My top 10 reasons to quit wow

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85 Blood Elf Paladin
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And before someone says that "I don't care if you quit", well I don't care about your caring. That is not why I write this

Anyway, not in any specific order:

1. Lack of learning curve
This game could use some at least moderately challenging content that you have to go through while leveling (some (but not all) of it should be required to be done solo without help of others) that would be designed to teach players how to use all the abilities of their class to it's full benefit. Other games are at least somewhat better in this.

And the game even in some cases seems to be trying to teach players to do things in the wrong way, like dungeon journal recommending strength gear for hunters. And, yes, I know the technical reason why it does this, but why even have a feature that shows class specific loot if it does not actually filter out items that are not meant for the class. Just make it show only all the loot or make the class filter work right.

2. Stupid loot system
Not just in raid finder, but in 5-man dungeons too. And don't tell me they are going to fix it in future. There are things that should have been fixed years ago. Crossrealm dungeon finder would have needed a better loot system. Not even going to MS vs OS debate, even if Blizzard wanted MS and OS needers have equal chance to win, why are people still able to need roll items that not good for their class in any spec? They should have fixed this 2 years ago, not in a distant future from now.

3. Stupid item level system
Why is the requirement to enter heroic dungeons and raids based solely on item level and not on how much useful stats you have? I'm don't even want to debate about pvp gear here. Just saying: A warrior can use intellect/spirit cloth to pass the item level checkup. Epic fail Blizzard. Why even have item level checkup if you can pass it with something that is worse than some low item level gear?

4. Lack of content in Cataclysm
When Cataclysm was first announced, I wondered why would they only rise level cap by 5 instead of 10 like in past 2 expansions, but when they told that this was because Cataclysm would focus more on end game content, I first thought this will be awesome. I mean, who cares about leveling, when majority of our time will be spent on doing something at max level. Now what did we actually get. In all raids combined the previous expansions both had almost twice as many raid boss encounters as Cataclysm.
More end game content = half as much end game content???
People are now even debating if raid lockouts should reset twice in a week. How about giving us those 2 additional raids that Cataclysm was supposed to have, but were never created, instead of making people run same raid twice a week.

5. Stupid US and EU separation
Mostly because Blizzard seems to be less interested in what EU players have to say

6. The game should require at least some effort for rewards
If you can stand afk the whole time and still get yourself some nice loot, like you can now in LFR, something is wrong. Now I don't want any performance based loot system or such that would simply reward the highest dps, as this would cause people just to ignore all tactics in a desperate attempt to top the dps meters and create all sorts of other problems, but some kind of activity check that would at least make sure that people who are completely afk, will not be able to benefit, would be nice.

7. I get it that you want to make the game more casual friendly, but you're doing it wrong.
First of all what is a casual anyway? People who lack the skill, time or interest to do normal raids, seem to be all put in the same category and called casuals. My problem is that these are not one homogeneous group but 3 completely different groups. People who lack skill, should be helped to learn to play. People who have skill, but are restricted by time can handle content that is aimed for "casuals" but still takes some skill to complete.

8. Bad dungeons
Especially End Time and Hour of Twilight, they just suck.

9. Raid finder takes away some of the enjoyment of normal raids
Now, I was not perhaps in the best guilds in my time. This meant that we did not complete normal mode in 1 week and then progress hardmodes, but instead in most cases, we did take several weeks to progress through normal modes. But I kind of liked this. Each new boss defeated would let me see some new content. Now with the raid finder, I have already seen the content, so the enjoyment is gone.

10. Blizzards policy in many things seems to not only allow, but to actually actively encourage bad behavior, making grouping with others often an unpleasant experience.
I'm not even going to give examples. If you don't know what I'm talking about, go read the 'raids and dungeons' -forums.
Edited by Eternalsun on 10/01/2012 18:47 GMT
10/01/2012 18:46Posted by Eternalsun
Stupid item level system

It puts on a base on gear, anything after that is player skill, and it might be hard for blizz to measure that, unless they had their own form of recount.
- CS
85 Draenei Paladin
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Why write this here? Write it in the "I quit" box...
90 Blood Elf Priest
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Some very valid points that should (but will not) be adressed /sigh
- CS
85 Draenei Paladin
5925
10/01/2012 18:51Posted by Eternalsun
Why write this here? Write it in the "I quit" box...


