know this is pretty obvious, but I'll post it anyway...

It seems we are suffering in Arena with pug teams made from trade chat - i suffered a feral druid that was severely undergeared (mainly PvE gear) and spent pretty much the entire first few wins blasting away and using WoG whenever it came up as well as my other support capabilities. It was pretty good as I was getting pummelled rather than him at first. However moving up the rating quickly to 6 wins - we seemed to hit the 'invisible wall' as I call it. Basically teams had cottoned on to the fact he was undergeared and as soon as they went on him and cc'd me i was unable to use all my support as well as put enough pressure on the other team to turn the game around.

In the end I just gave up giving him all my support to the undergeared feral, and tried to solo as much as possible. for instance I have never seen a feral really struggle against a ret before, until last night...

I know using this as an indication rets may struggle is futile as I will obviously roll with better geared players in future. However for undergeared players (newly dinged etc) and players playing with other undergeared players I can understand, whereas before we had awesome burst to fall back on, this time if we have a poor partner we need to support and use all our holy power to keep them up long enough until the opposition have run out of CDs

My point is maybe we suffer from gear issues with partners and rely on our partners being able to 'play properly' and have decent gear like we didnt really rely on last season, either that or feral/ret is not a good combo (never tried it before).

I was hoping to try 2s out this season and wont give up just yet, but perhaps we will be consigned to 3s, I plan on going Warrior or DK/Ret/Holydin for freedoms etc.

I just dinged. Bought some crafted gear few honor itemz and im hitting 20k with TV. Offheals are great. Imo good ret is still very deadly