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Im gonna replace it with Specimen Slicer hc for sho, crap sword is crap, even normal axe I do better dps with.

Funny thing is that it proced 3 times on arms war in single 3 min arena game and mine procs like once in 2 games...

Been paying attention to the tentacle dmg lately (mostly in LFR/BH) and it seems it does a consistent 7-9% of my overall dmg on every single boss. I know this isn't a real comprehensive test but...

It seems the proc isn't nearly as RNG as I once thought. :P

Its strange that a tenticle wont proc of judgments, yet ive had my bone link fetish proc loads of judgement... strange saying they both say 'chance on melee'.....

I'm getting my PvP wep on Wednesday, the sword isn't worth getting unless u get it from yc dragon soul... Then its worth it, unless its that, PvP Sep is defo better

Yeah the proc is extremely bad for rets now, but still it's the best weapon to use.

lfr gurth > axe from yor > nor gurth > hc axe > hc gurth.

(off topic: gurth is stupid OP in pvp for warriors, non-skill warriors can global ppl if they get procs)

I agree. The difference between a warrior procs and a paladin proc is really severe. On average mine does between 1-3% on a boss fight, while warriors usually lies somewhere between 5% and a whooping 11%.

Doesn't it proc off judgement? I judged a bug in org and one procced.

Well i swear it did.... :/

I have noticed a big drop in the proc rate, for what its worth I also just did a strat clear and only saw the tentacle twice. I know its not exactly a great test but was picking up big packs and using divine storm and sadly rarely got to see the tentacles.

Will have to look more in RF and 10M normal but looks to me like the proc rate might just need a little bit of a bump on rets as in a battleground today was seeing rather alot of DKs and Warriors ones, yet none of mine.

Agreed. They need to fix this a little.

07/05/2012 10:25Posted by Dxan

I agree. The difference between a warrior procs and a paladin proc is really severe. On average mine does between 1-3% on a boss fight, while warriors usually lies somewhere between 5% and a whooping 11%.

That more than anything frustrates me. Now imagine if both classes use it in the arena. In can decide extra switches... rather irritating..

They should just plain out ban gurth in pvp or arena. I've been killed on my holy pally in 2s in a throwdown where a warrior procced 2 tentacles. I died in 4 seconds from 90%ish hp. That is 0 skill and 100% rng skill-less kill.

In 3s it's even worse. I was doing games to cap at 2k rating we met this tsg. We killed them once extremely easy because they are bad, then the next time both their gurths proc and they global my dps. 0 skill, those were 1600-1700 players who get 300-400 rating free because of their weapons. They get procs, they win, they don't they lose.

Same for caster legendary, rogues legendary to a lesser degree, vial of shadows, cunning of the cruel and bone-link fetish. 0 skill all rng with potentional to global something.

PvP and arena aside (which is irritating enough what with the advantage other melees have over us), it still affects PvE dps with this blade.

That reason alone is why i'm surprised they haven't really addressed it yet.

It's baffling they haven't checked the numbers.

I played with normal gurth for about...3 months? The weapon proc would never be more than 2% of my total damage on any fight in DS, often being 0%.

Personally, I feel BiS weapon is heroic experimental slicer, failing that, get the heroic warmaster mace.

13/01/2012 04:24Posted by Mazken

to atleast bring us on par with the other classes? Suffice it to say that Unholy DK's mastery benefits the Mind Flay yet that hasn't been looked at?

It barely procs for me aswell (Normal that is). I will be getting my hands on the heroic one soon because my new guild is 8/8HC, (So excited to rape with the heroic version)

But, this sword seriously needs a buff. The Polearm procs consistently.

Also, you're a ret paladin, overpowered dps as it is.

11/05/2012 16:11Posted by Maixy

Also, you're a ret paladin, overpowered dps as it is.

This made me lol.
Please clear the line of rogues, mages, warriors, and DKs before you call paladin's dps OP.

to atleast bring us on par with the other classes? Suffice it to say that Unholy DK's mastery benefits the Mind Flay yet that hasn't been looked at?

It barely procs for me aswell (Normal that is). I will be getting my hands on the heroic one soon because my new guild is 8/8HC, (So excited to rape with the heroic version)

But, this sword seriously needs a buff. The Polearm procs consistently.

Also, you're a ret paladin, overpowered dps as it is.

LAWL

Priceless coming from a DK, the most OP class in wow. Even our DK tank is normally top on trash in DS doing stupid dps as blood. Frost is just OP as well, I have a DK myself.

I cannot speak for unholy but ive seen some stupid numbers from them as well in raids.

I do agree with what has been said, ive done multiple heroics on my pally and my guardian of ancient kings has always done more damage and thats got a ******* 5 minute cooldown and I save it for bosses.

I currently use Ataraxis, Cudgel of the Warmaster (normal) and was wondering whether the normal version of Gurth is even worth entertaining? Or should i just stick it out and wait for heroic specimen slicer to drop, although there is alot more competition for that :P Asking as there is a high probability that i will get to see this weapon in the near future (when im not healing the fight on my priest). And with what has been said in this post, it sounds like its not even worth the landslide enchant you would place on it..

Gurth(N) is better than Ataraxis, however if you can get HC Slicer over normal Gurthalak I'd definitely do that.