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Nerf rogues? Atleast a bit please?
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Edited by Muphassa on 17/12/11 06:14 (UTC)
I cant do anything about rogues, Unless i go blood, Theyr insanely op with all their cd's. I can't do anything when im on my mage in bg's , silence, stunlock, massive damage and i have 3.8k resi. A rogue SOLO'D me and my arena partner. I have 3.8k resi she has 3.6k resi and we got solo'd. Just a bit. And trust me, im not the only one asking
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#1
17/12/2011
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It's generally agreed that in 1v1, rogues are the strongest melee class.
We are very CD reliant, catch a rogue with no/few CDs and he won't be as "OP" as you say.
How much resi does your mage have?
This sounds like a gear issue. Conversely, sub rogue damage is fairly dependent on gear.
Tell me about it. >_> As far as the rogue community is concerned, our class is fine. Blizzard agrees, did you see our patch notes? :P |
#2
17/12/2011
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I cant do anything about blood dk's, Unless I just vanish/afk, Theyr insanely op with all their cd's. I can't do anything when im on my rogue in bg's , insane aoe on dnd,lolgrip, massive damage more healing than a holy paladin A blood dk SOLO'D half the bg I was in. Just a bit. And trust me, im not the only one asking see what I did thar? ...go blood and roll your forehead to victory my friend |
#3
17/12/2011
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im sorry but unless your mage is Lolcane or fire then you have more than a fighting chance, same goes for your DK.
sounds to me like you just got outplayed. if a rogue can make you force your CDs without using his ofc your gonna be screwed. e.g. if you popped your trinket before he has even vanished or cloaked or whatever you done it wrong and were either massively outplayed or out geared. If it was BGs yeah sometimes you get really high end PvP'ers joining those for kicks or helping out a buddy, same for Arena when you see people getting boosted. But 3.8 and 3.6 Resi isn't alot I have 4.2K Resi and i see myself eating some pretty big numbers too. But its like the others said Rogues have there counters also. Hunters, Blood DKs, damned healers :P and whether you believe me or not ... Frost Mages. Rogues are really good counters to melee classes that are not tanks or classes that can spec healer. we go for the middle ground. It's the way of the assassin ;) |
#4
17/12/2011
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You should be able to beat a blood dk. Given it takes some time. But you shouldn't ever die to them. @OP, you can't kill a rogue in a 1v1. Thats our terrain and we are unbeaten there. You need a team against my team to make a chance. |
#5
17/12/2011
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move along nothing to see here
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#8
17/12/2011
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The problems with rogues are all the damage and control at the same time, and either should be nerfed. for example:
Elemental shaman have a lot of burst and great damage, alltough, the only control they got is hex with a long cd and a fairly long cast. Affliction locks, got great control with fears, howls and coils, alltough the "burst" is not very good as they depend on their dots to be able to kill (wich is a pain against rogues and their cloaks) My point is, most classes have a balance of either, and imo rougues shouldnt be an exeption. Also, to those of you saying rogues are the best classes at 1v1, I higly disagree, feral druids exeeds at this point, simply because of their bear-form immortality. |
#9
18/12/2011
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The problems with rogues are all the damage and control at the same time, and either should be nerfed. for example: You missed a point, Sustained damage. Locks have Control and Sustained. Shamans have Burst and Sustained. Rogues have Control and Burst. |
#10
18/12/2011
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The problems with rogues are all the damage and control at the same time, and either should be nerfed. for example: Again, our problem lies in CDs. We have high control as well as high damage... if we've got the cooldowns. Then we lack in both. |
#11
18/12/2011
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The problems with rogues are all the damage and control at the same time, and either should be nerfed. for example: You should make a post in that rogue thread over in arena & rbg forums. |
#12
18/12/2011
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rogues are not an exception. Locks get destroyed by rogues yeah. But other classes counter us, its just the way it is. Ask a war how he feels coming up against a frost mage. its the same scenario, to much control with burst. and rogues are considered the most balanced class in the game atm since we dont have sustained dmg unless were assassination, but then we just cant move at all and becomes pointless so we trade sustained dmg for control and burst periods. same as a lock can trade the sustained dmg of affliction for the burst of Demo if they choose and would still have the control with fear and coil and pet stuns etc. |
#13
18/12/2011
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Same as Blood DK are OP...
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#16
19/12/2011
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Edited by Pinsle on 19/12/11 16:59 (UTC)
The problems with rogues are all the damage and control at the same time, and either should be nerfed. for example: My mistake to miss that point out. But still, alot of cd's most other classes envy the subtley rogue, atleast along with prep. I still think it is far too powerful, and as far as I can tell, the only ones disagreeing are none other then the rogues themselves. I also disagree with the shamans having sustained damage. They do with flame shock and searing, but that's not a very lot + Their casts are fairly easy to interrupt for most classes, even when casting while running. |
#18
19/12/2011
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Rogues have to reliy on their cooldowns or they are screwed.
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#19
19/12/2011
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Sounds like a case of L2P issue. I never have problems with rogues either in BG's, Arenas, or 1v1.
Well, apart from a highly skillcapped rogue on 2.8k rating. But however. I beat 9/10 rogues. |
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19/12/2011
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