I think this would help but in a very restricted numbers so that ppl will think about what exactly they are going to put ppl on that list for. I'm thinking about harrassment that can also be called stalking irl which is something other than getting cursed at by a random in an LFD pug.
I f/i would put my ex on it cause he's been harrassing and intimidating me in game over irl stuff, he's a good candidate for such a list.
I would also put the person on that list that has been harrassing me cause i just happen to have been an officer in a guild that he got kicked out for his behavior and i simply got the heat to take for it over a year long from different chars of friends of his.
I wouldn't put anyone on that list that had been cursing and swearing at me and the rest of the group yesterday during an LFD pug.
Someone in this thread also said something about that "we" need feedback about the tickets from the GMs in a more detailed way about how the offender was dealt with.
I don't need such feedback, in some cases i reported i have gotten the info from the players themselves via some friends or other means that he/she had been banned. In 1 case the banned one posted on a forum about it, for what and how long, that was my ticket. In another case someone who simply started to express his/her annoyance on trade chat and with that told me my ticket had been useful.
People simply need to trust GMs more, they carry out what is stated in the rules and they will do nothing less than that cause if they do you simply report again and it will get dealt with anywayz. Tickets are in most cases the only means a GM can react upon and so he's depending on us players, he needs our information passed on to him.
And yes, since the patch they seem to be very much more busy than before, you just have to be patient cause they will pick up your ticket.
Edited by Miltank on 15/12/11 15:00 (GMT)
I'm jumping in here to underline the fact that we take harassment and the use of bad language very seriously. Anyone who witnesses or is the victim of verbal abuse while playing is advised to open a ticket, providing as many details of the incident as possible including names, places, and times.
What's the punishment then if we report this.. a pat on the head an plz dont do it again or will you actually ban them cause then it will be worth my time to actually do it.
But seeying how you handled the LFR exploit, it's prolly gonna be a pat on the head and plz dont do it again. You can play again after 8 day's.. :p (yes still annoyed they only got a 8 day ban)
After reading this thread (which is getting rather long now i must say), I have since started using a macro at the start of every Bg and Dg i join, which simply says:
"Greetings all. Just a note to say that any anti-social behaviour will not be tolerated. This is a game that we all play to have fun, which both bickering and bullying prevent. Plz help me and others have fun, by being polite and helpful to others. Thx"
I for one am sick to the back teeth of people thinking it's ok to basically bully others in game just because they do something wrong, or because they think their better than everyone else etc etc.
The general namecalling and 'Noob' this and 'Idiot' that is getting ridiculous, so much so that it's actually getting near impossible to play in a fun environment anymore. I mean is it really that hard to be nice to others? Heck, i've had someone come into a new BG, raid mark himself and say 'if your not marked, your a complete noob and therefore should go die, LOLOLOLOLOL' ...
It's about time people learned that being downright disgusting to others is wrong and that we're not going to just sit back and take it anymore.
The macro I've used above has had mixed responses. I get some people go 'omg, hell yes!', who clearly like me are tired of it all...
I had some guy today say 'what... your trolling right? if your that thin-skinned you should go play hello kitty world of adventure instead', which obviously comes from one of the people who find it great fun to terrorize others.
Now, I myself am nearly 22yrs old, and I believe that as a player i have the right to be able to play without being bullied by anyone.
I understand that if we report people, Blizz GM's will very likely go and ban them or whatever. However, I think that we need certain tools to prevent harassment etc. things like voting to kick in a BG is a no-brainer, things like /ignore blocking an actual person's account, and making it easier to do so against people from other realms too (like right clicking on them etc).
The macro itself is not intended as threatening, and i do not believe myself to be on a 'high horse', it is simply there to make ppl aware of the fact that i wont just lie down and take abuse from anyone anymore.
I'm sure there's loads of other ways to stop all this hatred spreading, so please everyone, stand up and be counted, show your support against anti-social behavior!
