Topic SOPA/IP Blocking in America
Snør
Ragnaros
Snør
85 Human Rogue
935
America is doing !@#$ again. Its an thing where some websites are blocked and stuff.
More info about this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TotalHalibut/featured
http://americancensorship.org/

Edit: Awesome wrong section :/
Pokemonmasta
Kor'gall
Pokemonmasta
85 Human Paladin
8655
It won't pass. Nothing to be worried about.
Elynth
Jaedenar
Elynth
85 Blood Elf Priest
0
This has been a topic ever since what, 2004? Every time it's the same again "It's likely to pass". Just more alarmist nonsense you shouldn't buy into. This will never ever pass.
Sacrolash
Quel'Thalas
Sacrolash
85 Draenei Death Knight
7185
18/12/2011 12:21Posted by Pokemonmasta
It won't pass. Nothing to be worried about.

This. It's like trying to replace a broken window by getting a new house. Sure, you've fixed the window, but you've also changed everything else in the process. Ergo, it's an unnecessary implementation to a smaller problem.
Saber
Ravencrest
Saber
85 Troll Priest
0
18/12/2011 12:21Posted by Pokemonmasta
It won't pass. Nothing to be worried about.


I hope your rigth but, but just so you also know. Activision Blizzard is suppoting the passing of this bill. Think of that next time you pay them money.
Pokemonmasta
Kor'gall
Pokemonmasta
85 Human Paladin
8655
18/12/2011 15:41Posted by Saber
It won't pass. Nothing to be worried about.


I hope your rigth but, but just so you also know. Activision Blizzard is suppoting the passing of this bill. Think of that next time you pay them money.


I believe that was a misunderstanding. It was EA supporting it, not ActiBlizz.
Iluvcritters
Kul Tiras
Iluvcritters
85 Night Elf Hunter
8835
Okay so Blizzard Activision uses this bill. RIGHT! How many references to pop culture in THIS game could be classed as "copyright infringement" under this bill. Because this bill could shut down ANYTHING using other people's material. For a matter of urgency I copied the list of references here:

24, 300, A Christmas Story, Area 51, Airplane!, Aliens, American Pie, Apocalypse Now, Army of Darkness, Audioslave, Austin Powers, Avenged Sevenfold, Babylon 5, Clash of the Titans, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Conan the Barbarian, CSI Miami, Cruel Intentions, Deadliest Catch, Dirty Harry, Doctor Who, Doom, Dr Quinn Medicine Woman, Duke Nukem 3D, Fight Club, Final Fantasy VII, Finding Nemo, Firefly, Highlander, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, House, Hägar the Horrible, I, Robot, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, Lady Gaga, Lost, MacGyver, Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, Masters of the Universe, Men in Black, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Mortal Kombat, Parasite Eve, Peter Pan, Pinocchio, Pirates of the Caribbean series, Plants vs. Zombies, Pokémon, Portal, Pulp Fiction, RoboCop, Russell Brower, Scarface, Sesame Street, South Park, Star Fox 64, Stargate SG-1, Starship Troopers, Star Trek, Star Wars, Street Fighter, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, The A-Team, The Big Lebowski, The Black Hole, The Dark Crystal, The Day The Earth Stood Still, The Exorcist, The Facts of Life, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The Legend of Zelda, The Lord of the Rings, The Matrix, The Nightmare Before Christmas, The Princess Bride, The Prisoner, The Shadow, The Silence of the Lambs, The 6 Million Dollar Man, The Sixth Sense, The Terminator, Thumb Wars, ThunderCats, Top Gun, Total Recall, Top Chef, Transformers, Troy, Wayne's World, Xanadu, Xena: Warrior Princes, X-Files, X-Men.........

This is maybe a quarter of the places of reference that THIS GAME uses as reference for quests, people, places, items, events, speech. A FULL list for references can be found at: http://www.wowpedia.org/List_of_pop_culture_references_in_Warcraft

If it ever were true that Blizzard supported this bill the game we play would be a hot bed of the game being shut down because of the way SOPA is worded:
"To promote prosperity, creativity, entrepreneurship, and innovation by combating the theft of U.S. property, and for other purposes." —H.R. 3261
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

The big question that would be asked of the company if the suggestion it supports this bill is WHY it uses all the pop culture references in the game while supporting something to "combat the theft of US property".

If you do listen to all of TotalBiscuit's commentary about this he's right in one way. It DOES affects us if this goes through even if Blizzard is not supporting it. It means such sites as wowpedia could be shut down down because they use intellectual property (text and pictures from this game), people could be banned from Youtube for making videos based on this game, no more fan-based blogs (all infringement under this bill). From above referenced webpage:
"The bill would allow the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as copyright holders, to seek court orders against websites accused of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement."

