Topic What makes you love a tank?
I found a few threads in here that asked "What tank do you like", and the common answer was "non-retarded". However, it gave me a question:
What are the little things that tanks (can) do that makes you want to just keep on playing with him/her?
I'm not looking at the basic simple stuff like "pop shield wall at heavy damage" or "is specced Prot" or such, but the small things like using stuns properly. And not only from a Warrior tank, but any of the 4 tanks. What are things that stick out to you as a sign of a good tank?
I like a tank that remembers there's a healer behind him or her. From looking at the gear and judging what pull size is possible and if cc is needed or not, to keeping track of healer mana, to using cc/stuns whenever possible.
When I'm doing a 5 man on this character, I'd like tanks to just rush in and pick everything up, and just keep aggro off the dps. No worries, you won't die. But when I'm on my 353 priest alt, just doing my first end time heroics, I'd like a CC on those dragonkin packs please tyvm. And don't rush the next pack while I'm drinking my mana back.
Edited by Star on 16/12/11 02:00 (GMT)
Personally I think the best a tank can do is realize that they are part of a team. Their actions have influence on others and other's action have influence on the tank. And everyone's actions has an influence on the healer. If the group is low on health it's really appreciated if the tank can use cd so that I know the tank will be save while I take care of the group.
Using cd's IS important but so is timing. The amount of times a tank has died without having using a single cd are countless and they did not always die to "heavy damage" (on that note: when was the last 5-men boss that had an actual ability that required the tank to use it's cd at x time?) And all things considered that's not so bad. But it get's really annoying when they die without having used a cd and then tell me I should've healed them.
But what I love is a tank that will admit s/he made a mistake. A tank that uses his/her cd's and calls me by my name.
And then you can run around with gear that's unenchanted for all I care.
It's not about skills, it's about attitude =]
And if your attitude is good I will love you.
Planning defensive cooldown use ahead, and making sure to actually use all cooldowns "early and often". Don't save them for a rainy day, but make sure to have something up for expected damage spikes. It makes a lot more difference than a lot of tanks seem to realize, and can be done much more cleverly than simply clicking X when there's heavy damage.
That, and watching your positioning so you don't go out of range or out of line of sight. Situational awareness in general, I guess. Picking up stray adds before they can do any damage. Interrupting casters. Keeping an eye on CC.
But regarding that last one, I can give you the thing I hate the most when tanks do:
Obsessively picking up any CCed adds the second it breaks. If I had a cookie for every time a well-meaning tank managed to DoT a CC target just because it was loose for a second, I'd be rather sick of cookies by now. Don't immediately assume that no one else knows how to do their job.
BRC, the armor guy, if you didn't reset it, you needed to pop something at higher stacks. ZA, the bird boss, if the whole flock comes out at the same time, it needs some CDs, especially coupled with fire. ZG, Cat lady, depending on how many cats you take out. I kind of want to say others, but I can't remember any other of the bat here. I don't think there is any dedicated one-shot-ability you need a CD for though.
And keep them rolling, this is interesting stuff!
If the tank is nice (using emotes) and gentle, waiting for the healer and asking for readychecks. If the tank is smart and plays right, if he/she does everything in his/her power to save a person. If the tank is not whining about gear, whipes or time spent.
If all these things above are met, then I love a tank.
- tanks which have an eye on the healers mana (been quite usual in tbc/wotlk but nowadays many dont -.-)
- tanks which use selfheals (especially when theres heavy splash damage and the healer got to heal the whole group/raid - thus tanks that look at the groups health once in a while instead of their own only (if that))
- pala tanks that actually use Righteous Defense (which most dont)
- tanks which adjust their 'pulling' style according to the abilities of the group (like use CC when the healer/dps are struggeling or go 'all in' once they see the group can handle it)
Any tank that does not stand in fire.
Or a Holy zone
Or Impact zones
Or Zomg obvious zone of impending doom
O wait! No they can stand in holy zones, as long as it's mine!
except the obvious avoiding standing in stuff, turning mobs and so on. I love a tank who gives that little extra, like moving back into efflo so that the melee dps get covered and such.
A tank that keeps an eye on your mana every now and then..
a tank that cares <3
Wth has happened to the world?
It's perfectly possible to be nice without using emotes, and to be an !@# using them. They have virtually nothing to do with each other.
Tanks that pull what they're healer can handle. :)
A tank who pulls one pack at a time and let's 5 seconds pass by before every pull is in my eyes not for me. Sure it's safe, but I can easily handle more.
My favourite tanks are tanks who make me work, so go ahead and pull 2 packs, go ahead and pull a new pack after only one or two mobs of the last pack are alive.
I like saving lives, I like being pleased with myself and I like working my !@# off, knowing I did a good job. :)
If the cc'r knew his job je'd re cc before it broke. The tank is covering for others mistakes here.
The other scenario is that the cc breaks and said npc gets mad at a dps. The dps usual reaction is "omg omg omg maybe if I hit that npc really hard a few times he'll go and aggro the tank" *proceeeds to hit baddie really hard a few times*
I know why the tank picks up mobs coming out of cc asap )
4 Night Elf Druid
They didn't in Wrath of the Lich King. That's where the problems started; tanks never looked or listened because they simply didn't have too. For the most part, they were invincible and they absolutely knew it.
I like tanks that:
- are druids
- chain pull
- have brains
- take their job seriously
- have good reflexes
- trust the healer
- admit they failed and will leave the group/raid if needed
- don't click
- don't backpedal
- don't give 5 minutes long explanations why they failed + with bad english
- don't say "We will down it now" after every wipe they've caused
- don't go drama-mode and "you're so negative"-mode when I give them criticism
~ Completely opposite to our main tank atm.