Thanks for reading
See, thing is, i'll happily admit that i swear. its not the actual words that bother me, its the attitude and hatred aimed at players that bothers me most. A lot of people play wow to get away from the troubles of real life. I myself am one of those. I've been bullied all my life by people who have nothing better to do. I don't generally go out much these days (tbf, not alot to do anyway), and play WoW as a way to escape. So when i then find im the target of it on here as well... its just... urgh...
but thanks for the vote of confidence. i shall indeed continue to hit the macro every time. If people dont like it, then your more than welcome to voice your own opinions and put me on /ignore. heck, i've since actually found out that i can ignore people on different realms, and as thus my ignore list will undoubtedly grow.
For those that would like to Ignore people from other realms, because they've been a total douche, go on ignore as usual, and make sure to add -[RealmName] (obviously replace the '[RealmName]' with the player's realm)
Also, i've installed the IgnoreMore addon, which allows you to ignore more than the base 50 ppl, and also copies this over to every character you own. this is something i'd like to see incorporated into the actual base game
Edited by Rhaul on 15/12/11 18:58 (GMT)
Sadly it will never go away, too many are online. :( Earlier today i had a run in with a similar thing, i was in Warsong Gulch, now usually i never cap or take the flag,but this once i thought i'd go for it, the whole team were in the middle (barring a few) and i capped 2/3 flags, before this a guy comes along and says he wants the flag, even though i'm a hunter and i can run faster with my Asp of Cheetah, i already have it on me, so i think 'hey ok fair enough i caught one, let him have a go', i tried to drop it but it wouldn't let me (glitch or something :S)..and i saw a gang of allys coming, so i thought it was wasting time, i told him i'm sorry and went for it, he started to call me all sorts, one being 'you retard, d i c k head etc etc' i capped it and we won in under 6 mins ,giving every one the achiev too,but i still got called a d i c k by him and another player. One thing i know is that i'm not a d i c k head, far from it ,i wouldn't dream of talking to anyone like that in any circumstance, it just bugs me how people can talk to others the way they do,but everyone knows its because they are hiding behind a PC or MAC.
Anyway you need much hugs my friend :3 *hugs you*
aye, in an ideal world that would be problem solved...
but this isnt an ideal world. sometimes friends arent online, and to do things like dg's or BG's you have no choice but to pug some... heck unless you have a massive guild or ridiculous number of mates, to do BG's you have no choice but to pug.
but then again, why should we have to put up with these people in the first place? why should we be forced into not using certain features of a game in the fear of being flamed for minor mistakes? why should we not feel hurt by disgraceful behavior? Why should we be made to feel inadequate in any way, or take blows to our self confidence every time we want to play a bloody game!
I don't think some people realise just how their frankly quite spiteful words affect others at times.
Tbh, the people who are arguing back are likely the ones who generally cause the grief in the first place...
Yeah i agree with you fully there, it does put me off a lot of things like doing raids and going in Dungeons, i mostly solo things instead, which is a shame because we pay money to play and have fun,and the way the community is going in lack of social skills is ruining this :( Who knows i might try raiding one day,but for now i like to play safe, i usually put anyone who acts nasty on my ignore list,which helps weed out 'some' of the fun spoilers :)
As for how words effect others i couldn't agree more, it does effect you, to me it upsets me what with being a big softy, and has in the past effected how i play. :(
What would happen if EVERYONE started telling the mouthy and rude people to shut up... seriously, you're in a group, someone starts deciding to be abusive, and the whole rest of the group tells them they're not having that. If you wouldn't stand for that kind of behavior in real life, don't stand for it in the game. People will learn if they get kicked everytime they say something offensive.
PuGs are one of my favourite parts of the game, so I hate it that they can be spoiled by selfish players, as I know how good they can be. So yes, players of WoW, it's about time they stopped getting away with it.
It depends on who's being the mouthy one. If it's a tank, most people will either stay quiet or gang up with the tank. Some people will just side with the one being a jerk because they are cowardly. I've seen this happen in game outside of LFR too where people will be nice to you one minute then as soon as someone has a go for no reason, will gang up with them.