The US Department of Justice can just say that your video you made by capturing footage from this game was a violation and therefore order Youtube to remove your item and ban you and what next? You getting deported to the USA for this action and put in prison there even if you're not a US citizen.

Not sure how many of you know the movie 1984. If you can get it somehow, just watch it for the message it portrays. Simply put this movie is all about what knowledge you can and cannot know, what stuff you can and cannot read, and who you can or cannot talk with. Well, very simply put. But I see some disturbing similarity to how "media" is portrayed in this movie and how "media" is going to be controlled via this and similar bills. And this bill effects us all even if you're not in the USA. Youtube IS based in the USA for example.

I run a business doing designing in real life and this bill worries me. I got a video on Youtube as a visual catalogue of my designs and what would happen if the US Department of Justice decides to question if I really designed the designs I did. Would I, as a designer, be facing a lengthy court battle then?

Both for users of the internet and content producers this bill is BAD! I am sure that the idea is good as they seem to want to stop piracy of intellectual property. But then when you step onto the realm of creative freedom you do overstep the marks. As my list at the top shows, BLIZZARD ITSELF is doing creative freedom. As a designer myself I do creative freedom. Every blogger and machinima producer is doing creative freedom. THAT is why we with 10 million voices should OPPOSE this bill and tell Blizzard THAT is what we demand!!!!!
Khalilah
Stormreaver
Khalilah
74 Draenei Paladin
0
Pfft. The americans are always so high and mighty:
"We are free"
"We are better than you"
"We can do whatever we want"
"Europe sucks"

And now they are asking us to help. The irony.

Not to mention they have got some nerve asking us for anything. They completely refuse to help the EU zone with the financial crisis, which I might add, was caused by them. Typical American stupidity, if the Euro fails, the next thing to fall into a million pieces shall be the American economy.
Berna
Darkmoon Faire
Berna
85 Worgen Druid
10955
There is no such thing as "the Americans". "The Americans" didn't cause the crisis; only some of them (their government, banks etc.) did.
Shingui
Hellfire
Shingui
85 Human Paladin
5640
it seems american hypocrisy is back with a vengeance.
Subterranean
Bladefist
Subterranean
85 Human Warrior
11905
Time to boycott EA games. They don't publish anything ground breaking anyway...
Amberis
Kul Tiras
Amberis
85 Blood Elf Warlock
0
Will never pass.....all of the 'pop culture' references used in the game and others are effectively advertising the movie, song etc. You yourself in your lengthy mail mentioned a number of movies that i myself thought, oh yeah might go and watch that again...This so called bill has been thrown around since 2004, and will never be passed.
Fenrel
Argent Dawn
Fenrel
85 Worgen Rogue
0
http://theoatmeal.com/

This concludes my broadcast.
Niliana
Khadgar
Niliana
85 Blood Elf Hunter
7100
Pfft. The americans are always so high and mighty:
"We are free"
"We are better than you"
"We can do whatever we want"
"Europe sucks"

And now they are asking us to help. The irony.

Not to mention they have got some nerve asking us for anything. They completely refuse to help the EU zone with the financial crisis, which I might add, was caused by them. Typical American stupidity, if the Euro fails, the next thing to fall into a million pieces shall be the American economy.


Only they're not asking for help, they're asking us to pay attention to what the world would be with this bill passed. If this bill passes, it affects the entire world.

As an American living in the UK, I do take offense to your ignorance on how Americans act though. :(
Shantotto
Ghostlands
Shantotto
85 Gnome Priest
5385
While I don't support the bill, the amount of misinformation about both of them is astounding.
Juliana
Bronze Dragonflight
Juliana
85 Human Mage
6520
Pfft. The americans are always so high and mighty:
"We are free"
"We are better than you"
"We can do whatever we want"
"Europe sucks"

And now they are asking us to help. The irony.

Not to mention they have got some nerve asking us for anything. They completely refuse to help the EU zone with the financial crisis, which I might add, was caused by them. Typical American stupidity, if the Euro fails, the next thing to fall into a million pieces shall be the American economy.


/signed
Zalijuba
Argent Dawn
Zalijuba
85 Troll Shaman
4950
I laugh in the Americans faces, I'm not helping them out I barely even go on American websites anyhow...so Ha ha America!
Krisandra
Quel'Thalas
Krisandra
85 Draenei Mage
9300
18/01/2012 14:15Posted by Zalijuba
I laugh in the Americans faces, I'm not helping them out I barely even go on American websites anyhow...so Ha ha America!

That moment where you realise Google is an American website much like the majority of all websites on the internet.
Faylanna
Eonar
Faylanna
85 Draenei Shaman
5085
There are already several posts on this created in the last few hours/days why necro a month old thread when you had nothing to add?
Habberdasher
Wildhammer
Habberdasher
85 Human Mage
8145
This is both new and intersting.

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