Because I like to see what happens when I write it here


Easy - you start a flame war, people argue, abuse is given, thread is locked by the CMs. :)
Bye bye!
85 Blood Elf Paladin
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At least in that case it did create some form of discussion.
85 Gnome Rogue
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seen you post around, you seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder

good riddance

ps, see you in a month or two
90 Human Paladin
12925
I barely read thru everything, i just skimmed thru it but i get your point, now i do not understand what the hell your talking about, and you arnt even putting out any sort of proof whatsoever. Your oppinions do not matter, proof matter but your oppinions who gives a damn? I do cuz i like to throw shiet back at stupid players like you :D

Now we start with nr 1, you wrote bla bla bad stuffs about levling, then if i go further down, you say you don't care about leveling, now i dont get the logic, first you QQ on lvling is bad content, then further down you say you don't care because they were focusing on end content. So you write "who cares about leveling?" Ye... makes really really much sense. Then you write that they don't focus on EU, proof plox or its not true. And saying "oh they only add stuffs US ppls say not EU ppls" well maybe the US peoples gives the ideas blizzard wants or we just plainly suck at giving out ideas or they just dont like our ideas. hmm???

Then saying "hour of twilight and end time sucks" whyy do they suck? What is so sucky about them?

And why don't you come back saying this new content gives out rewards for no efforts when you havn't even killed more than 2 bosses in DS normal, maybe you should try heroic if you think ur so badass and dont want loot so simply.

DS LFR was to show peoples end game and still give out some loot, if you don't like it then don't play it, then it's obviously not pointed towards you and i doubt YOU can talk for every casual and explain WHO THEY ARE, when ur not one. Thats like i would be a Christian and id tell Buddhist what they are suppose to believe in.

They want you to make friends and be social and meet other peoples you'd never meet without LFR/LFD, so don't think blizzard intended to you to meet the angry and troll peoples. Then u dont know what they added them for and you CLEARLY havn't understood at all and your just throwing out trash.

Id throw this topic to the dumpster because you lack in proof,constructive text or comments or reason why something is bad, you try to explain things you don't know about, you expect us to know a bunch of stuffs and you have no idea what ur talking about, you just throw out a bunch of bla bla bla and say "it's the truth" when it clearly aint. See ya and god this was fun writing ^^
Edited by Confiance on 10/01/2012 19:10 GMT
And before someone says that "I don't care if you quit", well I don't care about your caring. That is not why I write this

Anyway, not in any specific order:

1. Lack of learning curve
This <SNIP> ' -forums.


But with a game sooooo bad you are still playing? It can't be that bad then!
And before someone says that "I don't care if you quit", well I don't care about your caring. That is not why I write this

Anyway, not in any specific order:

1. Lack of learning curve
This <SNIP> ' -forums.


But with a game sooooo bad you are still playing? It can't be that bad then!


H'es not, that's the point.
85 Blood Elf Paladin
0
It's actually funny how people get so upset when someone says that there is something wrong with the game.

Anyway

10/01/2012 19:09Posted by Confiance
and you arnt even putting out any sort of proof whatsoever. Your oppinions do not matter, proof matter but your oppinions who gives a damn

What proof? I don't need to prove anything to YOU to justify it, if I quit.

10/01/2012 19:09Posted by Confiance
Now we start with nr 1, you wrote bla bla bad stuffs about levling, then if i go further down, you say you don't care about leveling, now i dont get the logic,
Now you're really good at (deliberately) missing the point and trying to create a contradiction on something where one does not exist.

1 is talking about new players being able to level up from 1 to 85 without learning anything useful about how to get good at playing this game.

The other part you're referring to is, as a side note, talking about people who already have had multiple level 80s for ages suddenly leveling from 80 to 85 when new expansion comes out. Not really talking about same thing at all.



10/01/2012 19:09Posted by Confiance
Then saying "hour of twilight and end time sucks" whyy do they suck? What is so sucky about them?

While I could write (if asked to) really long essay stating in detail what is wrong in them, I'm not about to do it in a rather long post that has other things it needs to say too.




But with a game sooooo bad you are still playing?

Do I really need to explain why this is stupid question?

How about you go back and just read the title

61 Gnome Mage
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Yeah bye.
90 Undead Mage
16465
10/01/2012 18:46Posted by Eternalsun
well I don't care about your caring


ok
90 Night Elf Druid
5905
You could have turned this into 10 things blizzard could do to improve the game, that would have made it sound allot more constrictive and less like a flame thread, which im my opinion would make people take it more seriously, rather than just thinking 'oh another hater..'.
10 Human Hunter
20
well when i checked your reasons...

I imagine this:

You joined LFR, drooled over a few items, lost a roll /exit game.
90 Human Paladin
13565
10/01/2012 19:09Posted by Confiance
I barely read thru everything, i just skimmed thru it but i get your point, now i do not understand what the hell your talking about, and you arnt even putting out any sort of proof whatsoever. Your oppinions do not matter, proof matter but your oppinions who gives a damn? I do cuz i like to throw shiet back at stupid players like you :D

You didn't bother to read through the OP's wall of text, but felt it was a good idéa to make a wall of text on your own? At least OP spelled correctly and used appropriate grammar.



As for the thread, NOT AGAIN.
80 Blood Elf Mage
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1. You didn't have to use raid finder.. now GTFO
85 Blood Elf Priest
1630
See you at Panda launch!
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